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What is the process for 90-day reporting for DTV visa holders in Thailand?

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Sep 21, 2024
a year ago
Neil ******
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Just entered Thailand on my DTV from Manchester. Online full check in was not available, I could pick my seat but it instructed me to go to the desk for boarding passes, even the little machines before the desk would not allow it. The girl on check in hadn’t seen the dtv before but she just typed in the visa number and it was not an issue.

On arrival in Phuket my passport was stamped for 180 days, but after me asking the immigration officer said I have to report to the immigration office at 90 days.

It’s not a problem doing that but if people are coming for the first time they may not be aware of the 90 day reporting
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The discussion revolves around the requirements for 90-day reporting and TM30 registration for DTV visa holders in Thailand. Upon entering Thailand with a DTV visa, individuals must report to an immigration office every 90 days, and their accommodation must file a TM30 to confirm their residence. Many expats emphasize the importance of understanding these rules as first-time visitors may not be aware of them. There are varying opinions on the necessity and enforcement of these requirements, with some sharing personal experiences and advice on managing the processes.
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After my 2 tourist visas are finished I will go to Cambodia.

F*** Thailand's visa system, I'll go where my money is wanted.
a year ago
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Mike ********
Do you think the DTV will ensure you can progress other items such as Bank Account, renting an apartment - I hope some rental places will consider 6 months lets Vs 1 year or I can rent 1 year and find others to use the times a long term place is empty - 100% want to comply with all the rules. Will be in Phuket early October, appreciate any advice. will you use Phuket as your long term DTV base ?
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Rok ********
@Mike *******
 no landlord will ask you for a visa; a month rent in advance and 2 months deposit is all they are interested. As for banks - you may need to see quite a few before one will give you a bank account. Immigration letter of residence is important but after that each bank is differently fussy; one branch rejected me as the lease pages were signed by just one person not both as on the lease. Other had a problem with surname being before the first name on the lease and the immigration letter. 3rd time lucky as the clerk wanted to finish for the day just before closing time. Easiest route is an agent, a 30 min job for any visa.
a year ago
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Evelina ******
@Mike *******
 in case you need a base for a week or a month while house-hunting, I have a newly renovated flat in Phuket town available until mid November.
a year ago
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마리오 ***
Mike Cooper I’ve rented several condos and villas over the years after entering as a tourist - not a single landlord or agent ever inquired as to my visa status. All they wanted/needed was a copy of my passport bio page for the TM.30 reporting.
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Kevin *******
I'm clueless about the 90 day reporting thing. How does it work? You just show up at the nearest immigration and show them your passport? Do you have to fill up a form?
a year ago
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Jeff *******
Every Immigration office has different rules. In CM, the first one has to be done in person.
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Chad ********
@Kevin ******
 it can be done online too, but sometimes the system goes down.
a year ago
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Mar *****
Does anyone know what the actual offence is ie (criminal or civil) if you missed or didn't do a 90 day report or is it just a fine ....?!?

Tia
a year ago
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Paul *******
@Mar ****
 In the specific case of the DTV, as long as you don't need to use immigration for anything and assuming you always do a border run and don't extend in country, I don't see how this can be enforced.

Andi mentioned through the new ETA system (although that's only for visa exempt travelers) but it supposedly comes with a comprehensive new surveillance apparatus

That's a possible way, but if it applies, it hasn't been implemented yet.

What I'm saying is that up until now, enforcement of the 90 day report has been done purely by your immigration office and that pertains to those on extensions of stay.

