@Debbie **********

correct

@Darren ********

if you feel questions asked of any sort in relation to the group name are a waste of time perhaps you should find another group. Or maybe start your own group where the topic is to judge other people on their comments. This seems to be a favorite pastime for you. I think any topic could be found on Google and if everybody did that what would be the purpose of the group. But yet here you are

@Darren ********

the only person's time wasted was you wasting my time with your stupid comments. Obviously there was a number of responses to my question that were very helpful and informative.

@Frank *********

yep I thought so so I checked out your profile and confirmed it.

@Frank *********

so you're saying the only difference between the two forms is the number. Nothing more about the two forms and what they do which was the intent of the original question.

@Darren ********

it does not answer the question Darren all you did was reinforce the question I was asking in a different way. If I asked you the difference between Harley-Davidson and Honda I wonder if your answer would be similar to the one you gave to my question they're just different names. Nothing more. I think you get my point.

Thank you for your help in clarifying the two forms. I found all information in this stream very useful. Not sure about 17? though?

@Garrett **********

actually I found the added information about online TM 30 with permission of house owner to be very important as an added note to my original post. I did not know the difference between TM 30 and TM 47 thus showing my limited knowledge. Any and all information pertaining to these two forms is useful for my limited knowledge of immigration in Thailand. I also thank you for being the first post with very descriptive information on my original post. Have a great day