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What should I do if I need a TM30 form for immigration but I'm not on the lease and my partner won't add me?

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Apr 2, 2023
2 years ago
Cale *******
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Can someone please help. I live with my partner and I am not on the landlords lease agreement, she won't put me on cause im a foreigner. I am now changing to a ED visa cause of college and I need a TM30 form for immagrations. What can I do?
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The individual is seeking advice on how to obtain a TM30 form for immigration purposes while living with a partner who refuses to add them to the lease due to their foreigner status. Suggestions from the community include self-filing using the landlord's identification and documentation, or temporarily staying at a hotel to ensure the hotel registers them on the TM30. There are discussions regarding responsibilities in registering TM30 depending on whether one is living in a hotel or a private residence, highlighting the differing practices in various provinces.
Ally ************
Some of the advice here contradicts what i was told by immigration in Chiang Mai just a week ago.. they explained that if i stay in a hotel, then it is the hotel's responsibility to register my residence there.. ie. file an online TM30.. but if i later move into a private residence, then i must register again.. if you live with a resident landlord (or with family or friends) then it is their responsibility to register you and they should assist you in your attempt to file the TM30 by providing copies of any documents needed.. in my case, i recently arrived in CM to stay in our own property.. which is owned by my Thai wife.. but i failed to file my TM30 in good time.. because of my ignorance over the
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hour deadline to do it.. and of course we got fined for this indiscretion.. but immigration stated that if i could prove any prior residence in a hotel etc (which had failed to register me) then they would review the imposition of the fine.. but they indicated that i would still have needed to register a TM30 after leaving the hotel and going to live in a private property.. judging by earlier comments it sounds like different provinces operate different practices then
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Paul *******
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 Just tell them you moved to wherever you reside within the past 24 hours even if you've been there for years.
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Ally ************
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 They want to know where you were residing between the date you entered the country and the date you file your TM30.. and want to see proof of stay such as a hotel receipt if you are claiming to have just moved into a private residence.. so that won't wash I'm afraid!
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Samui ***********
Move
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Michael *******
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Adrian ******
Move had same problem when I lived in Bangkok. And actually got a better place
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Cale *******
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Thank you for sharing!!!
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Cliff *********
Register at an inexpensive hotel for one night and make sure they file your TM30. FInished.
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Cale *******
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I see thank you.
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Graham ***********
I read this and wondered is it the property owner or person with the lease who has the responsibility to produce a TM30?
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Stuart *********
@Graham **********
 Owner responsible. Except it’ll be you that’s fined if they don’t. Logic? Not here.
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Cale *******
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@Stuart ********
 This is also true thank you. 👍🏻
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Graham ***********
@Stuart ********
 My question is based on thinking that a lease is different to short term rent. If a property is leased how does the owner ever know who the leasee allows to stay at the property? I suspect it is
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 's partner that is responsible for notifying Immigration through the TM30 when a foreigner stays in the property under their control. They could try to create an online account and TM30 and see if it is accepted.
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Cale *******
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@Stuart ********
 I am not on the lease
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Valère *************************
@Stuart ********
 Not in Chiang Mai. The owner gets called into immigration, gets a lecture and a 1600 thb fine. Seen it with my own eyes in feb '23.
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Martyn ***********
Stuart had nailed it, as always... 😉
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Stuart *********
You can self file using the owners ID, house book, rental contract and passport copy. Perhaps may differ in requirements if owner is a foreigner or a company.

Failing that book in to a hotel for a night and get their filing of your TM30
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Wilhelmina ********
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 Docs from the owner could only be copy, digital or hard?
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Ben *********
@Wilhelmina *******
 just go to a hotel get the tm30 they don't care as long as you have it. You can even use a hostel
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Cale *******
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@Wilhelmina *******
 thanks, I don't think they will believe im staying In a hotel for 3 - 6 months. 🤔
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Stuart *********
@Cale ******
 You don’t need to. A TM30 is where you’re staying right now. This second. No issue if you move tomorrow and never go back.
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 hard copy. Signed by owner.
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Stuart *********
You’d need to check with your local office. In Phuket if the owner is Thai you’ll need the copy of their id. A copy of the house book, a rental contract, a power of attorney form with tax stamps and a filled out TM30 form. If the owner is foreign or a company then you’ll need land title documents and company paperwork too.

Or Check in to a hotel for a night and get their filing.
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