@Steve *******

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 "can't grasp terminology" . . . . Dude, ya gotta get real. You must have missed something during your education.

@Steve *******

English is my second mother language, I shook hands with Bobby Kennedy and you are the "arse" who is speaking 😂 🤣 😂 poor puppy. My sponsor was a highly decorated 1-star General of the US Army . . what kinda gutter kid are you?

@Teresa **********

you don't "renew a retirement visa". . . all you do is renewing your yearly "1-year extended stay permit". You discontinued to hold a visa 7 years ago

@Andy *******

when you are on an extension of stay you have received "out of a former Non-O visa", Immigration will only move the "extension stamp" to your new passport. They were never allowed to move a "visa sticker" or nowadays Visa stamp. Immigration can only move their OWN stamps, which are the entry stamps and the extension stamps. Immigration does NEVER extend a visa, this is technically not possible - regardless they call an extension of a stay permit a " visa extension". Immigration is unfamiliar with the fact that a visa and a stay permit are TWO different technical terminations of a different situation. You ENTER a country with a VISA, and you will receive a stamp which is a STAY PERMIT ("admitted until" and in the upper right corner there will be a small stamp of a hand written entry about the visa-type the stay permit is based upon!) and from the date of entry on - if you entered with a single entry visa - you are in Thailand on a stay permit and NOT on a visa. Only if you entered with a multi entry type visa, the visa remains valid until its expiry . . HOPE YOU FINALLY UNDERSTOOD because I am sick of discussing the matter with people who act like stubborn bricks

@Andy *******

I reckon it is VERY SAD that you seem to be mocked for the pitfalls of terminations. Let me explain! That's because a Non-Imm-O/A visa is a multi entry type and stays valid until the visa validity expiry. However a single entry 90 days Non-Imm-O visa will be stamped "USED" upon entry, and you will be in Thailand on a 90-days stay permit. Dig? Just read your entry stamps, guys. DON'T discuss with an expert if you are not sure about your gibberish . .

@Steve *******

you couldn't be more wrong. Just let it sink in, pal. no worries, some day or the other you gonna understand it

@Steve *******

actually it would be VERY EASY to prove that I am right. Just look at the stamp of a guy on a "retirement extensions of stay". The stamp says: "extension of stay permitted until . ." and a date. NOWHERE it says that this stamp is a visa. If you and Immigration were right, then show me WHERE on the stamp it says that it is a visa? A VISA CANNOT BE EXTENDED, PERIOD! It clearly states that the "stay permit" got extended. The "reason" of the extension of the stay permit is an extra stamp or handwritten note, says either "retirement" or "married"

@Steve *******

Yes, Thai Immigration is wrong. They are too lazy to correct their confusion. A visa is not the same as a stay permit. Period!

@Steve *******

a "visa" is a title which allows you to ENTER a country.

A stay permit is a title which allows you to STAY inside the country.

After you ENTERED, the visa is void.

You are in the country with a stay permit.

And in case Immigration extends it, they will extend your stay permit.

Immigration cannot extend a void and "USED" visa.

I sincerely hope the correct termination is AS CLEAR AS MISSISIPPI MUD now

Thai Immigration wrong termination, is not my cup of tea, it's theirs . . it's on THEM !

@Steve *******

That's wrong! No, it's not a visa extension. A visa cannot get extended at all! The visa is already invalid/"Used". It's a stay permit extension. It's just that Thai Immigration doesn't make a difference between a visa and a stay permit, although they are technically speaking not the same thing