@Chris ********

he is a Belgian citizen and he wrote that he doesn't have 800,000 THB but that he can prove an income of more than 65,000 THB monthly. The Belgian Embassy Bangkok is issuing income affidavits to their citizens. . . . . SO: he doesn't need an agent, he doesn't need a Thai bank account, he doesn't need 800,000 THB. He doesn't need toilet paper, and he doesn't need your advice. . . . All he needs is the income affidvit and 1900 Baht. . . I called your advice s...y because that's what it is, and we all see that you lack of knowledge, so please refrain from giving people irrelevant advice

@Eric *********

you could file an appeal in writing which they will have to send to the Immigration Headquarter in Bangkok - and they will rule in your favour. There is NO official rule that you need BOTH the income affidavit AND the transfer proofs. The relevant written police order says EITHER - - OR . . why not ask them for a written/printed official police order ?

@Paul *******

read before this sentence: "using the 12- months bank statement, in the second year. After being issued the next extension" . . . . . . . . . once you have changed the financial proof for the application from the 800K deposit method to the 12-months of bank transfer method, and after you got issued the 1-year extension based on the 12-months bank transfers, you can withdraw your 800,000 THB completely

@Nick ***********

please be aware that you don't need to argue, you can SIMPLY say that you are filing an appeal. You have the right to file an appeal against a decison an Immigration officer just pulled out of his nose . . . . . . . . the topic was "income affidavit PLUS proof of transfers" - which is against the standing police order. The police order clearly states: It is EITHER income affidavit, OR it is proof of transfers

@Chris ********

if you post nonsense, that's what you have to expect from me: ZERO respect

@Peter ***************

yes. It is "either-or". EITHER income affidavit, OR 12-months of proof of transfers. OR the deposit method. I had a PM with Tod Daniels this morning. We see more and more backwater and provincial Immigrations bending the rules, ignoring the official police orders. They seem to be pulling out of their noses random extra requirements. You have the right to file an appeal to the Headquarter in Bangkok

@Wim ***

your wording is wrong, you did not "extend a retirement visa" . . . . . your "retirement visa" expired and became invalid when you entered Thailand on it. The only thing you got extended was the 90-days stay permit which got extended for ONE year . . . and that's exactly what this stamp tells you . . I do my "retirement extension" every year, since 17 years, it takes me 25 minutes on my Immigration and 1900 Baht

@Eric *********

I just finished a serious interview with Tod Daniels. We spoke about these ill practises of some Immigrations. . . do you want to know what his reply was? . . . . . . . . . . Here: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . „totally NOT true

it's a b/s immigration office in Nakhon Nowhere

Bangkok/Chiang Mai accepts the income affidavits from countries whose consulates issue it without question

no proof of funds comin' in,

the reports are from bull shit back water immigration offices and people need to get a spine stand up for themselves and say they want to see that rule in WRITING

I hate that they just roll over and accept anything out of an immigration officers mouth as gospel

they need to say they want to file an appeal

IN WRITING

that they do not agree with that and that they want proof it is a real rule, AND they want the appeal to go to Bangkok to be reviewed

It is sad that people don't stand up for themselves

you have to realize the immigration officers are just low/mid-level paper pushing, passport stamping government workers,

I argue with them all the time when I interact with them, both in person and on the phone if I have to call an office to find out something.

I don't want to be their friend, I want them to get their shit done

I feel so bad for people that happens to

BUT we are seeing more and more consulates here discontinue the affidavit of income service

It's sad when that happens to people out of the blue like that though, they are stuck, they feel powerless

@Eric *********

thank you for your report. You are now among half a dozen people who I know have confirmed this change of policies regarding applicants to the Extension of Stay who use income affidavits . . . . . THERE is NO SUCH RULE . . it is EITHER income affidavit OR 12-months of bank transfers, and NOT BOTH

@Peter ***************

exactly, a very correct warning to all those whose embassies STILL issue income affidavits. We never know what will be around the corner in the years to come