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What is the difference between TM47 and TM30 in Thailand?
Sep 3, 2025
8 months ago
Chris **********
ORIGINAL POSTERSimple question. What is the difference between a TM47 and a TM30
TLDR : Answer Summary
The TM30 is a form that property owners in Thailand must file within 24 hours whenever a foreigner spends the night at their property, notifying the authorities of the foreigner's presence. In contrast, the TM47 is a 90-day report that foreign residents must submit to confirm their address to the immigration office every 90 consecutive days. The two forms serve different purposes in compliance with Thai immigration laws.
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Dover **********
simple answer go to immigration
David *******
SIMPLE ANSWER
Look each up on immigration or Thai site tells you everything
Look each up on immigration or Thai site tells you everything
Sue **********
Does anybody know how tenants could be fined if they don‘t register TM30 in time? I do mine myself, because I travel around so many times that my landlady asked me to do it. But sometimes after a short 2 days trip to another province I simply forget it.
Graham ******
@Sue *********
you can do your TM30 a few days late, no problemDarren *********
@Sue *********
the tenants can’t be fined, but the tenant needs the tm30 for a bunch of stuff. So if the owner doesn’t fill it out they look to the tenant to pay so things move forward.Reply to
Darren *********
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Glenn *****
Both should be consolidated into one but won't be.
Ran *****
17
Michael *******
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Daniel ************
90
days and house registration
days and house registration
Ryan **********
If someone is staying at a friend’s house as a guest is the owner still required to file a TM 30 for their friend staying at their property
Brandon ************
@Ryan *********
legally yes it's required. If they're just staying for a short time before going somewhere else then realistically can be ignored.Reply to
Brandon ************
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Pete *******
TM30 = 24hr address notification
TM47 = 90 day address confirmation
TM47 = 90 day address confirmation
Frank **********
Two different numbered forms. Duh.
Chris **********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Frank *********
yep I thought so so I checked out your profile and confirmed it.Chris **********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Frank *********
so you're saying the only difference between the two forms is the number. Nothing more about the two forms and what they do which was the intent of the original question.Mark ********
@Frank *********
another 🔔🔚Reply to
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Darren *********
They are different forms for different things. Simple enough answer?
Chris **********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Darren ********
it does not answer the question Darren all you did was reinforce the question I was asking in a different way. If I asked you the difference between Harley-Davidson and Honda I wonder if your answer would be similar to the one you gave to my question they're just different names. Nothing more. I think you get my point.Darren *********
@Chris *********
I never said different names for the same thing. I said different names for forms used for different things. Google could have given an answer in 5 seconds and not wasted anyone's time but here we are.Chris **********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Darren ********
if you feel questions asked of any sort in relation to the group name are a waste of time perhaps you should find another group. Or maybe start your own group where the topic is to judge other people on their comments. This seems to be a favorite pastime for you. I think any topic could be found on Google and if everybody did that what would be the purpose of the group. But yet here you areChris **********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Darren ********
the only person's time wasted was you wasting my time with your stupid comments. Obviously there was a number of responses to my question that were very helpful and informative.Reply to
Chris **********
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Mark ********
Pete **********
@Darren ********
useless answerCraig *********
@Darren ********
whats the need for this comment?Darren *********
@Craig ********
very little need for your comment. Mine was a simple answer as he requested.Robert *******
@Darren ********
your board and in pattaya to put a sensible answer. You sould leave the group or get blockedCraig *********
@Darren ********
yeh but you knew what the question was really ...didnt you? you just decided to be a dick..didnt you?Darren *********
@Craig ********
at least I was answering the question what is your contribution?Lloyd *********
@Darren ********
but you didn't answer the op's question, you just said they are different, which is obvious as they are different numbers. He wants to know "what the difference is", so yes, you're a dick....Reply to
Lloyd *********
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Brandon ************
TM30 is filed by property owners any time a foreigner spends the night at their property. Legally must be filed within 24 hours of the foreigner arriving at the property. There are actually many countries that have a similar process (Korea, Japan, European countries), but those countries don't penalize the person for the property owner's failure to file this like Thailand does.