This visa will be an interesting case study to see whether it changes but I suspect until a new enforcement system is in place, in practice anyway, nothing will happen because immigration officers at the border aren't interested in TM30s or TM47s.
a year ago
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Andi ***********
@Mar ****
 you have 7 days after the deadline and if you do not do it within those 7days you have to pay 2000THB.
a year ago
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Ron ********
@Andi **********
 they do have discretion w most things if your honest and your owner or something just missed happened to me they said the owner should pay 1600 baht but I would need to pay if I didn't want to wait, of course im the farang so I Pay
a year ago
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Mar *****
@Andi **********
 how soon before can you go a few weeks ...?
a year ago
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Andi ***********
@Mar ****
 You can report it 2 weeks before the 90 days is up.
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Florence ************
My husband keeps saying if they don’t tell him at the immigration when we enter then they are not doing their job. I believe when staying for a long time in a country it’s up to each individual to do their research of what is required of them.
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@Florence ***********
 haha, make sure to tell the IO that when you go through immigration.
a year ago
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Florence ************
@마리오 **
 haha yes probably not 😊
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Steve *******
Easiest way just before 90 days have a day trip to a neighbouring country ?
a year ago
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Jeff *******
@Steve ******
 Depends where you are. printing and filling out the form takes about 3 minutes. My last 90 day report took 30 seconds. Most time consuming part was finding a blue pen.
a year ago
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Wayne ******************
Every day is a school day. Thanks chaps 👍🏿
a year ago
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Nadeem ********
Interesting, I’ve just gone through a DTV online application and there was no mention of 90 day reporting. Should I have seen it during this process?

Also, on the TM30 point. Can I not complete 90 day reporting without a TM30?
a year ago
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Andi ***********
@Nadeem *******
 DTV does not detail the 90-day process as it is not part of embassys duites. 90-day reporting is part of Thai immigration. Need the tm30 for the report
a year ago
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Keith ************
@Andi **********
 ymmv but generally you must do the 90 day report in person the first time and possibly the first time after you re-enter the country.
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@Andi **********
 They should really make it a 180 day report. Why do LTR visa holders get a 12 month reporting privilege but DTV holders are supposedly required to do 90 day reporting?

Unless you're actually intending on using immigration services, you could easily bypass the reporting and nothing will happen to you.

What I mean by this is, if you're using your embassy for certificates of residency and you plan to do border runs every 180 days...you'll never interact with an immigration office. Only border immigration and they don't care about 90 day reports or TM30s.
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Andi ***********
@Paul ******
 THE LTR is for the wealthy, so the 12mth reporting is a small incentive. Need to invest like 500K in Thai bonds, have 1mill in asstes for the 10 yr visa. Yes, you do not need to do the report, with travel overseas within 90 days
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@Andi **********
 Right.

Anyway, what I'm suggesting is they should make the reporting 180 days. That would make sense.

I still don't see how they'll enforce the 90 day reporting requirement unless you're going in for 180 day extensions. Then of course, they will.
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Andi ***********
@Paul ******
 The 90 days is the legal requirement for foreign residents but i get what you are saying about the 180 day reporting. Yes, can not be enforced unless you go into immigration for the extension. lm not sure if the new ETA system from Dec will alert immigration to 90-day non reporters .
a year ago
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@Andi **********
 Good point, that could be. However, the ETA is only for visa-exempt travelers so probably won't and can't be used in this case.
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Andi ***********
@Paul ******
 "The initiative aims to enhance visitor management and national security" . I think the system will show when you entered and when you leave so if stopped they should be able to find out if you have done a 90 day report.
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@Andi **********
 OK. The system may be more comprehensive than I've been led to believe. Thanks for sharing. I'll look into it, but more information will likely be forthcoming as we get closer to the implementation date.
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Andi ***********
@Paul ******
 I think there will be more details about extending the DTV soon as the 6mth mark is coming up of its release. The 90 day report can be done online, so not too troublesome if needed.
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@Andi **********
 Yes online or via mail (post).
a year ago
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Nadeem ********
@Paul ******
 that’s an interesting way to look at it. Our intention is to enter, stay for 180 days (no multiple entry) and leave. I would prefer not to have to travel to an immigration centre for 90 day reporting…
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Gerry ********
@Nadeem *******
 do it online...
a year ago
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Paul *******
@Nadeem *******
 agreed.
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Tod *********
Good to hear an immigration officer (the people who actually RUN 90 day reporting inside the country) tell you DTV visa holders DO file 90 day reports like everyone else (y) (y)

