Can I extend my Non-O visa after it has expired and what options do I have?

Jul 12, 2020
4 years ago
Ryan *************
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Hi all, went to extend my none o a while back and was in short told not to bother and go home, anyway it’s well over so I’m overstaying but obviously not with the amnesty, however I want to know can I still update 60 days as normal or am I too past the date now? I went in time but was told to go home bassicly? I don’t know if I can extend 60 days from when it ran out or if I’m going home end of July now? I don’t think it matters? But I have a none o on the basis I have a child in school here who is Thai/English however weirdly it’s classed as him being here in a priv school , not fully sure but it’s not for marriage although I don’t think that matters it’s a none o, I have two kids in school so I really want to get it sorted or at least plan, btw my none o allows me to get 60 days extension as opposed to the usual 30 here is a pic of my passport visa , I know a lot are in worse situations then me wanting to see there kids etc so hope it’s sorted soon, appreciate any replies or help in advance cheers
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The user is seeking clarification about extending their Non-O visa, which has expired after being advised previously not to renew due to COVID-19 restrictions. They express concern about overstaying their visa and whether they can still apply for a 60-day extension associated with their visa. Community members provide insights that, despite the visa expiration, it may still be possible to extend the visa based on family connections in Thailand, especially considering the amnesty period. However, ambiguities and potential complications are discussed regarding immigration office procedures and documents required.
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Richard ******
Do as youre asked go home
Carlo **********
Bunch of thieves.
Todd *********
@Richard *****
or just enjoy 90 days of overstay 🏖🇹🇭🍷 ☀️
Richard ******
@Todd ********
if you can afford it.if not monkey house
Todd *********
@Ric****
many visa options even more expensive than that. And no lineups 😂🙏
Richard ******
They dont wsnt people who live on 4.000bht s month
Terary **********
I went to immigration today and was told to leave July 31. IO didn't look at my passport - just told me leave July 31.

I think their first response is 'Go home'

I went to visa service and they offered a few options.

Some how a they can get 90 day extension for 25,000 baht. Couple of places told me they can do that.
Todd *********
@Terary *********
90 day overstay is only 20,000 baht. Enjoy
Ryan *************
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@Todd ********
not true mate, your stating the law if you hand yourself in, after the 31st if the amnesty is not put forward I can imagine the IDC will be checking passports in drones, get caught overstaying without handing yourself in aka not at the airport, your in for a very rough ride and a stay a detention center, your correct though handing yourself in but youll be getting banned from Thailand for a year (if overstaying and caught 90 days) after the holiday in the detention center/paying for your own flight. Not worth the risk especially given they will be checking everyone out soon, youll also earn yourself a big red glag on your passport/file for future entries which youll be looked at funny for
Todd *********
@Ryan ************
the fines exist for a reason mate. If there is no reasonable extension opportunity from in-country put into place post amnesty (sincerely hope they do this), and you’re not interested in going ‘home’, that’s a good opportunity to use it. But sure hope they do something smart to keep tourists here
Ryan *************
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Some news has just come out from a poster on here its going to be extended till end of September****, source from his wife whod just got off the phone with a lady in IDC, not my info but its on a comment on one of these posts and seems like it might be true as its just out, but yeah I got the go home bit too heh, hey atleast you didnt get called steven gerrard on your way out, also id beware of the scammmers, hearing reports of lots of so called visa agents scamming, getting alot of emails/line msgs myself which look a bit dodgy
Asel *******
@Ryan ************
I really hope this is true. I have exhausted all possibilities waiting for Qatar’s borders to open. I have a contract to work there but I couldn’t travel due to covid and now I can’t even get a flight there.
Ryan *************
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@Asel ******
me too bud, keep refreshing the link i left, its only news in the last 24 hours, its getting really late now though for them to start changing dates but this is thailand so we can hope, the above comments cant be confirmed yet so just a speculation albeit promising if they are holding a meeting today, cheers

