@Paul ******

Let's say it that way: it's complicated.

There are some exceptions around that. You're allowed dual in some cases.

It's mainly abou becoming German and keeping your previous one, that's no issue any longer as it seems.

The other way around ... not so easy.

But to be honest with you, I didn't dig too deep into that since I wouldn't be eligable for another passport at the moment anyway (digital nomad and no spouse to speak of haha) and I haven't been to Germany in like 8 years or so (hence not up to date on laws anyway) and I don't really need a different / additional one.

But maybe in the future I'll analyse that new law in detail and think about getting the Irish passport as well. But no rush. 🙂

@James ******

You mean, as opposed to ... ? 😃

Being allowed in on an invalid visa? Well, that would be something. 😃

@Paul ******

So true! 😃

@Luit ****************

Oh, that totally makes sense. 🙂

If a spouse visa is no option, then the DTV is in my eyes also the way to go. I totally hear you. 🙂

I was wondering if a spouse visa is the easier way but it might not even be.

The citizenship/passport is certainly not an easy route a

@s **********

es thankfully explained in great detail. Seems like that's a big hassle. 🙂

@Paul ******

There is a very easy reason for saying that: Germany doesn't allow dual passports and I would never give up the German passport, because it's the top passport to hold for worldwide travel. 🙂

Yes, there are some areas where certain passports are better than others but overall, German and UAE passports hold the highest passport power, so it's quite an easy decision for me. 🙂

Sure, if I could hold a dual citizenship that would look very different.

I totally agree with you on that one.

@Paul ******

Thank you for adding all this information.

It's fascinating to see that it's so hard to get a passport that I wouldn't want to get anyway (purely looking at passport power).

I wonder why that is tbh.

But the spouse visa itself should be rather simple, no?

@Paul ******

I can't show you one, because I lack the knowledge about it. That's why I was asking. 😉

At least when it comes to Thailand.

Of course it's different for (some) other countries:

Easy to get, valid indefinitely (as long as you're married).

I do agree with the idea of not being able to naturalize right away, that's just wrong.

For example, in Ireland we have to wait three years to get an Irish passport after marrying. I think that's a good number. You're allowed to stay anyway, passport doesn't matter. 🙂

@Christopher **********

Why do you need a DTV then? Genuine question. 🙂

I always assumed Thailand has a spouse visa as well? Or is that a more complicated thing to do? 🙂

@Kes ****

absolutely! It doesn't even matter what type of visa it is and what type of visa the bank accepts because the banks do have the final decision about who they want to give a bank account to or not. So it's completely pointless for us to argue with what makes sense or what doesn't make sense. You just have to accept what the bank is telling you. Any business has the option to refuse a customer if they want to.

@Angelo **********

I thought so too. But someone here posted a link to the official website, that I cannot find right now, and it says it's the tourist visa. 👍