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What are the immigration reporting requirements for DTV visa holders in Thailand?
Sep 14, 2024
2 years ago
Matt *********
ORIGINAL POSTERI just arrived on DTV which was finally granted in the Nick of time.
Couple of questions for the group.
1) if I move hotels, or get a condo, does that mean I have to tell immigration via some form?
Someone said something about a TM30…
2) at this point I’m heading to the USA for a couple of weeks in December, departing 94 days after my initial arrival in Thailand.. does that mean I have to do a 90 day report before I leave?
3) what’s the official website for filing this 90 day report (if needed)? I don’t want to end up at some scam page.
DTV documentation was really just a printout with no guidelines about on-going requirements so it’s a bit hard to find info.
Thousand thanks.
Couple of questions for the group.
1) if I move hotels, or get a condo, does that mean I have to tell immigration via some form?
Someone said something about a TM30…
2) at this point I’m heading to the USA for a couple of weeks in December, departing 94 days after my initial arrival in Thailand.. does that mean I have to do a 90 day report before I leave?
3) what’s the official website for filing this 90 day report (if needed)? I don’t want to end up at some scam page.
DTV documentation was really just a printout with no guidelines about on-going requirements so it’s a bit hard to find info.
Thousand thanks.
TLDR : Answer Summary
The discussion centers around whether a holder of the DTV visa must report their address changes (TM30) and participate in the 90-day reporting requirement in Thailand. A TM30 form is generally required when changing residences, typically managed by the hotel or landlord. The 90-day report, necessitated every 90 days of stay, should initially be filed in person at a local immigration office, though there is some debate about whether DTV holders are exempt from this requirement. Conflicts arise regarding the official stance, with some claiming DTV holders do not need to report, while others argue that all foreign nationals must comply with the 90-day rule. The thread highlights confusion among new DTV visa holders and emphasizes the importance of verifying immigration requirements directly with immigration authorities.
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Henrik *****
Best to ask again just before you get to 90 days, since nobody has done it yet, nobody will know excactly how the things will evolve.
David ************
Personally at no point during my DTV application process and the granting of the visa was I directed to, made aware of or directly informed about any requirements about reporting my whereabouts during my stay.
Matt *********
ORIGINAL POSTER@David ***********
neither did I but then after a google search, it became even more unclear.David ************
@Matt ********
can’t trust googleMatt *********
ORIGINAL POSTERDavid ************
@Matt ********
can’t trust them either 🤣Reply to
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Matt *********
ORIGINAL POSTERI certainly opened a can of worms on this one (totally unintentional).
The visa is still very new as someone mentioned in one of the posts, which makes sense that there’s a bit of confusion surrounding it all.
At the end of the day, it’s their country, their laws and their immigration rules so whatever needs to be done, needs to be done.
The visa is still very new as someone mentioned in one of the posts, which makes sense that there’s a bit of confusion surrounding it all.
At the end of the day, it’s their country, their laws and their immigration rules so whatever needs to be done, needs to be done.
@Nicole ***************
that video you posted was very helpful btw ! Thanks for posting!!Alex *********
We really need to get a solid, 100% confirmed answer to the DTV 90-day reporting question. Who would be the best source to answer the question? Is it the immigration officials in Chang Watthana?
Nicole ****************
@Alex ********
the video I posted in this thread answers all of the questions and comes directly from the head consulate who created the visa. There is no requirement of 90 day reporting for DTV holdersFlorence ************
@Nicole ***************
they are not immigration. And there is no mention in this video about the 90 days report. The question is not asked. The fact that nothing is said about it doesn’t mean it doesn’t have to be done. It means nothing is said in this video about it.Nicole ****************
@Florence ***********
I have friends that are already here on the visa and they were not told to report 90 days. It is still a tourist visa not an LTR.Florence ************
@Nicole ***************
they have not been there for long enough. And I believe we are not always told when entering but it’s on us as visitors of a country to know what our duties are. We can also say I was not told I needed a visa before entering. You look it up you do your research. Every foreigner staying more than 90 days needs to report. It’s the lawGarrett ***********
@Nic***
I understand you think you know what you're talking about, but you don't. So stop misinforming people.Nicole ****************
@Garrett **********
please, enlighten.me with your knowledge on the subject...Garrett ***********
@Nic***
I did, as did many people in this thread.Reply to
Garrett ***********
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Garrett ***********
@Nic***
Consulates don't create visas...Nicole ****************
@Garrett **********
Google the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and look up exactly what they do…one of those is the creation of visas.Garrett ***********
@Nic***
So it wasn't a consulat that created the visa then?Nicole ****************
@Garrett **********
yes, the man in the video is the Deputy Director General of Consular affairs.Reply to
Nicole ****************
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Nicole ****************
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Stuart *********
@Nicole ***************
despite the title of the video it is NOT the “truth” about DTVs at all.Reply to
Stuart *********
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Ali ******
When I applied for and received the DTV, nowhere did I see a need to report every 90 days. Can someone point to where this requirement is officially stated?