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Todd *********
@Asel ******
I saw Dubai is open... I was supposed to fly to Doha May 1, but now happy to defer that for a year. Have my QA credit for the flight. No Qatar Airways flights at all from BKK?
Asel *******
@Todd ********
Yes UAE and Bahrain are open but not Qatar yet 😔
Todd *********
@As**
interesting!!!! Thx
Richard ******
The truth is youre not wanted they dont want cheap charlies anymore who can blame them
James **************
@Richard *****
you are an idiot.🤦‍♂️
Richard ******
@James *************
and how do you justify youre observation regarding myself
Ryan *************
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@James *************
you always get one, i probably earn more in a week than this bum has in his bank account but I wont jump on that as a mans money worth/value is irrelevant to me lol, 1 bhat or 2 bill your the same to me, usually these types who have just 2 bob though who start flapping

Richard if you wanna get clever big man, pop down to buriram and ill slap your golf ball shaped head off your shoulders like a bean bag you melt, since your so rich let’s put 5k on it then I’ll buy ya a cheese toastie and pay your bus fair home ❤
James **************
@Richard *****
calling the man a cheap charlie, saying he isnt wanted.

It might be all rosey for you sitting in your ivory tower,but your judgement is not needed.

If you dont have any input or any decent advice then dont say anything.

Only idiots jump on posts with comments like yours, thinking of themselves as being better.

When in reality you are not.

I see you like golf, maybe you should stick to talking about that.
Ryan *************
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cheers Richard but I am not a 'cheap charley' thank you for your observations all the same.
Todd *********
I think the 1 Mar expiry date is maybe the problem? It expired before the amnesty dates?
Ryan *************
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expired 16th of june mate
Todd *********
@Ry**
my mistake!
Tod *********
@Ryan ************
I didn't bother to read all the comments but skimmed them and there are some good and some shit ones

The truth IS,

you arrived on a Non-O visa and were stamped in for 90 days. You went to the immigration office and they didn't give you the 60 day visit thai family extension because you already were ON the free amnesty that lets you stay until July 31st.

SO

That means you CAN go to your immigration office BEFORE amnesty expires and apply for a 60 day visit thai family extension like normal for 1900baht and it will be dated from the date you apply

GO BEFORE amnesty expires and get it
Todd *********
@Tod ********
i came in on standard 30 day tourist visa on arrival. Arrived Mar 19th. So fall under amnesty. Under previous conditions I think my only option would be to apply for a second 30 day visa. Which, I should do as close to end July as possible? Unless new avenue opens as amnesty closes
Daniel ********
@Todd ********
better go to immigration asap
Todd *********
@Dan***
why? Nothing they can do. They know amnesty announcement will change things. And getting a 30 day extension when there are still 18 free days makes zero sense
Ryan *************
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@Tod ********
that’s Todd, that’s awesome so essentially I can get 60 days with the normal paper work I take in, aka his school licence, etc, that’s a massive relief and thanks for the info, I will go tomorrow but technically I could go in 10 days and I’d still be fine? This is great but I hope my idc center which is Maha Sarakham understand and don’t fob me off, but your a legend as usual Tod, I owe you a beer and a beer from last time, really thou you should be paid for this you help thousands It’s really appreciated and not just because it’s good news, cheers mate
Tod *********
@Ryan ************
, remember you're getting that 60 day extension based on visiting thai family, so if it's based on marriage to a thai you need your wife, the marriage certificates, her house book listing, her thai i/d, etc and if it's based on raising half thai children, you need the child, the birth certificate, their house book listing etc.

