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What should I do if my landlord hasn't provided my TM30 before my visa expires?

Anthony ****
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Ok .. I seriously need help my friends .

My landlord didn’t give me my TM30 yet ( She said she will do it for me but after weeks never got it yet) and 5th december is my last day of my 30 free visa.

What are my options knowing that its holiday today , tommorow and tuesday(5th)..

I ‘ve been to different hotels to see if they can make one for me if I stay there for one night and they don’t understand what is a tm30 or they just can’t …
Answer summary
The individual is facing an urgent need for their TM30 form from their landlord, which is required for a visa extension before their 30-day visa expires. Comments from the community suggest various options, including going to immigration directly with documentation (like a rental agreement), considering a stay at a hotel that can process the TM30, and the potential need for landlord assistance to comply with immigration requirements. There are differing opinions on whether a TM30 is always necessary for a 30-day extension depending on the immigration office.
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Simon ********
Simon ********
You do. I just had an American guest and they wouldn’t give her a 30 day extension without me filing a ™ 30 for her, which I did. Mind you, if you ask two different immigration offices you’ll probably get three different answers, in my experience.
Klee **************
Klee **************
@Simon *******
sounds about right
Leo ******
Leo ******
Immigration was ok when I showed them the hotel key card or the booking confirmation.
Gary *******
Gary *******
IE attach said receipt, with managers signature
Gary *******
Gary *******
Just fill out the form and sign it any which way. They dont care to check it, as long as it has the letterhead on your paid receipt.
Kevin *********
Kevin *********
Lots of landlords know nothing about TM30 and don't want to know.

If they know they'll have to pay tax.

Immigration offices vary in the requirement.

A grey area.
Olivier *********
Olivier *********
@Kevin ********
chonburi must have tm30 and tm7
Kevin *********
Kevin *********
@Olivier ********
Pattaya, Chonburi seem to be more strict on this.
Carl ********
Carl ********
I don’t know why you’re so concerned, it’s not your responsibility, it’s the landlord that will get a heavy fine, not you!
Tore *********
Tore *********
Your landlord? Are you long or short term renting? Typically if you have your own condo its your own responsibility to report tm30
Karim ***************
Karim ***************
Go get a cheap hotel for 2 nights and ask them for a copy of your tm30
Jacob ********
Jacob ********
@Karim **************
afterwards move out
Karim ***************
Karim ***************
@Jacob *******
don’t even stay there, if they have other accommodation. It’s simply for the tm30. Then from next round of check in at immigration, make sure the landlord does it properly. It literally takes them about 3 minutes, online.
Chris ********
Chris ********
Took my tenancy contract to immigration and they completed tm30 along with photos etc at a cost of 300tb apart from overstaying 2 days and paying 1000 for that, I fly through and had my passport back at 9:30am following day with 30day extension stamp
Anthony ****
Anthony ****
OP
@Chris *******
you went to immigration 2 days after you were supposed to quit thailand? And what do you mean by you fly through
Gio *****
Gio *****
They never ask me before but last month in Mae Sot they did ask a letter from the accommodation where we were staying for 3 nights.
Olivier *********
Olivier *********
@Gio ****
in ChonBuri it s like that Tm30 and Tm7
Gio *****
Gio *****
@Olivier ********
we just here for two months, we needed to extend the visa on arrival
Olivier *********
Olivier *********
@Gio ****
can do it before or after the first 30 days
John *******
John *******
Ok jomtien/chonburi immigration you will require current tm30 for extension just completed mine there that is a sticking point for them basically mandatory at that office
David ****************
David ****************
1600b fine at immigration...got one myself
Klee **************
Klee **************
I paid 1900 for 2 years now, 30 day extension, how did you only have to pay 1600???
Olivier *********
Olivier *********
@David ***************
1900 baht at Jomtien
Klee **************
Klee **************
you do not need aTM30 for 30 day visa extension
Larry ********
Larry ********
@Klee *************
that must have been the case for me. Small bungalow operations on Ko Chang
Stuart *********
Stuart *********
@Klee *************
That depends on the office you use. Some insist others don’t.
Klee **************
Klee **************
@Stuart ********
really? in 23 years going to different offices i've never needed a TM30 for 30 day extention
Klee **************
Klee **************
@Stuart ********
did my 30 day extention 2 times in CM 1 year ago, no TM30, things must have changed
Stuart *********
Stuart *********
@Klee *************
well obviously in those 23 years you’ve never used an office that requires one. Good luck trying that in Chiang mai or apparently Jomtien.
David ****************
David ****************
@Klee *************
yes u have to show tm30 for 30d extension...
Klee **************
Klee **************
@David ***************
I never have needed one
Klee **************
Klee **************
@David ***************
I was just at Bluport immigration in HH, no TM30 needed
David ****************
David ****************
@Klee *************
same for me before...but they enforce it nowdays
Nerissa *******
Nerissa *******
You can ask your landlord for the login details to fill it out yourself on his/her behalf. Our landlord did this for us because she was always too busy to do it. We then just printed it all out and took it to immigration. So we would just fill it in every time we returned from a trip.
Anthony ****
Anthony ****
OP
@Nerissa ******
when he or I do the tm30 application how mich time it takes to be valid?
Nerissa *******
Nerissa *******
@แอนโทนี่ ******
it should be done every time you return from travel to your rental place. Valid until you leave again. That was my understanding.
Sam ******
Sam ******
Tony ********
Tony ********
not holiday
Colin ***************
Colin ***************
Not up to you. Landlords responsibility.
Dianne *****
Dianne *****
@Colin **************
except if the OP wants an extention it will be the OP paying the fine for the landlord not registering the TM30
Wayne *********
Wayne *********
The hotel may understand if you show them this

