What are the visa requirements for children of expats in Thailand, specifically regarding proof of funds?

September 19, 2024
5 days ago
Braydon *********
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Parents who applied for the Visa for their children...

Our 2 year old son clearly doesn't have proof of funds, or access to our bank accounts, was this an issue when you started the visa process?

How did you work around this?
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The conversation addresses concerns of expats applying for visas for their children in Thailand, specifically regarding the necessity of proof of funds for minors. Participants share personal experiences indicating that typically, children under the age of 15 do not require separate proof of funds as they are considered dependents on the parents' visas. Some mention that when applying, parents can reference their bank accounts or provide a letter stating the financial capacity to support their children. Additionally, several comments discuss the risks involved with overstaying visas for children and the implications it may have in the future.
Roberto *******
I just added my bank account information to my daughter’s application and it got approved.

I wouldn’t go the route of having your child “overstay their visa without repercussions.” This is Thailand, and things can change on a dime without proper notice. Paying $500 for piece of mind, and a 5 year visa is pretty good.
Paul *******
@Roberto ******
Yeah, especially since Thailand isn't really a country where foreigners move to with their foreign spouses given how little security there is for us here. It's a reasonable risk if your wife and children are Thai, because then only you need a visa and they can own property and everything else in their own name. However, fooling around with immigration and getting your children into an overstay situation is negligent and could potentially have repurcussions for them down the line.
Braydon *********
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@Roberto ******
100% agree.
Tod *********
What is crazy is,

Although most do not, some consulates require the parents to show the 500K for EACH child 😮
Daniel *******
Dependent people don't need proof of funds
Florence ************
Why would you pay 10k TBH for a visa for a 2 yo?
Braydon *********
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I'm just following instructions as I read them. don't dependents also need DTV visas?
Florence ************
@Braydon ********
your wife sure does but a child that young probably not. Kids older than 15 probably should too.
Braydon *********
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@Florence ***********
so what visa would work for my son?
Paul *******
@Braydon ********
The DTV of course. Or whatever visa you're on.
Florence ************
@Braydon ********
no visa needed. You enter on visa exemption for 60 days. You can extend for 30 if you want to.
Paul *******
@Florence ***********
That's not going to work for long term residence and soon an ETA will be needed.

I thought most farang in Thailand had Thai wives and their children were Thai citizens so this wasn't an issue, but I guess if you're one of those people who hasn't discovered the charms of Thai women, then you'll have more hoops to jump through.

I don't think I'd relocate to a country like Thailand with a foreign wife and foreign children...there's zero long term security.

At the very least though, I'd ensure EVERYONE has the proper visa, which is usually a case of children piggybacking on the parents visa.

Deliberately forcing them into an overstay situation just because the law says those under 15 can't be arrested, deported or charged for overstay is reckless in the extreme.

Pay the 10,000 Baht fee. If you can't afford that, living in Thailand will be a challenge. Besides, an LTR visa costs 50,000 Baht just for ONE applicant and in New Zealand, a DTV costs the equivalent of around 43,000 Baht for ONE applicant.
Braydon *********
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@Paul ******
yep I agree. I'm not willing to put my son in that kind of situation
Thomas ********
Also worth noting — children under 15 (14? 16?) can overstay their tourist/exemption/any visa without repercussion.

What many families do is have the parents get visas and let the children overstay. 🤷‍♂️
Thomas ********
(That’s what we’re planning to do, fwiw)
Braydon *********
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i'd rather not risk anything 😅
Thomas ********
@Braydon ********
I feel you. We’ve been here a long time. Immigration really won’t do anything. A lot of foundations are advising their volunteers to do the same. It’s weird, and I totally get the caution.
Paul *******
@Thomas *******
Their advice is reckless. There may be FUTURE repurcussions.

However, this isn't a common situation except among tourists.

