@Paul ******

My reading comprehension is just fine.

1. Classic move to blame your unclear/bad communication on the person reading it. Most good communication follows a structure (thesis, support, conclusion). Yours...didn't. Randomly criticizing people + using ALL CAPS on facebook screams fidgety insecurity.

2. This is completely conjecture. You're connecting dots where there are none. (eg. adult foreigners getting denied DTVs for hours overstay has nothing to do with 4 year old children getting denied entry to Thailand when they become adults.)

3. Regardless of your anecdotal experience, I know plenty of foreigners living in Thailand with their foreign children under age 15. Many of their children are currently overstaying with no issue. Any future issue is purely conjecture. Call it reckless, call it whatever you want. People are living their lives based on available information, not anxious conjecture.

@Paul ******

Having a hard time connecting your initial statement (future repercussions) to your ending statements (stateless workers).

@Braydon ********

I feel you. We’ve been here a long time. Immigration really won’t do anything. A lot of foundations are advising their volunteers to do the same. It’s weird, and I totally get the caution.

(That’s what we’re planning to do, fwiw)

Also worth noting — children under 15 (14? 16?) can overstay their tourist/exemption/any visa without repercussion.

What many families do is have the parents get visas and let the children overstay. 🤷‍♂️

@Jo *********

no, it has more to do with any kind of service involved. If someone’s offering a service, free or otherwise, it’s likely in need of a work permit.

@Michael *******

that’s WILD

@Bob *********

volunteering implies working for a foundation, but that’s not relevant because we aren’t 👍🏼

@Tony *******

we aren’t personally facilitating or anything — just part of a structured play group (and I don’t think the facilitator has a WP).

Curious because we’ve wanted to get people together in an informal way in order to provide a similar kind of support for parents in a group setting, but wasn’t sure if that would constitute need for a WP or not.

@Tony *******

where would you define the line between “social gathering” and “services”?