@Stuart ********
yes I went to Laos and got a Non-B through the Thai organization I work with then a workers permit and every year I have to go back out and get a new one, last year when I renewed I had to first go to turn in cancellation papers to cancel visa go to Cambodia boarder to switch to tourist visa (due to new requirement that said we had to cut our workers permit before getting new visa but now it has changed again and they won’t accept Cambodia boarder stamps) and now I will cut my visa for the second time but for good, I will switch to Non-O, but just trying to find the easiest option with less hassle lol