What are the best health insurance options for retirees in Thailand, especially for those over 65?

Jun 27, 2023
a year ago
Sharon *******
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I'm very disappointed today. I've been learning about the visa process for awhie but I joined recently and have been enjoying all the information that is posted. I would love to retire in Thailand but it's not to be. I've left it too late. Today I was told that it will cost me over $900US/mo to buy the insurance I need because of my age. I've had other similar quotes although that's the highest so far so I think it's time to accept the fact that I will just have to visit when I can but not actually move there.

So the lesson here is don't put off the things you want to do. If you do, you may find you've left it too late.
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A user expressed disappointment in the high cost of health insurance required for retirement in Thailand, which they found to be over $900/month due to their age. Other users provided advice on alternatives, such as applying for a Non-O visa, which does not necessarily require insurance. They discussed various insurance options, emphasizing the importance of shopping around for better deals. Users shared their own experiences and offered recommendations for insurance providers, stressing the necessity of maintaining financial reserves for medical emergencies.
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Geoff ********
True traveller insurance ( AXA) UK.. gave me better policy. Price than before covid...
Cheryl ******
My husband and I are applying for the LTRV and just submitted our application for insurance. Anyone have experience with this type of Visa?
London *****
You can get a 3-month Non O visa in London Thai Embassy (online). No insurance requirement. Once in Thailand open a bank account and send $800k from overseas and leave it there for at least 2 months. Then you can get 12 month extension each year. No insurane requirement.
London *****
yes tb 800k not usd. Funnily enough I prefer to follow the rules. The rules for retiremnt visa are either 800k in a Thai bank account or monthly receipts. I also suspect once you used an agent you are probably stuck using an agent. I'd prefer not to risk it.
Stephen *******************
@London ****
Many ways to get a legitimate 12 month visa without investing 800,000 Baht (NOT $800k as you suggested)into a Thai bank account for the rest of your life which will basically be untouchable if you wish to stay.

Ask around Bangkok / Pattaya / Phuket there are various options for just a one off 30,000 baht payment and hey presto you have a 12 month Visa Stamp from Immigration 😅
Brent *******
Find a woman working for the Thai government and marry her…you will be insured then.
Sharon *******
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@Brent ******
While I have no problem with same sex marriages, I think I've been married enough times in this lifetime.
Brent *******
@Sharon ******
my apologies! No offence intended. The health insurance is a major stumbling block. I didn’t even realize I was covered by my wife’s health plan until I was married. Nice surprise.
Sharon *******
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@Brent ******
No offense taken. I was going to add the appropriate smiley face to my comment but I couldn't find it on my new phone.
Brent *******
@Sharon ******
I wish you well. I’ve been back and forth between Canada and Thailand for 5 yrs. I have retired friends in southern Thailand and they love ❤️ it.
Mark ********
Thailand is also becoming more and more expensive due to westerners moving here, starting businesses, selling really expensive western products, and just changing the balance of everything here. I have read some have gone to Vietnam to retire due to cheaper costs. I always had an interest in Laos myself.
Pornrat ***********
@Mark *******
I am shocked!

Thailand is becoming expensive; therefore, some Westerners should consider leaving the Kingdom. Maybe Thai people should also leave en masse!

Or - here is a thought - to restore the balance, those Westerners who whinge should exit and/or stay away and let the Westerners & Thais who enjoy the Kingdom to remain.

Mind boggled.
Mark ********
@Pornrat **********
Yeah, I am American and I even don't like Americans. It's why I married a Thai woman. And she is the only reason I came to Thailand. But I see so many farangs who seem to come here just to party and destroy and have sex. They just see it as a cheap playground to gain more for themselves. That's the American mindset. Take whatever you can for yourself and see other's values as stupid. I think you should do whatever the locals do and respect their culture at all times when in a foreign country. I also wonder how any Thai people afford any of these western products. I don't even buy them because they cost double the amount here than they do in the west. It's absurd to me to move to another country for a better and simpler life and then try to change it more into where you came from. Buy from local Thai people and support them is what I do.
MJ *********
@Sharon ******
buy a Thailand Elite visa. No insurance required. Medical services are reasonable here.
Tony *******
No way, 900 month is insane
Kevin *******
Insurance is a rip off get the cheapest then cancel it !
Simon *******
Just get your insurance for your first year in then don’t renew it 👍🙏
Ken ******
the current required coverage is 3 million baht for mandatory health insurance, the premium got higher as you age, getting to be very expensive after 65 or so and usually no cover for pre existing illness, but the greatest worry is that the required coverage could be raised again sometime in future.

if you put great sum of money as alternative, i don'T know if acceptable, the worry is that the money got depreciated over time against the USD or other currency
Sharon *******
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Good morning everyone. Thanks for all the information you have shared. I have lots of new options to look into.
Daniel *******
@Sharon ******
First of all, DON’T get your visa in the States before you come. Come in on a stamped passport after having researched the requirements for a non-O “retirement” visa. Once here, you can set up whatever health care requirements you need without any health insurance requirements from immigration after you get your visa.
Ian ********
just keep enough money for a ticket back to blighty id you feel moby dick
Gary ********
You don't say your age or any underlying conditions you have that wouldn't be covered....but there are all kinds of policies available depending what you need.

