@Sefton *******

You miss the meaning of the word "taxable", and the pure simple fact that the DTA makes Australia (in my case) the sole taxation point. You place confidence in the Thai tax "experts", I place confidence in the official tax departments. Note the date! 😂😂

@Sefton *******

Yes - dual tax residency. And then having a permanent home under (a) means Australia is the sole (as in ONLY) taxation point. I have no permanent home in Thailand.

@Sefton *******

You really listen to this guy? Surely you cannot be so dumb not to see he's touting for business? The DTA clearly states "sole" - why hasn't the great Carl Turner addressed this in his "webinars" instead of continually ignoring this fact? Read section 3(a) of the DTA.and tell me which part of "solely of the contracting state....." you're not getting?

@Jim *********

Wrong. You can apply for EITHER a non-O or non-OA from an Embassy or Consulate

@Sefton *******

The DTA contains a formula for working out which residency prevails, in my case it's Australian. I don't know about others, as each individual has different circumstances. Australia has SOLE taxable rights. I have a certificate of tax residency from Australia, so it's confirmed by the ATO, it's not just me claiming it

@Sefton *******

Depends if you keep Australian Tax Residency. In that case it's not taxable in Thailand. To say it's "untaxed" is not quite true. Super contributions are taxed at 15% when they are paid in, and the Super Fund is taxed, the taxation comes from members funds. It's just the final amount which goes to the recipient doesn't have to be declared if the recipient is over 60. Good reason to retain Australian Tax Residency. So many tax perks

@Deepak ******

Can you indicate where you show non-assessable income?

@Greg *******

I've got one which I printed off the web. The one I have has no fields for non-assessable income and no fields for quoting DTAs.

@Deepak ******

Where does it state that on the tax return form? The tax return form only has spaces for "assessable income" which the pension is not, so there's actually nowhere to put it.

@Greg *******

That's my position. Fifteen years here, the rule change (delaying remittance until a later year) doesn't affect me, as I've always transferred pension money the same time I received it. Never had to get tax ID or file a return. As many countrys' DTAs state pensions only taxable in "country of residence" - I retain Australian Tax Residency - it wouldn't be taxable anyway. So my head is very firmly in the sand and will remain there until the Thai tax office issues clear instructions circulated amongst expat communities. There's a lot of doddery old farts out there never use the internet and have no idea of these changes. I can also see a clear "amnesty" for a year or so, until everything is settled and communicated.