As opposed to a clueless embassy worker (who just sells visas outside thailand) telling people they don't 😛
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Neil ******
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@Tod ********
 yes tod, i asked the london embassy who issued the dtv the question before i flew and they told me to ask immigration
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Tod *********
@Neil *****
 that is great that an embassy actually told you that (y)

enjoy your visa, well done 🙂
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Graham *******
yeah, I have tried to warn people about checking on this, thanks for the confirmation. Are you aware that if u stay in private accommodation you will have to create a TM30 somehow?
a year ago
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Tim ********
Gerry can help you. He knows everything
a year ago
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Tod *********
Yep, TM30 is something people need to be aware of as well
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Paul *******
@Tod ********
 In practice, not necessary unless you have a need to interact with your immigration office. If you're leaving every 90 days and able to get a certificate of residency from your embassy then in practice, whether you've filed a TM30 or not doesn't matter.
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@Paul ******
 B*llocks
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Tod *********
@Paul ******
 well spotted, but now more and more offices are requiring a TM30 to do a 90 day report 🙂
a year ago
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@Tod ********
Aha I see.
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@Graham ******
 no. The owner legally has to create it for you.
a year ago
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Tim ********
@Graham ******
 you can’t make your own TM30.
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Jim ***********
@Tim *******
 TM30 easy get. Stay hotel 1 night check in passport job done. That's ur address for TM30. Some owners don't pay tax don't declare property so can't TM30 for you. Always ways round everything here
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@Jim **********
 ok
a year ago
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Gerry ********
@Tim *******
 many long termers do it regularly. (every 90 days).

Many landlords aren't interested in their responsibility, since the blame is all on the resident/occupant. It happens, like many things, without eyebrows being raised.
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@Tim *******
 yes you can on line as long as the house owner supplies the documents required to register the property. My landlady did and I registered in her name but with log in details I know so I can do it myself whenever required. She us quite happy with that as she no longer gets pestered by me to do it 2 or 3 times a month!
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@Tim *******
 i made mine for my condo.
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Tim ********
@Graham ******
 ok.
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@Tim *******
 yes, but many times they don't as most land lords do not want to declare the rent for income tax reason, you must chase this up not have TM30 is an issue for many things like bank accounts and licenses. Also, you cannot do a 90-day report without a valid tm30. No 90 day report means a fine and if the police catch you its detention.
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@Graham ******
 why you keep on lying? There is no police checking 90 days reports, there is no detention if you not do. So stop telling people lies. The same about your tax dream. No one on tourist visa and who doesn't work in Thailand has to pay income tax
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@Siggi ******
 He makes up these imaginary scenarios all the time. He is a fraud. Ignore the little man. We have invited him to share his views in FCUK bar in Pattaya next Friday where he claims he resides
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Greg ********
@Graham ******
 If the police catch you and late for 90 days reporting it is detention. Banks and TM30? Do you sit and dream up these scenarios yourself.
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@Greg *******
 How can I be late for a 90 day report if i am not in the country? When I leave, I get a re-entry permit and I do a new TM30 with my blue book.
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@Graham ******
 just tell us about the tax again please, go on, just one more time.
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Greg ********
@James ******
 He seems to swing between tax and hating the DTV these days. Like angry grandad from The Simpsons. He has been chuntering on about tax for months and now states he will never be liable for it as he does not stay over 180 days. Walter Mitty on steroids that bloke.
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Tim ********
@Greg *******
 who does?
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Wayne ******************
It's a liberty that 90 day reporting as I haven't seen it specified anywhere. Unless that Immigration Officer isn't clear about the DTV.
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Ron ********
@Wayne *****************
 there will definitely be reporting, question is on office discretion or preference for each region, whether you have to show up every 60 days or every 90 cause it's good for 180 so I'm guessing renewal after 180? Idk
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@Wayne *****************
 The issue is the DTV is from MFA and Immigration entry, extension TM30 and 90 day etd. I suspect the 2 do not talk :-)
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Tod *********
it's not the immigration office that isn't clear about 90 day reporting on the DTV
@Wayne *****************
. 😛

It's clueless people ON the DTV's who don't understand that just because it's not mentioned doesn't mean it doesn't appy 😮

Here's screen grab from 3 weeks ago when a DTV holder (Ibrahim Alam) messaged immigrations
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@Tod ********
 piunt it Tod, if it was in the detail it would stop the topic, stop the emails, stop the phone calls, stop the fines and take away the risk of loss of visa, it's very simple to add it to the rules.
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Wayne ******************
@Tod ********
 daaaaaamn. I'm sure that could be part of the stipulations on the email the DTV arrives on. It's not that hard 🙄 I only wanted this as it makes me fume going up to Immy Office. Cheers
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@Wayne *****************
 why would it be on the email that the you get about the visa?