It is also possible to retire here with no insurance....but obviously risky...many people do it.

You have received some good recommendations on here, so check thoroughly what you actually need....and what you would want....there will be a cheaper policy for you unless you are 97....😊
Bob ******
Bob ******
Ur over 50, right?. If so contact PDC Visa Plus either Phuket, Khonkaen or Udon Thani and they should be able to help you.
Christopher *************
Sharon talk to
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she eill help you with insurance
Willow *********
I pay 33,000 baht a year with AIA. In the USA I would pay that in 2 months and still have to pay a huge deductible. So I don’t think it’s too bad. I can go to any hospital, any time. Hell of a lot better than where I came from.
Ken ********
@Willow ********
yes the US health system is terrible
Tulip ********
No one seems to have a clue what ongoing cancer treatment costs. In Thailand for some serious but treatable cancers you are talking millions and millions of baht. If you live long enough you are likely to get cancer. If you can't afford it, don't come. If you want to die in 'paradise' on a budget, come by all means. But you are likely to die broke and early. Thailand is not for those on a very modest budget, unless you want to live like an ordinary Thai and take your chances with the public health system.
Alistair **********
@Tulip *******
yeah that's when you fly back "home" and get "free" treatment.
Tony *********
@Tulip *******
- this is an awful and pessimistic attitude.

Of course big Pharma costs but why worry about something that may not happen. All you need in reality is enough money saved to pay for the morphine on your way out!

Trying to fight cancer with cancer or should I say western drugs is pointless there are eastern alternatives and everything much cheaper. On top of that I agree with others if you are that old don't worry just go out having a blast 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Chris *********
You dont have to have insurance to retire in thailand, got heaps of mates all ages that live there and dont have insurance. But they keep a separate account of emergency money for if something goes wrong.
Chris *********
สตีฟ เตเต้ ICU can be up to 100k a day, so calculate that as worse case scenario and you willl be sweet 🙏🙏
Ken ********
@Chris ********
depends what visa your on or where you apply
Christopher ***********
@Chris ********
As a yardstick, it is estimated that such a safety net bank account needs to contain a minimum of three million Thai baht (85,000 USD).
Chris *********
@Christopher **********
thats a great number to keep in reserve, i am constantly seeing people over the last 21 years not prepared for the worst and it doesnt end well sadly
Christopher ***********
@Chris ********
Totally agree. So many living from day to day. They live in Thailand to avoid enormous heating bills and Council Tax. Being accustomed to free National Health Service at home they make no provision for medical expenses.
Fran *****
I’m skimming quickly as on road . I’m 72 and need to get insurance y Fri ( ya i know) but the bias and bs you go thru . Insurance suggestion s I’m sure will be appraring
Derek ************
Try WRLife insurance
Patrick ********
Just an idea have no insurance but put 2 million bht in thai bank account for any issues
Tulip ********
@Patrick *******
That's fine if you have reserves beyond that. But don't get married, don't have kids and don't support your Thai family. Not an easy thing watching family die because you they don't have the money and you do, unless you have a heart of stone. And if you are in a relationship budget for the Thai parents too. Her mum needs an op, you going to sit on your 2 mill and watch her die? And trust me, for lots of conditions in public hospitals, you don't have a chance.
Patrick ********
@Tulip *******
What the he'll are you on.. i never mentioned marriage, helping family some comments are tawdry..look this word up in a dictionary
Ann *******
I just plugged your stats (76 yo, BC resident) into the website I use to buy travel insurance for my mom, and there's a 6 month policy for as low as $136/month for $2 million evac/$50K medical/$5K deductible/$2,500 pre-existing (lowest coverage possible). Same price up to 79 yo. Costs additional $100/month for ages 80 - 89. No coverage 90+. I would personally recommend the 2M evac/100K medical/$500 deductible/$10k pre-existing for $250/month if it were my own mother. I think this is a good option to snowbird in Thailand for 6 months at a time. Let me know if you'd like me to send you the links and quotes. I've used this underwriter before, and they're very responsive to paying claims fully. I've been in Bali for the past few years and always start with a 6 month travel policy from the US, because coverage is more comprehensive and claims easier to process with travel insurance. Then I top up with a month to month expat policy like World Nomads for 3 months or so, before going back annually for specialists doctor visits, imaging, and prescriptions on my US policy. Good luck!
Sharon *******
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@Ann ******
Thanks for this information and for taking the time to do this.
Shannon ********
@Ann ******
what us travel policy do you use? Just curious
Ann *******
@Shannon *******
I'll send you a DM.
Duncanc **********
You also need insurance to visit …
Stéfan ********
@Duncanc *********
no, you don't
Duncanc **********
@Stéfan *******
oh that’s right… I forgot that you can also use Gofundme
James ***********
For 10 years a couple of Dutch and American friends that are between 30 and 70 always buy ALLIANZ insurance by the month… On the website supposedly it’s limited to six months at a time… But you can keep adding month by month in the country go to… For about a half million in coverage 50,000 hospital any other benefits always included Covid is only $40 down to 120 bucks a month depending on your age..

