@Angelo **********

you earn under 150,000 baht per year?

@Mateusz ******

The core issue is the DTV doesn’t lead to anything. It’s a bandaid, not a cure.

@Roberto ******

yeah I know. I didn’t say it was the funnest option.

@Rob ********

Well that’s my thoughts, I think the schools will be more scrutinised than the actual ‘workers’ as the point of the visa was for workers. At some embassy’s the person said: “why aren’t you getting the education visa” (from memory). This visa just seems like a glitch in the matrix.

And I mean, if you can just go in with an employment contract and a passport photo (proper one, as that’s what I was sent away for) and whatever else they ask and it’s just done, then yeah, no school fees, no visa agents, no BS just done for 5 years.

They have said in a video they’re going to check details later, which I don’t think anyone’s done yet. But say in 2 years you’re no longer training at that gym, I personally would be nervous going through immigration, whereas just hold onto your employment contract and I would forsee less problems, plus don’t have to pay for the school.

@Imran **************

Appreciate your input though, thanks man. anything which improves the performance of the site is my goal. I want it to be ‘cool’. Like lighting fast, top security, fraud and performance protocols. Our key metrics currently are site speed, search performance and accuracy of listing data. Was just thinking totally different. Need to take others points of view and concerns into account too though. So thanks.

@Imran **************

I can appreciate the concern a bit more now. Seems like an understanding guy.

Will action next week to try to understand the issues service providers are facing not just from the nomad’s point of view as I have been doing.

But it is one of the core goals of the site and me personally, to help and highlight legitimate services and empower them. While filtering out and detecting fraud. So the goal’s are aligned.

Need to somehow make that more clear and articulate though.

Josh Harris Most agents don’t want to list their prices. Is a big part of the goal of the project to have more clear pricing and transparency of visas but also the agents fees, so can be filtered. Am still considering how to go about this but feel like it’s: “they will because they have to” not because they want to. They can remain more unfair and charge timid people more, dominant people less, which I don’t like if prices are not advertised. Should be uniform and fair in my opinion. But is up to them if they make it public. By adding a filter element to the search, they will just not be included if they don’t add prices. I think that’s good enough.

@Max *******

They have been removed and we will stick to the regular verification process moving forward.

@Alessandro ********

Yeah, but airbnb had to start somewhere. My goal is not to promote visa agencies. It is to prevent fraud and collate all the visa options globally. And I am not competition for them or passing their services off as my own as least not attempting to. If that’s not clear is a design flaw which will be addressed.

I am giving them a free service by making the listing and of course then plan to contact them as to whether they want to use it or not.

I don’t see any down side for them, the listing directs straight to their website and they pay nothing, so is purely just free advertising (for now as that is obviously unsustainable).

But if I have nothing to show, they’re just simply going to say: “why? what’s the point” more effectively to just show: “here it is”. Not the cheapest/fastest way, but at least they can see exactly the point immediately and decide.

Airbnb used to offer something similar and actually took your photos for you and help you make the listing, then stopped as they got bigger and didn’t need to.

There is of course a tipping point where people find you as opposed to you finding them.

So I mean, yeah, could take your timid: “ask and beg” approach. But I just don’t really care. They’re not going to see value until they have had a few referrals anyway and I clearly say: “unverified, if you own this, send us a message” so we are not and not attempting to pass of like we own listings that have not confirmed their details.

Dude, this is a huge project and even how much time to allocate to each visa agency when we have hundreds, soon probably thousands and dozens of countries will need to be figured out. Especially as we are pre revenue.

But I appreciate the feedback. Have actioned making sure all unverified listings are linking to the owners website as a current top priority.

And ch om pu is no longer listed so we no longer recommend her services as she is unverified and we can’t confirm if they are a legitimate business which is totally fine. We will stick to the normal verification process moving forward.