The visa is issued by the embassy/consulate thru the ministry of foreign affairs.

They have nothing to do with anything inside the country once you get the visa.

Stamping in, stamping out, 90 day report, extension that's all handled by the thai immigration division of the royal thai police
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Wayne ******************
@Tod ********
 why not have joined up thinking so that everyone has the chance of staying within the rules and getting it right first time? Just a thought, but thank you.
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@Wayne *****************
 or you could take responsibility for finding out the requirements and your responsibilities in the country you are entering?
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Wayne ******************
@John *********
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@Wayne *****************
 90 day reporting is the standard situation for any visa that allows you to stay over 90 days.
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@Wayne *****************
 "its a liberty"? This is Thailand you ned to follow the rules. Don't forget to get tax id number, you gonna need that also.
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Andy ************
@Graham ******
 Last thing you do is get a Tax ID! Nobody in their right mind volunteers to make themselves a possible target. Stay under the radar is my philosophy!
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@Andy ***********
 yes, I agree we are waiting to see if any enforcement measures are introduced before we act on anything.
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Andy ************
@Graham ******
 Enforcement measures? Like the enforcement measures carried out by immigration against dodgy "agency" visas? 😂😂😂. I won't be holding my breath! 😂
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@Andy ***********
 Totally agree. I think a lot of people will leave if this taxation things gets enforced and then the Thai government will relax the measures as they need our money.
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@Andy ***********
 neither am I. You are forgetting something we have a new government, different from those of the past. Who knows for sure what they will do. Enforcement would come from the tax office via the banks etc. and would have nothing to do with immigration You can see already that the banks send u an SMS when a deposit is made they can easy extend that to the RD.
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Andy ************
@Graham ******
 I don't get an SMS when my monthly deposit is made. I think all transactions over 50k are already reported, have been for a couple of years, but the tax office knows these transfers have already paid tax, so they're not concerned about them. The 300 baht they'll be getting from every ETA after December will keep them more than happy! 😂
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@Andy ***********
 100%. Also, what's the point if it's not enforced? Also, for the DTV I can't see how they could possibly enforce it, provided you're doing border runs or leaving at the end of each 180 days then coming back at some future date.
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@Graham ******
 I bet you dream about Thailand TINs in your Chang stupor
a year ago
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Paul *******
@Graham ******
 Tax ID number isn't needed. You're not working in Thailand.
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@Paul ******
 wrong
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@Graham ******
 right. Anyway, why are you going on and on about tax in this group? Go over to Expats Thailand to discuss tax matters. This is the DTV group.
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@Paul ******
 Correction it's about the DTV holders and the successful use of such, that involves 90-day reporting, TM30 ,TIN, residence certificate, driving license etc.
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@Graham ******
 A DTV holder is only a temporary visitor. They don't need Tax ID, resident certificate or driver's licence. They're really nothing more than a long-staying tourist. They don't even need a bank account
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@Andy ***********
 All visas are temporary that's why they are called visas and not residence permits, all visas have an expiry date. I would imagine many will want to get a driving license so they will need a resident certificate and therefore a TM30. The DTV is not a tourist visa, if they are resident for 180 days or more, they will need a TIN. Yes, they do not need bank accounts but having one will make life much easier, up to them to decide. The point of your post was what exactly.
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@Graham ******
 The fact that a DTV holder can stay in Thailand without the need to have a Tax ID, certificate of residency, driver's licence, blue book, yellow book, green book, purple book, pink card, bank account and any other worthless piece of paper. A DTV holder simply border bounces and starts the whole process again. You obviously know absolutely ZERO about Double Tax Agreements.
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@Andy ***********
 180 day or more then they need a mandatory tax id. TM30 and a 90-day report are also mandatory. The other docs issued by TH gov are not worthless, up to the individual. You are giving very dangerous advice to people who do not know better. Here are the DTA.
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@Graham ******
 Yes you need to read it. Especially the bit about determining which residency prevails if a person has dual tax residency. All those rainbow coloured books and cards are not worth a f**t. I've lived in Thailand for 15 years and survived without any of them, and still drive on my Aussie licence. I guess you're one of these expats who gets a fuzzy warm feeling over your rainbow books! 😂😂😂
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@Andy ***********
 there are 61 DTA everyone is different. 180 days or more for Thailand. So, you are under the RADAR in hiding, what have you done?
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Andy ************
@Graham ******
 Under the radar to negate the need to get a Thai tax ID. Unlike you, I don't have orgasms over getting another meaningless piece of Thai bureaucracy! I've paid my taxes already. Box ticked
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@Andy ***********
