@Brittaney ***********

the proof of cash rarely gets asked, but it can get asked. . . it depends on your appearnce and the mood of the officer you are standing in front of

@Salma *******

What’s it all about?

The TM30 and its underlying laws are about the obligation of a landlord (or house master, possessor, manager) to report the stay of any foreigner (non-Thai national) in his/her property. All foreigners staying in Thailand and their hosts should be very well aware of this.

The law with regard to the TM30 and the obligation to report a foreigner’s stay have been in place for a long time, but the government has started to enforce it more strictly lately, and changed some of the procedures with regards to your 90-days reporting and extension of visa.

IF YOU’RE RENTING, CHECK IF YOUR LANDLORD HAS REPORTED YOUR STAY

What is the purpose of the (new) regulations?

Basically, with the TM30 form, the government aims to know exactly where each foreigner is staying all the time. Every host, no matter Thai or foreigner, has the obligation to report the stay of a foreigner within 24 hours.

If the reporting is not done within the 24 hours period immigration can fine the landlord if just one day late or when some documents are not complete.

Who should act?

Officially and practically, the responsibility to report the stay of a foreigner rests with the host: the landlord of a property, the hotel or the service apartment. Untimely reporting of a foreigner can be penalized.

However, if you are the guest or tenant, you can’t ignore TM30 either: Most of the time the registration is needed when going to the Immigration office for a service, such as the 90-day reporting and sometimes for stay permit extensions.

It still depends on the officer in charge that you’re facing, but at such moment that you may find out that your landlord did not report your stay and you will have to explain where you stayed all that time. There is also a risk that you as a tenant (or guest) may be fined instead of the landlord.

How to report?

As a foreigner staying in Thailand, you should prepare:

(a) a copy of your passport (photo page)

(b) a copy of the visa page in your passport

(c) a copy of the departure card

The landlord should prepare:

(a) a copy of the title deed of the property

(b) a copy of the rental contract

(c) a copy of the Landlord ID card

The landlord can outsource the reporting to somebody else, (the foreigner for example) a letter (Power Of Attorney) is then required to authorize this person to do the reporting (TM30) on behalf of landlord with stamps from the tax office attached on this letter. Power Of Attorney letter to authorize another person performing the address registration.

Official stamps from the tax authority office that needs to be affixed to letter from landlord giving authority to another person. The tax stamps can be bought at the Revenue Offices

Then, your landlord or property manager or yourself should report in either of these ways:

1. Most common is to go to the Immigration Office and fill out the TM30 form there. (if there isn’t an immigration office in your area, you have to report to the Police Office.)

2. The landlord can also register online on (but the Landlord needs to setup an online account with immigration first in able to perform the online address registration)

After registration, the landlord (or foreigner) will get a stamped return slip that the tenant (guest) should put in his passport and use it when going to Immigration for a service.

For long term residents on long term visa or extensions: The address registration has to be done at your first entry into Thailand or when moving permanently to a new address.

The official law is that for tourist without long term visas or extensions, even without leaving the country (so with the same departure card number), a foreigner still has to be reported every time that he/she changes to a new place.

The owner of that place has to report the foreigner, even if it’s just for 1 day.

So if you’re making a trip out in the countryside for the weekend and you’re staying in a guesthouse there, your stay for that weekend will be reported, and once you return to your primary place, you’ve got to be reported again.

There are some Immigration Offices that will skip this rule that you have to report again, when you return to the same place as before.

You need to ask your Immigration how they handle the rule. Only after you asked them, you will know what to do properly.

***If you own your own property (for example a condo), that does not acquit you of the obligation to report yourself.

***If you have a yellow house book (tabian baan) or co-own a house, this does not acquit you of the obligation to report yourself.

In principle, the prime responsibility of reporting a foreigner rests with the property owner, not with the tenant or traveler or with the agent or property manager, but all could experience trouble when the papers are not in good order.

Each individual foreigner needs to be reported, not just the head of a family or one person in a group of travelers.

actually, you can enter any valid hotel adress in Thailand into the TDAC form. It does not get cross-checked. . . . . Just make sure your girlfriend registers you in the TM30 system under her home adress, within 24 hours of you arriving at her accomodation. Putting her adress into the TDAC form does NOT remove the duty to fill out a TM30

@Brittaney ***********

well, you should be fine if after 4 days abroad, you re-enter Thailand for a second time on a visa-exempt entry. If you have not maxxed out the first 60 days admitted stay with a 30 days extension, but exited Thailand before the first 60 days expired, you can expect to be regarded as being a "real" tourist at the border checkpoint. You could however be asked on your intentions, in which case you should make sure you have the "3 famous proofs", which are an onward travel proof out of Thailand within 60 days, 20,000 THB in cash or equivalent in another major currency, and proof of a booked accomodation for the first few nights

The intention for allowing a „dependent visa” was and still is, mainly based on the “dependent partner” not having to show his/her own financial proof.

However, many embassies have discontinued to issue “trailing spouse” or “dependent” Non-Imm-O visa to partner married to someone who holds a Non-Imm-O retirement visa or an Extension of Stay based on it.

You need to ask the Thai Embassy where you are applying, on how they do deal with it. And keep in mind – even if the Embassy issues the dependent visa. It is not guaranteed that Immigration accepts it for an application to a 12-months Extension of Stay. Immigration could still ask you to have two separate bank account with 800K Thai Baht on it from each of you

@Nav *******

and you still have not understood how to word things correctly. . . you still write nonsense like this: "said can apply one year visa after 2 month extension" . . . there is nothing such as a "one year visa". You still confuse a stay permit with a visa. After all the explaing I offered. Shame on you

@Nav *******

I said that depends on the Immigration officer. You will either be lucky or not. It is up to the individual discretion of the officer

@Ly *****

you got TWO months on top of the 90 days of a Non-Imm-O family visa? Well, maybe it got lost in translation that they actually stamped you a 60 days extension based on the family visit, and didn't allow you an extension of the Non-Imm-O Visa. Because it is not possible as the visa itself becomes invalid when you enter Thailand. So you technically cannot receive an "extension of my Non-O visa" 😂😂 How do you extend a visa that doesn't exist any more? By a Shaman or hypnotism service? Or do they hold a rain dance?

@Jan *****************

I guess they just say they don't issue the family visit extensions any more, to press applicants into paying tea money. If there really was a discontinuation, it would have been officially reported

@Nav *******

no, I don't think so. You cannot apply for the 1-year extension any more if you already are outisde of the initial 90 days. Maybe Immigration allows you to do it for a certain amount of tea money, that's between an offcial and you. Why not pay the 25,000 THB and receive the 1-year extension of stay ?