Takes less than five minutes to go to the website give a credit card choose between three coverages...no health precondition Limitation’s at all
Bob **********
Call

Mike
Thomas *********
Darlene *********
I have inboxed you with info
Colin ********
I'm 60 and my health insurance is about 40,000 thb per year.
Tony ************
what insurance do you have
Jeff *********
@Colin *******
can I ask which company you’re using, and is that inpatient care only?
Colin ********
@Jeff ********
yes, Pacific Bell
Jeff *********
David **********
Here’s what I would do. Open a Thai bank account deposit 800,000 THB go to Thailand on a tourist visa exemption given upon arrival. Go to immigration and change your visa exemption non immigrant O visa This visa does not have an insurance requirement. I’ve been on it for seven years now
Sharon *******
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@David *********
Do you not have any insurance?
David **********
@Sharon ******
Better than
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of experts are uninsured. Folks that live in fear should definitely ease their minds and by insurance.Especially folks that are not financially secure
Tony *********
@David *********
- may I PM you David for some advice?
David **********
James **************
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isn't so bad an option....
Yorick ******
@Sharon ******
sad to read this story. I would like to help by doing a market research to find the most affordable health insurance option. I am an advisor at
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and our service is entirely free. Could you send your date of birth to my e-mail?
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Let’s find a solution together so you can enjoy your retirement in Thailand 🇹🇭
Kevin ********
I'm changing to O visa my insurance is a waste of time 3 million but only 100k baht per visit can pay that myself. Also they try to get out of paying. Its gamble with or without insurance.
Ken ********
@Kevin *******
if you go home you can get travel insurance for 364 days. I went swimming in a clong caught leptospirosis in hospital for 8 days ICU for 3 bill was over 500k thank Christ I had travel insurance
Kevin ********
@Ken *******
In UK can't get long term travel insurance only World Nomads before now over 66 they won't insure me.
Bryn ********
@Ken *******
I’ve usually only seen travel insurance for a max of 90 days. Carrier info, please.
Ken ********
@Bryn *******
southern cross Australia
Bryn ********
@Ken *******
Hopefully it isn’t limited to Australians.
Ken ********
@Bryn *******
there is a French company I'll look for you can't remember the name off the top of my head
David ********
You can get a Elite visa for about USD$17,000. It has no insurance required. You can travel to Thailand on a tourist visa and go to immigration and apply for a non o. No insurance required.
Bryn ********
@David *******
You need ฿800,000 baht maintained in a Thai bank for a year, and if you deposit ฿65,000 over that year you can withdraw the ฿800,000 and use the ฿65,000 for living expenses. No need to keep a specified amount in your account.
Steve ********
@David *******
She's 76. She can get standard retirement visa for 2000 baht, extendable each year for 1900 baht. What's the point of an elite visa at her age?
Curtis **********
Get the Thai Elite Visa, no insurance requirement and 100% above board.
Bryn ********
Curtis Heyamoto I live in Thailand on the yearly renewal program. No need for insurance for entry. Non-0
Bill ********
I got minimum required for $50 a month at 63 yrs
Irene *******
Thailand is no longer affordable for retirement …. You may want to consider in Malaysia 🇲🇾 a very expat friendly and I have heard reviews it is well affordable.
Stéfan ********
@Irene ******
Malaysia is more expensive.
Ken ********
@Irene ******
compared to where
Gary *********
Irene Leong nearly 20 years I was there, still spend 4 months there. And you ?
Gary *********
@Irene ******
thailand is very affordable to retire to, even with the current price increases the world has seen, it’s still better value than western countries and a much better option than Malaysia.

