Ellen ************
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@Brandon ***********
the visas they hold are both exp Aug 2025. They’ve already received it?
Ellen *************
@Brandon ***********
a work extension? Is that the 90 day check in? See? As I read on in your comment, do you see how the school has just BSd?

They aren’t bothered to ever return to Thailand tbh. Hired into a proper school and other countries are near to visit on holiday- they won’t be bothering to fly to Thailand for any reason.
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@Brandon ***********
I wrote a response to this and it disappeared. They are both carrying visas that are good until August 2025. Supposedly the school will cancel the work permit December 20. The 90 day check in will be done Nov 29, I think, right around then…

I highly doubt they will go through the trouble to cancel it. Let’s say they do…there is a seven day grace period which gets to the 27th. Again, I cannot imagine these people lifting a finger to do anything that would require them effort or any penny.

They have already said it would be canceled November 20, now they are ‘being very gracious’ according to them… She hasn’t asked for any assistance or ‘favors’ they just announced their kindness and said they will be nice and extend it to Dec 20.

That tells me that they aren’t going to cancel it at all. However let’s just say they do. So now we are on the morning of the 28th and the grace period is over.

A few days later they will arrive at the airport with tickets, 2 people 2 suitcases, with visas til 2025. They will arrive early with the appropriate amount for a fee.

If they are stopped- AUS teacher and child heading out at holiday break time… they will pay the fee- 3000 or less and be on their way.

Unless a police checkpoint in the street has some electronic access to what will likely not be immediately updated files in that small window of time… and since they will not be out much during that time, but have groceries delivered… what need is there to pay to haul a kid in and out and god forbid have any trouble

re entering and all their stuff is in country and they are outside and they have a ticket departing from BKK Jan 1… (also the school acted exasperated and said don’t go in and out, it would complicate things for them and be an inconvenience, so don’t enjoy this time off)

Staying seems the best and least stressful course of action. I know this is so convoluted. It’s hard to articulate but you know how some schools can be.

It is a gamble but a safer and less stressful and less costly one than the alternative. They told her not to leave or she would be inconveniencing them and what if they don’t give her her last pay she can’t really come out of pocket for a visa run. It’s a crapshoot, but the best course of action I think.
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@Brandon ***********
they won’t have any interactions with police - 👍🏼 a lot more info has come in-
Ellen *************
@David *******
yeah it’s likely they won’t even be stopped at all, but they aren’t coming back. It’s not a gamble I would worry about -

3 or 4 days 🤷🏻‍♀️
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@David *******
it’s cheaper to pay an overstay fine for three or four days than it is to do a visa run.
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@John *********
exactly. The employer is saying they are going to cancel it and then they said oh they’ll be nice and extend it another month. They aren’t going to cancel it. It costs them time and money to do so and they have shown that they don’t do much that requires effort from them. I wrote an explanation in the comment above. Will be a 3-4 day overstay only if they cancel it when they say they will. There’s a 7 day grace period after that and then they will be leaving anyway 3 or 4 days later. Forget a visa run they will just be prepared to pay overstay of 3 or 4 days at the airport. 
Ellen *************
@Wayne ********
the school is saying a lot of half truths and scare tactics. Really muddying the waters. With all information in now, tbh it’s best they just sit until the ‘new date they will cancel her WP’ (because they’re so nice 🙄- saying they will extend the WP that extra month 😂)

There’s a 7 day grace period after the date school said it will be canceled-and max 4 days after that when they would be leaving to a proper job on 1 or 2 January.

They will still have that visa that says Aug 2025 and many teachers will be coming and going for winter break at that time. Seems possible they will just fly right out… no need for a visa run. They will carry the overstay fees for the 3 or 4 days and arrive early at the airport in case there’s any sort of situation.

SEA is just garbage for 80% of teachers, it’s just not right.

At the end of the day they grabbed something not knowing any better because they really needed to leave ‘home’ and now have already secured a true legit job and elsewhere.
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@Brandon ***********
to piggyback on this;

If it’s a tot and a mom leaving, would they charge both upon exit?

And if you’re on a WP (is it called Non O?) the school says they are cancelling it 🙄

and child is on ed visa,

you can’t get an extension on that work permit, right? So isn’t it cheaper and easier if you need to stay 34 days more to just stay and pay fines on exit instead of doing a visa run and coming back as a tourist for 34 days?
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@Jet *******
why are you talking to me? An OP asked a question and everyone chucked out their experience and you decided to pounce on the comment that wasn’t even directed at you, to try to disprove the validity of his suggestion and you’re still doing it 😂

All this upset because someone has a visa that works for them and mentioned it to someone beginning their research.

I’m embarrassed for you tbh, it’s top notch goofy.