Well Actually, I am under the radar by being here less than 180 days. If I come permanently, I will do it via the new LTR. The new gov rules might just untick your box. let's wait and see, a new broom sweeps clean.
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Andy ************
@Graham ******
 You're obviously very frightened. But never mind. I've paid my taxes, so I'm guessing you haven't so it's little wonder you're running in fear! 😂😂😂
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@Andy ***********
 well, I am not running in fear. I have a capital gain next year with a very low tax bill in the source country would give rise to a 30% tax bill in Thailand so yeah, I am going to use a tax avoidance tactic (same as you), that is be resident in Philippines which does not tax foreigners on their foreign income. 😁😁😁😁😁
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@Graham ******
 My avoidance tactic is even easier than yours. I retain tax residency in Australia, which means I pay a big fat zero in Thailand. Brilliant huh?
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@Andy ***********
 Make sure you have the docs to claim that status. Just saying it probably won't work, as of today nobody knows what's docs they will accept.
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@Graham ******
 Nothing required unless someone is audited, and easy enough to get a letter from my accountant.
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@Andy ***********
 The Thai tax office will require docs from the Australian tax office and not a crooked accountant.
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Andy ************
@Graham ******
 Crooked accountant? Like those you keep pushing in these threads? 😂😂😂😂. If I'm ever audited (highly unlikely) I'm happy to provide my annual tax assessment which shows I pay tax 😂😂😂
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@Andy ***********
 Glad to hear it. BTW I have no connection to Carl Turner, we simply us his vids and others as the start point to understand the law without have to pay for it. Simply showing you pay tax in Australia is no proof of residency. If you are resident in Thailand for 180 days, you tax in Thailand. I can see many holes in this method of tax evasion, there are many Australians claiming it, I think they will target Australians for audit, remember the fine if 200%.
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Andy ************
@Graham ******
 Doubt it. The Thai Tax Office would look at the DTA first. Very easy for Aussies to retain Australian Tax Residency, in which case Aussie Tax Office gets the dollars!! 😂😂😂
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Graham *******
@Andy ***********
 Tax residency yes. The ETA which is being trialed on Australians will give the first test of Tax residency, will be automatic. After that you will need to appeal your case.
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Andy ************
@Graham ******
 ETA is for visa exempt entries. You're way behind the eight ball. 😂😂😂
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@Andy ***********
 To be extended to all, currently just a trial.
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@Graham ******
 Wrong again! But it's irrelevant anyway. The ETA has nothing to do with a Double Tax Treaty! Big win for AUSTRALIA!! 🦘 🦘
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@Andy ***********
 The ETA and everything around it which is coming is to circumvent the corruption within Immigration. ETA gives the tax office an electronic record of your arrivals and departures. So, when you exceed 180 days, the Tax office will be looking for a tax return. You can argue your cases from there. Just because you got away with it this year, don't me they are not looking for you. We still need info on how far back in time they will go when someone is audited.
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Andy ************
@Graham ******
 Immigration already has a record of arrivals and departures. The ETA is a mechanism for visa exempt entries to pay the 300 baht tourism tax. People with current visas/extensions won't need an ETA. The DTA will actually determine who is a tax resident of Thailand or of another country. Only one residency is applicable, as double taxation is not applicable. You should have asked your accountant mate - he would have told you - or maybe not as he's out to scam people!
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@Andy ***********
 Carl, employs his own CPA's. DTA do not determine tax residency, they only show which taxes paid can be deducted against Thai tax, the day count from antiquated stamps is used, this cannot be automated. Instead, they will extend the ETA to cover all entries and departures. Once the magical 180 days is passed people will be deemed tax resident and will be required to submit a return which will be online soon. Zero tax paid in Thailand will be one flag for audit.
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@Graham ******
 Shows just how little you actually know. Try reading section 3(a) of the Australian DTA and focus on that magic word "solely"! Game, Set and Match AUSTRALIA!!!
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Fine, if you are resident 180 days in Thailand you cannot be resident in Australia. You're just claiming to be, you will be flagged for audit for no return or no tax paid. Who knows what proof you will need to prove you were actually in Australia, having settled a tax claim in Australia does not mean you fail the Thai residency test. Soo many will try to claim this and will probably fail.
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@Graham ******
 You're still missing the word "solely". A person with dual tax residency is tested on the DTA. Australia wins! No matter what you or your buddy Carl says. Happy to be audited. I'll send a copy of the DTA! But both you and I know I won't be audited! 😂😂😂
a year ago
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@Andy ***********
 you have to satisfy the test and currently we do not know how they will police this or any other request for exemption. Many of these will end up in court because they are ambiguous and difficult to claim.
a year ago
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@Graham ******
 Nothing ambiguous about the Australian DTA. Easy to prove tax residency in Australia. Other countries may have difficulty but Australia as always, is the winner!
a year ago
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@Graham ******
 Those things are mostly related to general immigration matters.