Have you spent and extended time in thailand. What are you basing your assumptions on.
Irene *******
@Gary ********
how long have you lived in Thailand ?
David ********
Irene Leong Please tell us what long term visa is affordable in Malaysia. MM2H requires something like USD$230,000 in a Malaysian bank plus a high income.IMHO, Malaysia used to be affordable for retirees but not after 2021.
Bernard *****
@David *******
338.000 US$ and 8600 $ monthly pension and the demand has dropped of 90%, strange no? 😂😂😂
Sharon *******
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@Irene ******
Why do you say it's not affordable? Just wondering what you're basing that on.
Irene *******
@Sharon ******
generally feedback from retiree friends quote unquote … even for some of us still making an income things are expensive in many aspects
Christopher ***********
There are expats living on their government retirement pensions. They may or may not have savings. It isn’t a problem unless they suffer a serious accident or illness that prevents them returning to their home countries for treatment.
Steve *****
@Christopher **********
I have Government FEHB with Blue Cross Blue Shield from the USA. I have coverage in Thailand. No need for returning to the states.
Steve ********
@Christopher **********
You can get an insurance with a high deductable (300,000 baht) at reasonable price which covers those unexpected catastrophies
Cris ******
In his hin there’s insurance and it’s $190 a month. My older friend has it and he is very very high risk. And they cover everything no co pay. Don’t think you did enough research.
Bryn ********
@Cris *****
Which company?
Paul *********
Axa Easy Care Visa Insurance. About 7.5k Bht p/a. High deductible. Applicant between 55 - 60 y.o.
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Bryn ********
@Paul ********
Most retirees are gonna be 60-65 or older.
Paul *********
@Bryn *******
So adjust the quote. It's still going to be a lot lower than she was quoted. Retirement Visa's start at 50 in Thailand and this is a Thailand Visa group
Bryn ********
@Paul ********
If she’s getting quotes at a $900 a month rate, it’s safe to say she’s considerably older than 50.
Paul *********
@Bryn *******
Everything you have written are guesses and assumptions I'm offering the poster another avenue of enquiry. Why you decided you needed to enter the conversation with guesses and assumptions that helps no one and contributes nothing is beyond me
Bryn ********
@Paul ********
Thanks for sharing.
Bob **********
You don’t need insurance just get a non-o visa and extend here
Janin ******
@Bob *********
, really bad advice, anything can happen at any age. So the best is to take whatever insurance. A lot of people regret or take insurance when to late…..
Bob **********
@Janin *****
most insurance over here fight to pay anything and if your over 65 they’ll fight even more medical care over here is cheap just self insure and if it’s serious wing your way back home
Janin ******
@Bob *********
Some yes! But not all, take a reliable and good one, fill every paper in, in all honesty and they will cover you, of course it’s not cheap, but enough to make a good choice
Ryan *******
900 dollars a year....2.4 dollars a day.....

I just paid the same and I'm.under your age.....maybe mine is expensive......
Rory ******
@Ry**
she said $900 a MONTH.
Sharon *******
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@Rory *****
Yes, per month. And I received an email after requesting another quote and both suggestions the broker gave were over $1000/month. But I've also received other suggestions here that are looking much better.
Rory ******
@Sha***
that’s great. Best of luck.
Christopher ***********
@Ryan ******
I read it as 900 USD per month?
Todd *********
@Christopher **********
yes - definitely NOT getting insurance at 76 for $900 a year
Sharon *******
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@Ryan ******
how old are you?
Ryan *******
@Sharon ******
sorry, I Read it wrong...
Tohksic ******
Get your ass to the Philippines. $10-20k will get you a permanent residency visa (SRRV) with no insurance requirement. Way nicer beaches, English is spoken by pretty much everyone, and it's still a tad cheaper than T. Drawbacks are Phil food not as good as T food (but Western food available everywhere), and the infrastructure is less developed. I like living here in T but Phils would be my close 2nd choice.
Craig ********
@Mar ***
I am 11 years in the Philippines, Australians like me choose Thailand, but I met a great Filipina and the Philippines sold me, I have visited Thailand and the two are worlds apart
Nontiya ***********
@Mar ***
Then get killed at every street corner... RIDICULOUS to compare $hithole Philippines to my country...
Tohksic ******
@Nontiya **********
You should work as a diplomat for the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. 😂
Craig ********
I have lived my whole life with that motto, “ Don’t do tomorrow what can be done today “ and always say yes, I am 62 and my life experiences have been incredible to me, at least half of them I wouldn’t have done if I didn’t say, fuckit , just do it, by the way Nike stole that from me lol
Iwan **********
Please check your inbox
Sharon *******
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@Iwan *********
The only new thing I see is an email with two quotes that are even higher than the one in my post.
Iwan **********
@Sharon ******
i didn’t send you an email or quotes, i send you only a message in facebook messenger.
Sharon *******
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@Iwan *********
OK, I'll check.
Ian ********
That's very expensive

