Hmmmm, i'll be on my border run on the 10th July, so now not sure if I should go to Penang instead and renew my Visa 4 months premature - ohh no, that's not possible either ;-)

So,, I'll take my chances in November ;-)

Shayne Rochfort - Criteria for Volunteers or teachers are a complete different matter again. Not same paper work either.

Different criteria and paperwork to apply for extension then to get a new Visa abroad.

What's happen last year, I went to Penang to renew my NON-B in August but forgot my WP book.

Jim suggested I have it sent to me, fly back and get it or apply for a single NON-B but at a silly expensive price. So Thursday night I look in my Passport and see, my NON-B only expires on Friday. So came back on the same visa and got 3 months, then went back to Penang in November to get my new visa. That's why I'm now 6 months out of sync with my work permit and visa.

Now I do have my own company too but work for someone else, so not sure if that could make a difference.

We like to travel ;-)

Same reason as Julia, plenty of me but not enough of them :-)

Could it be, not used more than 8 months of your WP? e.g 4 months left?

Julia - only 5 - 6 months left Nov - May

WP renewed on the - 26 May 2015

1 year Non-B in Penang - 27 August 2015

WP renewed on the - 26 May 2016

1 year NON-B in Penang - 04 Nov 2016,

My WP renewed again - 26 May 2017

Although, not sure if I still would get it if I wait now until February to renew my Visa

My work permit is always been from onward for 1 year,

Whilst my yearly Visas where in May, the next year in August, then November, ....

Basically, I have 15 times Work Permit but only 12 times visa.

@Julia ***********

you just go to Penang and apply for a new 1 year NON-B. Your WP is still valid until the 16th August.

My WP and my Visa expiry dates are months apart, sometimes more, sometimes less but never had a problem. Then when your back, you get your WP renewed