TM47 is a 90-day report. It is a foreigner's responsibility to report their location to the government every 90 consecutive days in Thailand.
TM47 is a 90-day report. It is a foreigner's responsibility to report their location to the government every 90 consecutive days in Thailand.
Tony *********
@Brandon ***********
TM47 is a 90-day report. It is a foreigner's responsibility to report their location to the government every 90 consecutive days in Thailand. Does this apply if you are on a retirement visa and leave Thailand before the 90 days has expired and then return. I was under the impression the clock starts over a fresh for another 90 days. I go back to UK regularly or for holidays to other neighbouring countries on a multi entry visa and not had any problems 🤷Graham ******
@Tony ********
Yes it's 90 consecutine days so leave before day 90 and it resets at day 1 when you returnAndreas *********
@Tony ********
the TM47 is not a "report of location". It only is the report that you are still staying inside Thailand. The only true "report of location" i.e. the report of you staying in an accomodation, is the TM30Reply to
Andreas *********
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Ray ********
@Brandon ***********
hi Brandon for TM30 if you're staying in a hotel do they have to file oneBrandon ************
@Ray *******
yes. Everyone who hosts a foreigner is legally required to file itRudi ***********
@Brandon ***********
Unfortunately, many room and hotel room owners don't fill out the TM30 form, even though they're required to. I experienced this firsthand this year, Brandon.Philip ********
@Rudi **********
what’s important to note here is that if you live in Thailand, and go away and stay in a hotel, that hotel should file a TM30. when you return to your place of residence you then need to have another TM30 filed as your address is no longer the hotel.Reply to
Philip ********
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Daphne *******
@Brandon ***********
could you please advise if foreign family (renting accommodation) must advise our stay with them, when we arrive on Dependant Visa (Non-Immigrant O)?Is the online TM30 available for that?
Graham ******
@Daphne ******
You do not do 90 day reports on a Non-O entry stamp as that only gives you 90 days in Thailand then you either leave or extend. You get a TM30 on any entry stamp but will only be needed if you are going to use Immigration services for anything such as an extension.Reinhard ********
@Graham *****
Never been asked for it.Only TM47.Reply to
Reinhard ********
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Brandon ************
@Daphne ******
if they're the property owner of where you are staying then yes, they would be the ones to do it. What type of visa you're on is irrelevant.Reply to
Brandon ************
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Paul *********
@Brandon ***********
if the property owner and tenant agree, the tenant can complete the online registration of the property and do the online TM30 on the owner's behalf.Garrett ***********
@Paul ********
Did you think your answer provided any benefit to the question? Do you really think you're smarter than Brandon?Chris **********
ORIGINAL POSTERThank you for your help in clarifying the two forms. I found all information in this stream very useful. Not sure about 17? though?
Chris **********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Garrett **********
actually I found the added information about online TM 30 with permission of house owner to be very important as an added note to my original post. I did not know the difference between TM 30 and TM 47 thus showing my limited knowledge. Any and all information pertaining to these two forms is useful for my limited knowledge of immigration in Thailand. I also thank you for being the first post with very descriptive information on my original post. Have a great dayMalcolm *****
@Garrett **********
what the 🙄Martin *******
@Malcolm ****
and he’s a moderator!!🤷♂️🤷♂️Mark ********
@Garrett **********
well it provided benefit to me!Tore *********
@Garrett **********
obviously added value yes. And is quite correct. Nobody said Brandon was wrong. Do you think your comment added any value?Wayne **********
@Garrett **********
so you can’t do it online?Paul *********
@Wayne *********
Yes...you can do it online.Andreas *********
@Paul ********
you can only do it online by yourself, if the owner has already registered his premises in the TM30 system and given you the Login-ID and the password. As for registering, the number of the blue house-book is required, so I strongly doubt that YOU, as the tenant, can do anything before the house owner hasn't cleared the path for youDonald **********
@Garrett **********
Rather harsh. I found the reply added to the information supplied by Brandon. Plenty of other inane comments here that could be picked up on.Mark ********
@Donald *********
they don't like being questioned on here, esp one moderator in particular.Donald **********
@Mark *******
hissy fits?Reply to
Donald **********
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