Why not fly to Thailand then get a Non O visa based on being over 50 then get yearly extension, there is no requirement for insurance just need 800,000 bath in bank 2 months before extending.

For health insurance have a look on Mr Prakan for all your Thailand insurance requirements

You can compare policies and prices in it from the leading providers

In Thailand health insurance

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AxMdob *******
Why did you want to stay Thailand ?

philippines or indonesia,or malaysia are better option now,

If it s for weather aIr quality , and cost of living
Nontiya ***********
@AxMdob ******
yes sure, better options but foreigners who all want to stay in Thailand are just idiots ? Or maybe it's you...
AxMdob *******
@Nontiya **********
no I never say that bro , the world change and now there are many better option. That can you make save money , on house or condo rental , with beautiful beaches,

And less crowded area .

Not every one have tons of money , but some people just want have a good life near beautifull beach , and kind people (and for do thooses thing thailand is very expensive Now.

Best regard
Kev **********
Sharon I pay 160 UK pounds each month. I have to pay the first 2000 pounds of any claim. I am 67.
Tammy **************
@Kev *********
What company are you with
Kev **********
Kev **********
@Tammy *************
Pacific Prime Bangkok are brokers . Insured with AXA
Erin ***************
Wow….that’s cheap. You need to plan ahead. You will need insurance anywhere in the world. It is a reasonable requirement.
Sharon *******
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@Erin **************
I have excellent insurance in Canada but it converts to a really weird plan if I move out of the country.
Erin ***************
@Sharon ******
yup. My usa insurance is moot when I leave.
Sharon *******
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@Erin **************
The strange thing is that on the plan I have to convert to if I leave, hospital stays are covered but not any medical services. And then our dental plan is a worldwide plan. So strange.
Sharon *******
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Interesting. Two people thought this was funny.
Nontiya ***********
Stop thinking, you are wasting your last few good years ! Just come here as a tourist and stay if you want, visa or not !
Charles ***********
Other option is to come to Thailand on a tourist visa, convert it to a non-o visa while inside Thailand, then get a one year extension based on retirement. No insurance requirement.