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Anthony ****
Anthony ****
OP
@Wayne ********
so I went to immigration and they say you need to come back the 6th even if my 30 days finish the 5th… she no no wont be in overstay because the 5th its a holiday!! WTF
Anthony ****
Anthony ****
OP
@Wayne ********
so it just needs to be made 24 hours before going to immigration and even if the tm30 is made for 1 day, couple daus before my extension will be ok?
Sam ******
Sam ******
@แอนโทนี่ ******
Yes, days, weeks or months before is fine. You should register as soon as possible. The actual requirement is to register your TM30 within 24hrs of arrival at any address.

If you do manage to do it online yourself remember to make a Screenshot of the page that shows that you have ‘informed’ to keep for your record.
David ***********
David ***********
If its not on the computer take your rental agreement or booking receipt and immigration may put the TM30 through for you whilst doing the extension
Niklas ***********
Niklas ***********
I should book 1 night in a hotel, then they will register you.
Graham ******
Graham ******
"What are my options knowing that its holiday today , tommorow and tuesday(5th)." - Monday is not a holiday so Immigration Offices are open. book into a cheap hotel for that will do a TM30 for one night i.e. Monday, get a copy of the TM30 and get your extension on Monday.
Anthony ****
Anthony ****
OP
@Graham *****
went it 3 different hotel included Grand Jomtien Palace and they dont know how to do this .. it seems complicated and people in hotels or even my landlord dont really seem to care 😅 I will hope that my landlord comes tommorow with me at immigration and pay the fine 😞…
Graham ******
Graham ******
@แอนโทนี่ ******
Pay the fine? Some hope, you'll get the 1600B fine.
Min **********
Min **********
Landlord should know….

You can show her this otherwise what she does is illegal too.

แบบฟอร์ม ตม.30 ในประเทศไทยคือเอกสารที่เจ้าของบ้านหรือผู้ที่มีสิทธิ์ให้เช่าอสังหาริมทรัพย์ต้องยื่นต่อสำนักงานตำรวจภายใน 24 ชั่วโมงหลังจากมีผู้ต่างชาติเข้าพักหรือเช่าที่อยู่อาศัยของตน ฟอร์มนี้เป็นการแจ้งข้อมูลของผู้ต่างชาติที่พักอาศัยในทรัพย์สินของเจ้าของบ้าน ซึ่งเป็นส่วนหนึ่งของข้อกำหนดในการตรวจสอบและควบคุมผู้ที่เข้ามาพำนักในประเทศ การยื่นฟอร์ม ตม.30 จึงเป็นหน้าที่ทางกฎหมายที่เจ้าของบ้านหรือผู้ให้เช่าต้องปฏิบัติตาม เพื่อรักษาความปลอดภัยและเป็นการช่วยในการตรวจสอบบุคคลที่เข้ามาอยู่ในประเทศ

