@Paul ******

I don't know about non-B, but there is no requirement at all to travel on a non-O

@Greg **********

I'm giving my viewpoint. What's the point of subscribing to something if it gives no benefits?

I don't like handing my info willy-nilly to a strange government. Another database to have personal details on. If it was worthwhile no problem, but I can't see the advantages

@Paul ******

Wouldn't surprise me at all. I know what tw*ts they can be at immigration with their blinkered approach and obsession with making life difficult for foreigners. I'm happy I won't have to deal with them for five years

@Paul ******

Yes but I'm talking about frequent travellers. I'm in and out of Thailand three or four times a year, flying to Australia or Europe. Why on earth would I travel to that barren wilderness called Isaan to bounce at some Godforsaken outpost in the middle of nowhere? People who don't travel much are better off probably with a non-O visa. The DTV isn't one glove which fits all

Was the item faulty? If so, they are liable for the full cost of refund or replacement

@Ian *******

So that doesn't qualify for the DTV which is what this particular thread relates to

What was your DTV issued for?

@Greg *******

Exactly! Which is why I urge people to avoid immigration. Even with non-O extensions, immigration tends to make life difficult no matter what. Even my last extension, all my paperwork was in order, everything was fine, but oh no, still something else. For the first time in years, they wanted TWO photocopies of my passport ID page. So said the lady with a photocopy machine sitting right behind her. I'm sure at times they are just being bloody-minded and difficult. So it's little wonder I'm looking for a way to avoid the immigration office. With a multi-entry re-entry permit, my time at airport immigration can be counted in seconds. Never a problem. And I agree, immigration offices will no doubt bring in all kinds of ridiculous requirements for extensions, so best to avoid at all costs

@Tim ****************

I need to go to Australia a couple of times a year as I have business and family there, and also to ensure I retain Australian Tax Residency so it suits me. Not everyone is in the same position. If I wanted to just sit in Thailand for the rest of my life, the non-O is perfect. I think what you guys are missing is that every retiree is in a different situation. You seem both to be very anti-DTV which is surprising if you're in this group which I understand is to help people attain this visa to make life in Thailand easier for them. Anything I say which is positive you attempt to negate this, to the point where

@Greg *******

is actually throwing out insults. I don't quite understand why you guys are so angry, unless of course you're naturally bad-tempered, there are plenty of farangs in Thailand who most certainly are