However, you need to have 800,000 Thai Baht in the bank account. But there are visa agencies that may be able to get around this requirement for a fee.
Sharon *******
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@Charles **********
I'm uncomfortable with anyone getting around the rules for fee. I've already seen horror stories about that.
Helen ********
@Sharon ******
based on some of your responses, assume you are CAD? You can still get the affidavit of income from the CAD Embassy in Thailand so you aren't required to do the 800,000THB in the bank. There were rumors flying around that it might change but who knows.
Bob ***********
@Sharon ******
it's very common to simply pay a fee and get the papers you need. PM if you have questions.
Nigel *********
@Sharon ******
don't trust agents. They're completely unregulated, however, Charles is quite correct about the non o in country and the 800thb in Thai bank method.
Thomas ************
My insurance sucks! Pay a lot but they not pay anything, example I got Covid and get 2000 b. Pos company
Paul *******
Yes, why not get the non O visa, which does not require the insurance. Then shop around for insurance with a higher deductable like one one else posted...However, if you can not afford to put the required amount of money in a Thai bank to get the non O, then thats another issue.
Trudy *********
@Sharon ******
most pay as you go
Gary ********
Yeh thailands biggest problem expensive health insurance that rarely pays out
Ruth *******
@Gary *******
that's the biggest problem. People are required to buy the insurance and it doesn't pay out anyway.
Lynnette *******
@Ruth ******
you aren't required to buy insurance if you apply in Thailand.
Ruth *******
@Lynnette ******
I’m aware, but the in-country visa has its own requirements that are becoming harder and harder to meet (most especially opening a bank account). The point of my comment is not that there aren’t other options. 🤦‍♀️
Lynnette *******
@Ruth ******
you said people are required to buy insurance, they aren't if they apply in Thailand.
Ruth *******
@Lynnette ******
they are required to buy insurance for certain types of visas…FACT. Just stop.
Lynnette *******
@Ruth ******
at least now you've corrected your post that it's "only some types of visas".
Brook ********
Even if he acquired a Non O visa and an annual retirement extension, the Thai government could decide tomorrow to require impossible to get health insurance and he would have to abandon his home, furnishings, car, motorcycle, friends, neighbors and life with little or no notice.
Brook ********
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John ******
@Brook *******
so there is a fall back: elite or ltr
Todd *********
@John *****
100% - LTR is the golden ticket if you have the means, elite is nice back up option if you can’t meet the income requirement
Todd *********
@Brook *******
also, you could be struck by lightning on the toilet this afternoon
Nigel *********
@Todd ********
You still using that outdoor toilet? 😅😅
Todd *********
@Nigel ********
best i can do!
Neil *********
Hi Sharon may I ask how old you are? We are independent advisers and have access to all of the health insurance market both in Thailand and internationally
Sharon *******
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@Neil ********
Yes I'm 76, nonsmoker, no preexisting conditions but it seems to be about my age. I have not been asked for any health details.
Neil *********
@Sharon ******
you’re right it is about age firstly
David ********
@Neil ********
76 it’s mentioned 👍🏻
Mark *********
People say $900 US a month is unreal, but yes that could well be the cost if you are in your 70's. And it isn't Thai companies that are charging this, but international ones. A good suggestion I read here is to have a whacking but deductible, but keep that deductible amount (100-250,000 baht) in an account. As I ammon my 70's also I will do this and have the insurance to cover major events', not rashes and colds.
Ken ********
Is that with an non OA visa if you get an non O visa insurance isn't required
Colin *********
@Ken *******
Insurance is required for a Non-O Retirement Visa in when applying in some countries. It is when applying from Australia and Sharon says it is in Canada. For those countries, better to enter Thailand on another Visa and apply for the Non-O when in Thailand it seems.
Ken ********
@Colin ********
yes I know I didn't mention the part about applying in Thailand but others have added it to my comment
Sharon *******
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@Ken *******
That is not what I'm seeing on the Thai consulate site. They're still showing the 400,
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Ken ********
@Sharon ******
the
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has to be in a Thai bank account not the insurance value
Darlene *********
@Ken *******
no , that is 400k IP and 40k OP Thai company medical insurance
John **********
@Sharon ******
many companies in Thailand won't take you on as a customer at all once over 75 so your choice will be very limited. You have the option of self insuring if you just come on a tourist visa and then convert that to a retirement visa inside Thailand. Another thought would be to contact some of the many retirement facilities in Thailand and ask them if they can recommend insurance companies for someone in your situation
Michael ********
@Sharon ******
get non o in thailand no insurance required
Linda ***********
Private message me with email and age as my broker got me excellent coverage for older person.. go for in-hospital only.He'll send u options. Good luck!
Sharon *******
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@Linda **********
I sent a message.
Padma's ******
Try Pacific Cross. I’ve just had a reasonable quote for age 50-55. Here are details

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This is who I go through. I used him in the past. His name is Loic

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Sharon *******
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@Padma's *****
I'll contact him. Thanks.
Padma's ******
@Sharon ******
no probs. Best of luck
Istvan *********
Sounds weird...$900/month (That's 31.600 baht) ... Can't be that much even if you are over 100 years old... (Except if you have already a lot of existing health problems...)