ถ้าเขาต้องต่อวีซ่าจำเป็นต้องใช้คุณเข้าไปลงทะเบียนออนไลน์ก็ได้ถ้าไม่สะดวกไปตม.

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Sara ******
Sara ******
@Min *********
I know many landlords don't do it. One said to me that he never did it in 5 years, that I am first one, because I force him to do it.
Min **********
Min **********
@Sara *****
some thai old people they don’t know how to do it. 😁 and don’t even understand what is it.
Sara ******
Sara ******
@Min *********
couple was resort owners, so they have to know, and that person who never did it before, was foreigner.
Jean-Louis ********
Jean-Louis ********
And they will send too by e mail to the immigration office.
Jean-Louis ********
Jean-Louis ********
You can stay one night at Anodard hotel, located in the center of CM and they will give you the TM30..✌️
Brown ********
Brown ********
The hotel staff don't know about the TM30? You need to talk to the hotel manager then.
Deanna *******
Deanna *******
We did ours ourselves. Went to immigration, got the forms, filled them out, got our landlord to sign it and give a copy of her ID and sign the copy. Go back to immigration and file it.

They might have you take a photo outside your house with the house numbers. Ask for all the documents you'll need when you get the forms. They will give you a list.
Paul ********
Paul ********
Go Immigration with Hotel booking Confirmation n Details???? It's Landlord's responsibility
Larry ********
Larry ********
I made out my own and had the landlord sign and dated it. She wrote something in Thai. My hotel doesn't have a phone. It went fine. There are hotels that have no phone and don't know how to write. Just do it yourself and have them sign it
Nongnuch ********
Nongnuch ********
@Larry *******
on most Immigration offices, you would need your rental contract, and copies of the landlords blue housebook and Thai ID card, both signed by him in blue ink, before you can register TM30 by yourself
Larry ********
Larry ********
@Nongnuch *******
well obviously I didn't have any of that so I did the best I could and they gave me a Visa extension but it sounds like you know everything
Nongnuch ********
Nongnuch ********
@Larry *******
your visa never got "extended". It's just the stay permit which gets extended. A visa can technically not be extended, it becomes "used" upon entry
Nongnuch ********
Nongnuch ********
@Larry *******
I said on "most" offices. It depends on the Immigration you use. Most offices won't let you easily make your own TM30 if you live in a rented accommodation. If you live in a "hotel" or resort, the resort where you stayed would have already had a TM30 filed for you, and the officer sees it on the computer. That 's why I rightfully reckon your application for an extension got admitted
Brown ********
Brown ********
@Larry *******
don't you need their house book though
Larry ********
Larry ********
Well obviously I didn't have any of that so I did the best I could and they gave me a Visa extension but it sounds like you know everything
Larry ********
Larry ********
@Brown *******
I don't know what that is. Small bungalow on Ko Chang and no phone. I did the best I could.
Nongnuch ********
Nongnuch ********
@Larry *******
since you speak about a "hotel" and a bungalow, it seems that you live in a small resort. The reason Immigration allowed you to extend the stay permit obviously was, that the resort/hotel owner already had you registered by the online TM30. It must have slipped from your attention
Andy **********
Andy **********
I recently did a 30 day tourist visa extension in jomtien, this is the list of requirements they give to me, you will need a recent TM30.
Klee **************
Klee **************
@Andy *********
you absolutely do not need a TM30 for 30 day extension
Klee **************
Klee **************
Maybe I have a TM30 already in the system? I wonder if they just use my name/passport number and already have the information???
Klee **************
Klee **************
@Andy *********
thank you
Andy **********
Andy **********
@Klee *************
if you haven't done a TM30 yourself, hotels that do everything by the book will take your passport and register you automatically when you check-in, if you did a 30 day extension and nothing got said, it's already in the system or it's not a requirement for that particular office.
Andy **********
Andy **********
@Klee *************
I've heard at certain immigration offices, a TM30 is not one of the requirements for a tourist visa extension, but he is doing it at jomtien immigration, and you do need a recent TM30 already in the system when you go to do the extension, or you will get a fine.