As you can probably tell, while it's OK to ask a question like: "can i receive a 5 year license while on a DTV visa", for the most part, we're interested in how to apply for a DTV and the requirements at particular consulates.
a year ago
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@Paul ******
 He goes on and on and on and on about Tax ID in every group. He hasn't quite got it that he's the only person melting down about it. The rest of us know the Tax Office doesn't give a hoot about expats who have already paid tax on their money. He's even telling tourists who are in the country more than 180 days that they'll need a Tax ID too. I just ROFL at his comments!
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@Andy ***********
 I ROFL at his comments too. It's pure fear mongering and largely irrelevant to this group. I wish people would discuss more pertinent issues such as which consulates have financial "seasoning" requirements and such. Far more important and the purpose of this group.
a year ago
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@Paul ******
 over 180 days need tax number wether working or not us criteria. But so far nobody has one 😅 This is 🇹🇭
a year ago
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@Jim **********
 Just discussing this. We reckon about 2% max of people who should have a TIN actually have one ie tax resident in Thailand as here more than 180 in a tax year. Unless tax returns are linked to visa issuance ie show your tax return and all payments before you get your yearly renewal etc, there will not be much take up of it. As you say "This Is Thailand"
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@Greg *******
 yip my ex has hair salon remember covid times government were giving them grants. They had no idea who she was never paid tax 😅 only way can affect us is renewal time. Carry on regardless until then 😅
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@Jim **********
 They won't be targetting the majority of expats. Possibly condo owners who rent their properties out will get the third degree, but those who just transfer the 65k each month are off the table. They know tax has already been paid elsewhere
a year ago
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@Jim **********
 Yes, some tax offices won't even issue one if you're not working in Thailand. This is Thailand as they say.
a year ago
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@Paul ******
 think I read somewhere person went around many offices all refused them. Thailand doesn't have personal process us all I think.
a year ago
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@Graham ******
 I've, just responded to the above comment, but I would also put that to you as well, cheers.
a year ago
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@Wayne *****************
 Ignore Graham. He is a bedwetter. Like an old woman.
a year ago
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@Greg *******
 Ignore Greg he is a ring piece whistler worried over his fake Singapore invoicing. I do not need a TIN as I am and never will be resident for 180 day.
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@Graham ******
 Fake Singapore invoicing You are making things up again. You alkie bar room bore. See you!
a year ago
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@Greg *******
 They give you the cane so watch out.
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@Graham ******
"I do not need a TIN as I am and never will be resident for 180 day."

why are you so heavily invested in talking about TIN and tax issues then? It's rather weird.
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@Gerry *******
 because many DTV holders are virgin expats and are unaware of 90-day reports, TM30 and TIN's. They need to know the laws
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@Graham ******
 if you are not a Thailand-based expat or TIN holder, why do you care if others are aware of their exposure to tax law?