They will date the 60 day extension from the date you apply for it not from the date your stamp ran out and they will put a stamp under it saying you were on covid amnesty
Michael *************
@Tod ********
Thanks Tod you made my day.
Ryan *************
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@Michael ************
the guy has saved me a number of times, he really does know his stuff, I owe him not just a beer I owe him a barrel of beer lol
Ryan *************
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@Tod ********
it’s based on having my son at a school here, to get the none o in hull (my home city) I just had to submit a series of documents, one being his school liscence, a letter from the school stating he is in that school and will be essentially, few other bits I have an exact list on my pc and a wallet of papers I take for the extension, it’s not based on marriage nor am I married I’m divorced you see, I know if it wasn’t a UK consulate/hull I’d need to show financial proof but as it’s in my country I don’t, so I should be good to just go as usual with my normal papers which are a stack, stuff like grandmas I’d, her house book copy etc he is registered as living his gran on paper, he spends mon-fri with her and fri-mon with me however I pay for his priv school and everything but yai lives near the school so it’s just a deal we’ve always had, I digress but I’m safe on the bank stuff, cheers bud
James **************
You can not extend now, your immigration office should of extended it for you.

You will just have to wait and see what is announced by the government.
Tod *********
TOTALLY FALSE
James **************
@Tod ********
his stamp is finished, my friend went to immigration with an expired stamp and they wouldnt extend it because of that. So its not false.
Tod *********
Yeah, sorry,
@Ja***
that is totally false :( ,

Even though his entry stamp expired and he went on amnesty he CAN go to the immigration office and get an extension he was allowed to get on that stamp
James **************
@Tod ********
well i better tell my friend to go back and get his stamp then.
Matt *******
This is the big problem people are facing with amnesty. What do people do who have a Non-B/Non-O visa that expires in June/July? So we are automatically converted to amnesty which ends 31 July. But then have no where to go to renew our Non-B/Non-O Visa because bordering countries are closed. So it doesn't make sense for Thai immigration to kick people out when under normal circumstances we would be able to renew our Visa and get an extension good for 1 year. But now since we can't do that. What are the options? Just overstay?
Roger ********
I could not border bounce, but got an extension to my multiple O after 3 weeks under the amnesty. Took 40 minutes. I had to wait the 3 week so that a 12th transfer of cash went into the bank.
Ryan *************
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@Roger *******
mine does not involve money, I got it from my home town of hull and there is no money requirements, same with my extension, my none o is based on having a child at a school (weirdly it’s a foreign student at priv school as he is dual nationality) I only have to show financial proof to get a none o if it’s not in hull aka the uk, cheers
Steve *******
@Matt ******
There's nothing to stop Non Imm visa holders applying for a yearly extention of stay and as far as Ive heard most Immigration offices are issuing those extentions, however there is a problem for people with multi entry Non Imm visas who cant border bounce to activate another 90 day entry. My feeling is that the government only have 2 choices, open the borders or extend the amnesty.
Ryan *************
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@Matt ******
yes mate agreed, I know the lady at the Thai consulate in hull (my home town) she said no one knows anything but she did say do not overstay, I did before you see on a tourist visa, they have banned me from ever entering on a tourist visa again, but that isn’t the problem she said if I overstay it could affect my future application which she does for me in usually a few days, she warns me as she knows I have kids here but others won’t get that warning plus overstaying your paying 500 a day and obviously after that date the immagration police are going to be out in force no doubt so could potentially get blacklisted and a stay in the detention center , so I get you but I wouldn’t overstay purely for the fact there is no compassion so you’ll get handed the book and no mercy even thou it’s their fault for not letting us know, I mean what it’s less than 20 days away and they still haven’t said anything, stupid I know but let’s hope this next week brings something, I thought the same as you till I spoke to her, she can’t give me any advice on what to do thou as even she doesn’t know and she heads up the Thai consulate, if she doesn’t know then I’d imagine we are gona be last, they didn’t think this amnesty through as to what happens when it runs out, imagine every expat all rushing out of Thailand on or around the end of July? Would be manic not to mention the massive loss of revenue from is, all we can do is pray I guess but I do get what you mean on the overstay it crossed my mind but then for what? Immagration officer catches you olon day one, your done for so not worth it mate but good thing is we are all mainly in the same boat so hopefully numbers will matter, we could even set up an online partition to extend the amnesty to Christmas, if we get enough online signatures maybe it might have some weight? Cheers
Andrew ********
I'd just be happy to get home in Thailand. Nearly 6 months now.
Ryan *************
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8 years here and 2 kids/dog, i completly feel your pain mate, i think id be loosing it if i couldnt see my son, but things are progressing quick, im lucky to be here but who knows when ill be thrown out, lets hope its sorted all soon, if anything you considered cambodia etc just to have a few weeks with the family? I think I will probably do something like that if I am told to leave end of the month, mabe laos/cambodia etc just to see the kids/mrs, but its shit mate, first they messed us up with the whole visa situation now this, is it so hard for them to allow us tilll Christmas to let things calm plus we are gona be spending here, but nah no logic here so we have to just sit and wait, anyway all the best to you
Andrew ********
@Ryan ************
yes mate, anything is being considered. No kids but 4 dogs and a nice house. Cambodia,Laos, Vietnam all being considered.