That's usually the yearly cost. Get help from a visa company and they can tell you the exact cost because this price is definitely not right.
John *******
@Istvan ********
just go to a visa agent, probably less than 30k baht a year. come here on a visa waiver entry
Istvan *********
@John ******
I guess this message is for her and not for me. I'm only 40 I don't need a retirement visa yet 😉
Sharon *******
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@Istvan ********
I'm 76 and have no preexisting conditions. No company asked about that. The prices I've been quoted have been based solely on my age.
Elisa *******
@Sharon ******
did you try Luma ?
John ******
@Sharon ******
I am older than 76 no pre existing conditions. Have Cigna via aa insure. AA insure has offices in hua hun Pattaya and bangkok. Pay much less than 900 a month.
Istvan *********
@Sharon ******
I'm sure that's not right at all. Even the medical care for foreigners isn't cheap here in Thailand, but the insurance is definitely not that high. Check AXA Thailand and get a quote... I'm sure they have a much better offer around 40-50k baht/year not stupid $900/month... Many people retire here at your age or even older and they don't even spend that much money on just living per month. Look around I'm sure you will find a better offer.
Sharon *******
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@Istvan ********
I'll keep looking.
Istvan *********
@Sharon ******
Don't give up I'm sure that's not right at all. Check AXA Thailand they had great offers, especially for people who want to retire. Good luck
Sharon *******
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@Istvan ********
Thanks. The quick quote I got online was much better. I'll contact them.
Lynnette *******
@Sharon ******
but you don't need insurance to apply IN Thailand for O visa. So why apply outside of Thailand where you're forced to buy costly insurance?
Istvan *********
@Sharon ******
I'm glad to hear that. Good luck!
Rollo ************************
The real lesson here is that there are much better places to retire where they understand that outside money brought in by foreigners drives the economy— 😂 It’s not too late. If you’re looking for a society that mirrors Thailand almost 💯% with much easier immigration processes where they can actually speak ENGLISH not for show but for sure, check out the Philippines 🇵🇭 if you haven’t considered it already 😉 Im sure some retirees here would pick better places if they could do it 2.0 🤷🏾‍♂️
Don *********
Rollo Ajarn Roadie Sawyers I have spent a fair amount of time in the Philippines and would not consider living there, even for a few weeks as (1) the food is truly awful - both the local Fayre and their poor attempts at non-local (2) I assume due to the crippling poverty and lack of Buddhist values there is always someone trying to scam / ‘borrow’ / ‘invest’ or outright rob you (3) public transport is terrible and dangerous (as one of many examples a previous in-law was on a Jeepney and someone was quietly knifed in front of her). Each to their own but if Thailand wasn’t an option I would consider Cambodia way before the Philippines
Incognia **********
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Incognia **********
@Don ********
Vietnam is also nice.Actually depends on what u expect.Cambodia not too much activities.Not enough for a foreigner.Small population.
Don *********
@Stelar ******
also a great option, agreed
Nick *********
@Rollo ***********************
not at all like Thailand. The crime and poverty are epidemic.
Jared *********
@Rollo ***********************
hmmmmm.... I don't mean to be rude but Philippines does not mirror Thailand society. Both are great places and have wonderful things about them but they are very different in many ways. The biggest similarity is that they are both in tropical portion of SE Asia. That's about it.

Differences include housing quality versus cost. Food. Level of development. Transportation. Medical. Engkish speaking ability levels. There are Pros & Cons to both but very different.

Philippines does have a better grasp of English but not everywhere and it is its own version of English. Much better snorkeling and diving in PI. Great beaches. Transportation & infrastructure is not as developed though and cost of housing for the price is not quite as good.

Thailand has a broader variety of activities and temples and stuff. More developed and better medical and transportation. English isn't as common except in the professional and educated.

I have quite a bit of experience in both and trying to decide which to move to as well. Or I might bounce back and forth.
David **********
This comment is the most accurate and fair description of the differences between the Philippines and Thailand that I have read. KudosJared
Incognia **********
@Jared ********
thats is why i learned thai language and now i can stay in both Thailand and Philipiness but Thailand is better than all in my experinces.Forever.
Sharon *******
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@Rollo ***********************
I'm looking into that. A friend is going to the Philippines later in the year to visit her family and she has invited me to join her. I'll probably go.
David **********
@Sharon ******
The difference between Thailand and Philippine medical systems are vast. A good measuring stick is the fact that Thailand has 10 of the top 20 hospitals in Southeast Asia. The Philippines has one! 
Jared *********
@Sharon ******
great place!
Thomas *******
@Sharon ******
Even if retirement doesn't work for you there, you should definitely go. It's a beautiful country.
Wayne *******
Inboxed you
Glyn **********
You can significantly reduce the cost by increasing the deductible. Ask for 250,000 deductible!
Christian *********
There are definatly cheaper options then 900$. It should be arround 300$ for people above 60
Frank **********
I understand, that is why I am moving back to the US as soon as I can get my wife a permanent residency visa. This way I can use my Medicare and being retired military my military insurance. Between both of them I pay literally nothing to the doctor. I am going to be 69 and have preexisting conditions.
Robert **********
@Frank *********
ok i hope you enjoy good health.
Robert **********
@Frank *********
Tricare for retired military should have an international plan. Medicare is prohibited by law for overseas coverage except the first 60 days of a trip
Frank **********
@Robert *********
yes TRICARE does but you have to pay upfront first then they reimburse you 75% which is good but I am looking at what the future holds as I get older. I already had a tumor removed from my brain in 2012 when I lived in the states. I am overdue for an MRI and some other things. If I have to have major surgery it may be hard to pay upfront.
David ********
@Christian ********
I’m 59 silver wings $120 pm you can stop and start it monthly
Tom *******
@David *******
I’m the same age and looking for something similar. Do you happen to have any info on the silver wings insurance cover by any chance? TIA.
David ********
@Tom ******
hi Tom I’m still covered by another company for two months from Uk atm ….but will have a good look just before mine expires ……I Lookd a while ago and it comes recommended
Tom *******
@David *******
thanks. I found two by that name and neither are suitable for me. One is for pilots, and the other is only travel insurance. Thanks anyway.
Frank **********
@Christian ********
yeah but I heard they do not cover preexisting conditions.
Aimee ************************
Daren *********
@Christian ********
I would like to know what medical insurance you use.