Klee **************
Klee **************
@Andy *********
wow crazy
Andy **********
Andy **********
@Klee *************
I've thought exactly the same thing many times, you would expect them all to be reading from the same government rule book so to speak, I've had dealings with land and transport offices, they are the same make up their own rules. 🤷
Klee **************
Klee **************
Anthony ****
Anthony ****
OP
@Klee *************
not a lot oof things that makes sense here tho 😅
Klee **************
Klee **************
@Andy *********
one thing I will never understand about Thailand is why different immigration offices, have different rules, it makes no sense to me
Anthony ****
Anthony ****
OP
@Andy *********
2 photos can be found on my driver license and other cards or I need actual photos ?
Graham ******
Graham ******
@แอนโทนี่ ******
actual passport style photos
Andy **********
Andy **********
@แอนโทนี่ ******
just go to jomtien immigration everything you need you can get there, you need actual photos because you attach one to the TM7 application form, go first thing in morning or afternoon because they close for dinner, there are visa agents there that can help you if you're struggling.
John ********
John ********
Go to immigration and speak to them and give them the landlord's phone number so that they can ring him or you ring him yourself and let the officer speak to your landlord
Andy **********
Andy **********
@John *******
I got told there have been recent changes in the rules at jomtien immigration, if you just turn up and don't have a TM30 in the system, you will get a ฿2000 fine, they might phone his landlord, but you can bet he will pay the fine.
John ********
John ********
@Andy *********
your right, that's true but he can get the money back from the landlord by not paying the full rent for the next month
Nongnuch ********
Nongnuch ********
@Andy *********
you can bet that the landlord will not pay the fine 😂 🙂 this will be placed on แอนโทนี่ รุสโซ
Anthony ****
Anthony ****
OP
@John *******
and they will allow me my extension?
Nongnuch ********
Nongnuch ********
@แอนโทนี่ ******
well, John Harper's reply is valid! I did this myself on the Immigration Hua Hin, since my landlord did not register me via the online TM30 system. The officer spoke to him in Thai, and on the next day, the landlord went to Immigration together with me. However, it was ME who had to pay the 2000.- THB fine for a late TM30 😕
Nongnuch ********
Nongnuch ********
@Andy *********
I indeed objected, however then received the famous "Thai Smile". That's Thailand for you 😁
Andy **********
Andy **********
@Nongnuch *******
did you question why you were expected to pay the fine?? when it's your landlord's responsibility to do the TM30.
Aake **********
Aake **********
@John *******
thats the best way
Stuart *********
Stuart *********
What immigration office are you going to use? You may not need a TM30 for a short term extension.
Anthony ****
Anthony ****
OP
@Stuart ********
so I went to immigration and they say you need to come back the 6th even if my 30 days finish the 5th… she no no wont be in overstay because the 5th its a holiday!! WTF
Olivier *********
Olivier *********
@Stuart ********
tm 7 and tm30 for extention 30days
Stuart *********
Stuart *********
@Olivier ********
I don’t know the rules for Jomtien. In Phuket you do not need a TM30 for a short term extension.
Klee **************
Klee **************
@Stuart ********
exactly true
Olivier *********
Olivier *********
@Stuart ********
30+30 days extention
Olivier *********
Olivier *********
@Stuart ********
in there they ask it (chon buri)
Anthony ****
Anthony ****
OP
@Olivier ********
never heard of tm7 I think they only ask tm30
Olivier *********
Stuart *********
Stuart *********
@แอนโทนี่ ******
TM7 is the form you fill out for an extension.
Rob *******
Rob *******
@Stuart ********
do you need one to extend a 60 day tourist visa ?
Anthony ****
Anthony ****
OP
@Rob ******
no i have a 30 days free visa
Nongnuch ********
Nongnuch ********
@Klee *************
in Jomtien it is needed!
Vini ***********
Vini ***********
@Sam *****
Thank you for helping, many are grateful for this info 👍🙏
Klee **************
Klee **************
@Olivier ********
not for a 30 day extension, no TM 30 needed
Sam ******
Sam ******
@แอนโทนี่ ******
My landlord sent me the two required documents and I did my TM30 online myself.