Got cut off when the shutdown happened now hope to go to UK this week so I can start the return process. Can't do it in Nigeria.
Ryan *************
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I feel ya pain bud, hopefully youll get some good news soon, if the west can stop being prats and get covid sorted like Thailand has, anyway good luck mate and im sure the wait till be worth it when you get settled back
Andrew ********
@Ryan ************
15 years married in Thailand and a motorcycle that needs a ride.
Maxim ***********
I looked yesterday for a cheap flight from Khon Kaen to Montreal (Canada) for around the end of July. Cheapest is around 16k baht with 4 layovers (Bangkok, Norway, France, and Portugal). It's 48h in total. The odds of this trip going smoothly with no delay or cancellation at any point is close to 0%. All the affordable ones are almost mission impossible. An expensive trip can be done in 30h but much more expensive.
Maxim ***********
Thai can go to many Asian countries visa free, and most of South America.
Ryan *************
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Airlines capitalizing on it I guess, then they want bailing out when they are in the shit, I would sooner fly to another country near Thailand and sit it out for a bit, then again in my small opinion, if we do get told to leave, they are going to make it very difficult to get back in, maybe not difficult but at-least 2021 which would be awful for those with kids/families, especially since they make it so hard for thais to leave the country, for example... if i want fly to a country i hop on a plaine, a thai has to go through interviews and usualy will be declined, something massively wrong about not letting someone leave there own country to travel for me, why are we privilidged and thais cant? not fair, Id love it if I could just hop on a flight now with my kids and wife to the UK, but nah wont happen this year :( anyway lets hope it all pans out for the best
Christophe **********
@Ryan ************
privelleged? Bweing extorted discrimnated against no protectinos all things they have in the West. Hell thye can own guns, property run business without employing 4 USA citizens. Your Stockholm Zimbardo Effect is showing
Ryan *************
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@Christophe *********
well I mean I think it’s just sad a Thai can’t travel like we can is all, I mean as a uk citizen I can go anywhere, I don’t see why Thais can’t travel, let’s face it most Thais would not get the opportunity to leave Thailand, kinda sad really given there is a whole world of opportunities and countries to see, I can’t imagine if the uk said to me you can’t leave the uk
David **********
@Ryan ************
Australia is currently not letting their citizens leave the country.
Ryan *************
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@David *********
only because of covid right? I’m meaning more at normal times, I just find it wrong that any human cannot leave a country essentially forever unless they have bundles of cash, I knew an old lady who died here purely because she could not afford a half decent hospital, it’s sad but I’d say if she went to any paid/decent hospital she would still be here, I digress but it’s that sort of money = you can live/travel mentality I despise, plus kids who’s perants here might be not so wealthy have a shit education, why? Money... for me it’s not right and Thailand should offer every elder and child the same care as the next person regardless of the bank balance, I also feel anyone should be able to travel to see family in another country just like we can
David **********
@Ryan ************
definitely. I agree with you.
Mark *******
You still should be able to extend 60 days. I know tourists could extend even when overstay (pay the 500 baht a day fine + extension fee).