I agree about the 90 day reporting/TM30 stuff, but that has nothing to do with tax responsibilities.
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@Gerry *******
 Because many here do not know the current rules and will land in big trouble. I own a condo and have 12-moth extension of stay, I am here less than 180 days as I have Philippines SRRV, If I give this up, I will live in TH with LTR if this is the best way forward for us.
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@Graham ******
 fair enough. I think many will find trouble, whether it's visa or tax issues, but this group is about the DTV, NOT TAX.

The DTV has no effect on the tax responsibilities of anyone, so let's please stop talking about it in this group.
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@Gerry *******
 He is all over the place with his stories and mad up scenarios. Been bedwetting for months about tax and now stating he does not stay over 180 days in Thailand. Walter Mitty this bloke.
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@Graham ******
 I just needed a convenient, less stressful means for longer stays (over
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days). Doubt I'd ever stay longer than 4 months at a time tbf.
a year ago
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@Wayne *****************
 90 day is easy. Can got to Tinnies for a pie after the to Pantry for supplies.
a year ago
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@Greg *******
 normally go to that Lebanese gaff after I've been up there for my photo 😁
a year ago
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@Wayne *****************
 you get 60 days and can renew for another 30- days, if u need more border bounce.
a year ago
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@Graham ******
 Are you trying to teach Wayne about Thai Visas etc.
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a year ago
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@Greg *******
 will tell you I'm too much of a diva for all day van jobs 😂
a year ago
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@Wayne *****************
 We leave that to peasants like Walter Mitty ie Graham. He should come to FCUK for killer pool one Friday. We can have a laugh at his tall tales.
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@Wayne *****************
 The 90 day reporting has been in place for years for foreign residents staying 90 days consecutively. It is for the vast majority of visa holders Inc DTV.
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@Andi **********
 yes maybe so for those that are ITK. When applying for these new visas for new markets: where's the information so everyone is correctly informed?

So, if you can point me towards a link to this information (and where it includes DTV as it maybe just for legacy visa types) I'll take a read up on it. Thanks, as my DTV arrived in my email this morning.
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@Wayne *****************
 exactly
a year ago
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Todd *********
@Wayne *****************
 what would make you think that DTV would be exempt? It’s merely wishful thinking by the generally uninformed
a year ago
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Andreas *********
@Wayne *****************
 you don't need any extra informations - the law says that EVERY foreigner who stays inside Thailand longer than 90 consecutive days, has to do the 90-days report. This law is completely independent from any visa catagory, it doesn't matter which visa or which stay permit you are on.
a year ago
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@Wayne *****************
 - It has nothing to do with the DTV visa, but a requirement for residing in Thailand. DTV information is going to just tell you about DTV related details
a year ago
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@Wayne *****************
 it has not been stated In the DTV info so many are not aware. There is a lot of info on FB about the 90 day reporting, you can search the threads. Check Thai immigration website for foreign residents. It is only if you stay 90 days in a row, if you leave and return within 90 days don't need to do it. As others mentioned which many don't know, you pay tax if you stay more than 180 days.
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@Andi **********
 you'd think a couple of bullet points or a paragraph as part of the issuance email stating these requirements wouldn't be unhelpful or even as part of the acceptance criteria before you submit the app. Thanks for the heads up. I don't normally join these groups so I wonder what I'd be walking into if I didn't join this one. Thanks for taking the time to comment 👍🏿
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@Wayne *****************
 you'd think, but T.I.T.
a year ago
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@Wayne *****************
 Agreed, more info should have been given about post arrival in Thailand regarding 90 days and tax implications.
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Many folks have no idea about the 90 day reporting, so thanks for your useful post.
a year ago
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Tod *********
you should also have your landlord or where ever you stay file a TM30 to show you're registered as staying at that location 🙂
a year ago
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Ron ********
@Tod ********
 oh ya that's a big one and I have to do myself every time the forgot I was fined 1600 baht one time
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