You would need to ask your landlord for signed copies of their Thai ID and the house book, and then you can register the TM30 online by yourself.

Register yourself on this link and then you’ll receive an email to activate your account. Then you can add the address when you have the two required documents from your landlord to upload.

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James *********
James *********
@Rob ******
so, you're just "hijacking" someone else's post?
Nongnuch ********
Nongnuch ********
@แอนโทนี่ ******
the Immigration in Jomtien requires a completed TM30 registration, or otherwise they will not allow to to apply for a touristy extension. You will need to check into a hotel, hand them over your passport, and any good hotel will automatically register you via TM30. Then you visit Immigration ASAP and apply for the 30 days extension. Immigration will see that you are TM30 registered and won't give you any problems
Olivier *********
Olivier *********
@Declan *********
no asked me that only tm 7 nd tm30 for extention 30 days at Jomtien immigration
Anthony ****
Anthony ****
OP
@Olivier ********
where I can fill it ? Can you send me the link 😛
Olivier *********
Olivier *********
It s an exemple for my tm 30
Olivier *********
Olivier *********
@แอนโทนี่ ******
you need to justify your adress for tm30 normaly the hotel or condo owner to this for you
Declan **********
Declan **********
@Olivier ********
you also need a STM.2 and acknowledgement of penalties.
Anthony ****
Anthony ****
OP
@Stuart ********
ok thanks and do you know if in pattaya I absolutely need a tm30? If they require it do you know if there is another option because I think that if I overstay I will get problems if I want to reenter in thailand the next times especially if a do a visa run next month
Stuart *********
Stuart *********
@แอนโทนี่ ******
They’ll have them there.
Anthony ****
Anthony ****
OP
@Olivier ********
do they have tm7 at immigration or i need to print it before?
Olivier *********
Olivier *********
@แอนโทนี่ ******
extention 30days need tm7 and tm30 pay 1900 baht and copie of passport 1 id photo and number of your phone on tm7 you can find it on google for print the document tm 7 easy
Anthony ****
Anthony ****
OP
@Rob ******
can you pm? I sent you message
Rob *******
Rob *******
@แอนโทนี่ ******
not really what i asked
Anthony ****
Anthony ****
OP
@Stuart ********
Chonburi Immigration Pattaya
Anthony ****
Anthony ****
OP
@Stuart ********
jomtien in pattaya
Leo ******
Leo ******
@แอนโทนี่ ******
thats the worst one lol, goodluck
Leo ******
Leo ******
@Andy *********
exactly, and they are always angry and rude, they charge different amounts and you just have to accept it, and a list of other things, i hate that location
Andy **********
Andy **********
@Leo *****
whenever I've gone to do anything, they just seem to have you there unnecessarily for hours and hours, just trying to appear like they are checking something when you have all your documents in order, and keep telling you to sit down and wait 🤷🙆
Stuart *********
Stuart *********
@แอนโทนี่ ******
Not unless you are going for a Non O or Ed visa or have a Thai wife or
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Thai kids.
Anthony ****
Anthony ****
OP
@Stuart ********
its possible for me to take more than 30 days extension?
Stuart *********
Stuart *********
@แอนโทนี่ ******
You use the office where you live and have your TM30. If you were to stay in a hotel in Bangkok and got them to file a TM30 you could use Bangkok. Would work for a short term extension but not a long term one.
Anthony ****
Anthony ****
OP
@Leo *****
is it possible to live in pattaya and to go at immigration in bangkok or it needs to be in pattaya because I live in pattaya?

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