You shouldn't have to pay any fines due to the amnesty.

But, they didn't seem to want you to extend for some reason.

I would go try again now that the amnesty end date is looming.
Ryan *************
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and even if i extend, i wont get the 60 days i think ill get 60 days from when I should have extended right so in my case 60 days starting 16 june not now or the end of the month?
Mark *******
good luck
Ryan *************
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thanks mate, ill pop down this week, I think it was more not that they didnt want to help but a. I dont think they knew themselves what the deal was, and b. it was right in the middle of covid at its peak, good to know i wont have to pay the 500 a day as that would probably rack up to quite alot, will update this thread incase anyone is in my shoes, appreciated for the replies thou
Paul ***********
delete your passport on here
Ryan *************
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@Paul **********
cheers mate got rid of all the important info
Paul ***********
Robert **********
I would blank out your birthday and passport #
Ryan *************
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@Robert *********
done mate cheers
Jim *********
@Ryan ************
Dude if your passport hasn't been copied and sold on Khao San Road yet it will be by the end of the day. Black out your passport number and relevant information.
Ryan *************
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@Jim ********
done bud, you wouldn’t want my indentity wouldn’t wish it on my worse enemy lol
Steve *******
Im suprised they didnt give you the 60 days when you went. Many imm offices are processing extentions of stay. Not sure if you'll get 60 days from 16th June or from when the amnesty ends, my guess is the former if the amnesty isnt extended.
Ryan *************
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I think it goes on your condo/bhan book thing, I know I have a condo in sarakham and thats one of the things they want to see (condo agreement and grandmas house book prooving a i live in sarakham and he is living where he is registered - along with alot of other papers), so Id assume its where you are registered as living as in living with your condo agreement, i dont see any problem in you re-registering you now live in maha sarakham at your wifes address though? and btw, maha sarakham is a great city, lived there for years, if you ever do move and want to know anything give me a shout, a few good guys up there too who i occasionally meet for a beer etc if you want introducing, great city mate and upcoming, I also know of a good condo, the only good condo in sarakham and have the landlord on my line if you ever needed a condo too, really nice with a huge balcony, but yea essentially you to go the office your registered as living , dont take anything i say for fact though I know very little tbh just going off my experience from when I tried to go it in CM
Frederick *********
@Ryan ************
we are living in BKK at the moment, so I’m registered there. My partner of eleven yrs comes from M S. Just wondered if I could could do my extension here, if we ever decided to relocate permanently to Maha Sarakham.
Ryan *************
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@Steve ******
I get my visa stuff in Maha sarakham office, they barely speak any English, I was literally told “falang no need visa you are Steven Gerrard” lol, so yeah I’m kinda shitting it now as your right why didn’t they extend me then? And now I’m too late?
Frederick *********
@Ryan ************
do they have an immigration office at Maha Sarakham where you can get an extension of stay for your retirement visa.
Ryan *************
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@Frederick ********
they do have an immagration office yes, its quite small but the old chap in the office is a nice guy although very little english, I am not on a retirement visa so I could not answer that but I am sure they do as they do my none o extension, I was under the impression you do your visa stuff at the office in the city you are registered living at? so for example I once went to chaing mai for visa extension and was told I need to be at Sarakham, I am not 100% on your situation, i guess my sons registered at a sarakham school/house hence why I have go there might be different for you.
Ryan *************
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Simon wouldn’t mind but I’m not even a Liverpool fan or id probably take it as a compliment lol, dunno why any police check points etc it’s always “where you from” “England” “wayyyyyy Liverpool, Steven Gerrard” go go go lol
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