Simple question. What is the difference between a TM47 and a TM30
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The TM30 is a form that property owners in Thailand must file within 24 hours whenever a foreigner spends the night at their property, notifying the authorities of the foreigner's presence. In contrast, the TM47 is a 90-day report that foreign residents must submit to confirm their address to the immigration office every 90 consecutive days. The two forms serve different purposes in compliance with Thai immigration laws.
Look each up on immigration or Thai site tells you everything
Sue **********
Does anybody know how tenants could be fined if they don‘t register TM30 in time? I do mine myself, because I travel around so many times that my landlady asked me to do it. But sometimes after a short 2 days trip to another province I simply forget it.
the tenants can’t be fined, but the tenant needs the tm30 for a bunch of stuff. So if the owner doesn’t fill it out they look to the tenant to pay so things move forward.
so you're saying the only difference between the two forms is the number. Nothing more about the two forms and what they do which was the intent of the original question.
it does not answer the question Darren all you did was reinforce the question I was asking in a different way. If I asked you the difference between Harley-Davidson and Honda I wonder if your answer would be similar to the one you gave to my question they're just different names. Nothing more. I think you get my point.
I never said different names for the same thing. I said different names for forms used for different things. Google could have given an answer in 5 seconds and not wasted anyone's time but here we are.
if you feel questions asked of any sort in relation to the group name are a waste of time perhaps you should find another group. Or maybe start your own group where the topic is to judge other people on their comments. This seems to be a favorite pastime for you. I think any topic could be found on Google and if everybody did that what would be the purpose of the group. But yet here you are
the only person's time wasted was you wasting my time with your stupid comments. Obviously there was a number of responses to my question that were very helpful and informative.
but you didn't answer the op's question, you just said they are different, which is obvious as they are different numbers. He wants to know "what the difference is", so yes, you're a dick....
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Brandon ************
TM30 is filed by property owners any time a foreigner spends the night at their property. Legally must be filed within 24 hours of the foreigner arriving at the property. There are actually many countries that have a similar process (Korea, Japan, European countries), but those countries don't penalize the person for the property owner's failure to file this like Thailand does.
TM47 is a 90-day report. It is a foreigner's responsibility to report their location to the government every 90 consecutive days in Thailand.
TM47 is a 90-day report. It is a foreigner's responsibility to report their location to the government every 90 consecutive days in Thailand. Does this apply if you are on a retirement visa and leave Thailand before the 90 days has expired and then return. I was under the impression the clock starts over a fresh for another 90 days. I go back to UK regularly or for holidays to other neighbouring countries on a multi entry visa and not had any problems 🤷
the TM47 is not a "report of location". It only is the report that you are still staying inside Thailand. The only true "report of location" i.e. the report of you staying in an accomodation, is the TM30
Unfortunately, many room and hotel room owners don't fill out the TM30 form, even though they're required to. I experienced this firsthand this year, Brandon.
what’s important to note here is that if you live in Thailand, and go away and stay in a hotel, that hotel should file a TM30. when you return to your place of residence you then need to have another TM30 filed as your address is no longer the hotel.
You do not do 90 day reports on a Non-O entry stamp as that only gives you 90 days in Thailand then you either leave or extend. You get a TM30 on any entry stamp but will only be needed if you are going to use Immigration services for anything such as an extension.
actually I found the added information about online TM 30 with permission of house owner to be very important as an added note to my original post. I did not know the difference between TM 30 and TM 47 thus showing my limited knowledge. Any and all information pertaining to these two forms is useful for my limited knowledge of immigration in Thailand. I also thank you for being the first post with very descriptive information on my original post. Have a great day
you can only do it online by yourself, if the owner has already registered his premises in the TM30 system and given you the Login-ID and the password. As for registering, the number of the blue house-book is required, so I strongly doubt that YOU, as the tenant, can do anything before the house owner hasn't cleared the path for you