I am 56 and I have been quoted over 1000 dollars and that is only for in patient
Sharon *******
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@Christian ********
I'm 76 so most companies won't consider me at all. You can get coverage before 65 which can continue to 99 but it's difficult to start coverage at my age. The only other coverage I could find had a $10,000US deductible but still cost $570US so almost $800Cdn. Unfortunately I only found out recently that the coverage I have through my previous employer will cover hospital stays if I move out of Canada but no treatment in hospital. It doesn't make sense but that's what it is so it doesn't meet the requirements.
Rich ****
@Sharon ******
Just get some emergency travel insurance unless you have existing health issues. A good one is Genki (Allianz)

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Tom ***********
When one door closes another opens, often to a better place.
Jeff *********
You must be getting up there in age, $900 seems crazy even for Thailand. No doubt the insurance companies and hospitals are doing there best to take advantage of foreigners living here, they got ya over a barrel 😞
Durrant ********
@Jeff ********
insurance companies are a business to make money not give money away. They prefer to insure young healthy people not old liable people
Jeff *********
@Durrant *******
of course, but they also can be greedy
Durrant ********
@Jeff ********
any business is all about making money and up to you to see who is more greedy they never advertise that.
Steve ********
You can get a non-O visa (over 50 years of age) in Thailand with no insurance requirement. You can then purchase your own medical insurance with a high deductable amount (say 300,000 baht) which will cover you for extreme medical conditions. Keep 300,000 baht in a bank account for smaller incidents
Steve ********
@Ralphy ****
No insurance required in Thailand
Ralphy *****
How do you get/requirements to get Non-O in Thailand
Ralphy *****
My Non-O in February 2023 was approved without insurance, now new application requires insurance. I argued how was February approved without insurance.
Garrett ***********
@Ralphy ****
Non-O inside thailand does NOT require insurance.
Ralphy *****
@Steve *******
it's changed, you need medical insurance. But they accept travel insurance for at least 40k, 400k cover
Steve ********
@Ralphy ****
Wrong. There is no insurance requirement for visas obtained in Thailand
Steve *************
@Ralphy ****
, a non-OA needs insurance, but a Non-O doesn’t require insurance.

I just did mine 2 weeks ago and only had to provide the financial documentation to immigration.
Ralphy *****
@Steve ************
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Steve ********
@Ralphy ****
Non O in country requires no insurance . If that has changed it hasn't been advertised on any of the Thai Visa forums i have seen.
Ralphy *****
@Steve *******
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Sharon *******
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@Ralphy ****
The Ottawa Thai Consul site had similar info.
Helen ********
@Sharon ******
if you apply in Canada, you need insurance for the 90 days of the visa. Once you do the extension, you don't. And as people have said, you can come in on a tourist or visa exempt and apply once here without the insurance requirement.
Steve ********
@Sharon ******
Take no notice. He's spreading misinformation. You apply in Thailand. No insurance requirement
Riny ************
@Steve *******
I tried to get the Non O Imm Visa in Holland and the embassy required insurance. So I came on a 60 Days TR Visa and applied here for the Non O Imm Retirement Visa. No insurance required here for this visa. Granted 4 weeks ago.
Keef ********
@Riny ***********
bit of confusion here again to repeat some others if you obtain a Non O INSIDE THAILAND there is NO insurance requirement (of course you should get insurance anyway). Hope that's clear. There are 4 types of visas that people call retirement....OA O, O (in TH), X
Riny ************
@Keef *******
thats what I posted I think. No health insurence required for the Non O Immigrant Retirement visa which I applied for in Thailand. And of course I have a health ins, but that is the much cheaper Dutch Health insurrence I have already a very long time (which is for all Dutch the same and covers world wide). And on top of that I have a travel insurrence which also covers medical issues.
Keef ********
Steve ********
@Ralphy ****
Thats if you apply in Australia . Apply in Thailand and there is no insurance requirement.
Mark *********
@Steve *******
That's a smart way of doing it!
Gordon ************
Sharon , you just need some good advice, you will get it from this group, good luck 🙏🙏🙏
Michael ********
Sorry to hear that
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