The reason is, there are not many foreign families living in Thailand. The vast majority are foreigners who marry Thais and their children become Thai citizens too. The single major exception being migrant workers and their families from neighboring countries....however, there are now amendments in the Thai nationality law granting Thai citizenship to the offspring born in Thailand where BOTH parents possess permanent residency or, according to my understanding (this needs to be verified) are migrant workers of a certain status or are stateless but whose ethnic origin is in Myanmar, Laos or Cambodia.
Thomas ********
@Paul ******
Having a hard time connecting your initial statement (future repercussions) to your ending statements (stateless workers).
Paul *******
@Thomas *******
Sounds like reading comprehension isn't your strong point.

My point is there are NOT MANY westerners at least, living in Thailand who face this situation because the VAST majority are married to Thais and have Thai citizen children. I don't know a single farang who has foreign children living here, though I understand they exist, but to me they are basically long-term tourists.

HOWEVER, it is reckless for any organization to suggest that deliberately allowing your FOREIGN children to overstay will not have future repurcussions.

Already some DTV applicants are finding their applications refused for previous overstays (although these are probably documented in their passports as the MOFA does not yet appear to have access to a more wide ranging database).

In Phuket, foreigners who've overstayed by mere HOURS have been arrested at the AIRPORT!! So to say that children won't have future problems such as possible visa denials once they turn 18 or 20 (probably 20, since that's the age children become adults in Thailand) is ridiculous.

The last part of my comment pointed out that the largest contingent of FOREIGNERS who are NOT married to Thais and live in Thailand with their FOREIGN spouses/children, that being migrant workers, also have the highest chance of their children being Thai citizens, hence their children do NOT face this issue.
Thomas ********
@Paul ******
My reading comprehension is just fine.

1. Classic move to blame your unclear/bad communication on the person reading it. Most good communication follows a structure (thesis, support, conclusion). Yours...didn't. Randomly criticizing people + using ALL CAPS on facebook screams fidgety insecurity.

2. This is completely conjecture. You're connecting dots where there are none. (eg. adult foreigners getting denied DTVs for hours overstay has nothing to do with 4 year old children getting denied entry to Thailand when they become adults.)

3. Regardless of your anecdotal experience, I know plenty of foreigners living in Thailand with their foreign children under age 15. Many of their children are currently overstaying with no issue. Any future issue is purely conjecture. Call it reckless, call it whatever you want. People are living their lives based on available information, not anxious conjecture.
Paul *******
@Thomas *******
1. No, your reading comprehension isn't fine. I put keywords in CAPS for emphasis so you wouldn't get confused again.

2. Well, your recklessness isn't my problem. Thai immigration is tightening up and I hope parents like you will face problems when your children have future visa problems due to your recklessness.

3. MANY is anecdotal. There aren't that many. Most are basically tourists and can't be classified as residents. If there were many farang families living here, I'd know about it and there just aren't, except for some Russians and Ukrainians who aren't on proper long-term visas and are only here to escape the effects of the war.
Thomas ********
Paul *******
@Thomas *******
When you're losing the argument start using memes or insults right? Funny how all you people use "boomer". You do know that refers to an older person of a certain generation right? Looking at your picture, I'm younger than you, so I can't possibly be a boomer.
Thomas ********
@Paul ******
I think you need to calm down, Paul. I'm not seeing any evidence of "losing" anything except for my time.
Paul *******
@Thomas *******
You lost the argument from the beginning. You wanted a "thesis". LOL. I'm not writing an essay here buddy. I'm giving you some facts laid out, plain and simple.

Again, I don't care what happens to you or your children. I just hope that Thai immigration becomes stricter in order to weed out those who are abusing the system like you seem to be.
Thomas ********
@Paul ******
Bro, go back to listening to Andrew Tate or something. I'm sure Thai Immigration will be happy to have you aboard.
Paul *******
@Thomas *******
whatever libtard.
Thomas ********
@Paul ******
KNEW IT
Kimberly ********
I just put in the cover letter I submitted that our daughter was three years old and had no account in her name but they could find our last names were the same and the funds were available to pay for her stay. Just in case :)
Seb ********
It isn’t required. You can add your statement if there is a technical requirement to submit before it lets you finalize but they don’t need their own account/peoof of funds.
Sefton ********
A dependant visa is attached to a eligible visa, dependants do not apply on thier own self standing merits (usually).