Nicole ****************
@Ali *****
you are correct. DTV holders do not report 90 daysTore *********
@Nicole ***************
that isn’t true. The YouTube video you keep posting doesn’t supersede thai immigration law. And that’s not a immigration official in the videoNicole ****************
@Tore ********
you are correct, the ministry of foreign affairs is not immigration, they create the visas that immigration enforces. We will not know for sure until mid October if the holders of the DTV will have to do a 90 day report. It is still, essentially, a tourist visa and according to the 90 day reporting clause, since they are not staying in the country for more than 12 months on a marriage, work or retirement visa, they do not have to report. They did say in the video that it is a tourist visa.
Nicole ****************
@Tore ********
ummm yes it is...he created the visaTore *********
@Nicole ***************
Can you please stop spreading incorrect information in this group!Reply to
Tore *********
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Tore *********
@Ali *****
Any foreigner without permanent residency has to file it regardless of type of visa….Jo **********
@Tore ********
not the LTRTore *********
@Jo *********
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Nicole ****************
@Tore ********
the DTV is not a LTR visa.Tore *********
@Nicole ***************
As for DTV, despite a random YT video, the law is very clear. All foreign needs to submit 90 day report, or face 2K baht fine when exiting. No exemption has been made for DTV. Even elite visa holders submit 90 day reportTore *********
@Nicole ***************
never did I say that. I replied to someone claiming LTR doesn’t require 90 day reporting….Jo **********
@Tore ********
ok I looked but cannot see TM30Tore *********
@Jo *********
90 day reporting isn’t the same as TM30. But TM30 also mandatoryJo **********
@Tore ********
i know the difference but TM30 is not mentionedTore *********
@Jo *********
accord to Boi website you are wrong….Reply to
Tore *********
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Nicole ****************
This video explains the DTV thoroughly
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Ali ******
@Nicole ***************
I’ve seen this before. There’s no mention of 90 days registration here either.Tore *********
@Ali *****
there’s no 90day exemption for DTV, nor for LTR.Ali ******
@Tore ********
where do you see that stated officially? It seems like a widespread false assumption.Tore *********
@Ali *****
stated official multiple locations. Among others Ali Taqi *******************************************
Also in the Thai immigration act of 1979
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Tore *********
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Nicole ****************
@Tore ********
not the DTV holdersReply to
Nicole ****************
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Bart **************
@Ali *****
it's in the law. But you're right, others who are on extensions of stay are informed they need to report, whereas so far DTV visa holders are not. There are also rumors that officials have even said that it is not required. I'm not convinced that you have to report. I guess time will tell. The visa started in July, so it's a few weeks until the first guys have the opportunity to report. If they get turned down for it not being required, we know.
Graham ******
@Bart *************
If you enter on a 12 month stamp using a Non-OA they do not put a 90 day report slip in your passport so why should a DTV be different? When on an Extension of Stay you do get the slip but not at the airport when entering which is why people question when their next report is due when they re-entrer on an extension.Bart **************
@Graham *****
ah look that sheds some light on the case. Then I'm adjusting my expectations.Reply to
Bart **************
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Rob **********
@Ali *****
it is in the Thai immigration act of 1979Ali ******
@Khun ****
Okay yes. But something that states that DTVs need to do this. This what you sent seems pre-DTV and it seems like it is being assumed that DTVs need to do this too but why would I nowhere in the process be told about this requirement. They mentioned a few things clearly and this should’ve been one of them.Tony ********
@Ali *****
because it has nothing to do with the visa, its a totally seperate law, and they didn't send you a document with the 1000's of other laws you have to adhere to either.Ali ******
@Tony *******
Ok, makes sense if you put it that way. ThanksReply to
Ali ******
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Khun *****
@Ali *****
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Kimberly ********
What is the reason for the 90-day report? And what do you need to provide at the appointment?
Nicole ****************
@Kimberly *******
DTV holders do not do 90 day reportsGraham ******
@Nicole ***************
I'll bet you they doKimberly ********
@Nicole ***************
Oh really?Reply to
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Chris *******
@Kimberly *******
the 90 day report and Tm30 address registration is a way they track our whereabouts while in Thailand.All foreign nationals must be registered Tm30 regardless of length of stay.
90 day report is for longer stay foreigners.
Neil ******
@Kimberly *******
the government wants to know where you are in case they need to pick you up for illegal activity.Kimberly ********
@Neil *****
Makes sense lolReply to
Kimberly ********
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Matt *********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Kimberly *******
I have no idea.My guess is it’s simply keeping tabs on people and gives them some kind of record of my whereabouts if ever needed in the future.
No idea what they need for the 90 day check in, but I presume it’s a couple of recent photos and passport copy, along with accomodation confirmation.
I’m searching this groups past posts because I know there’s a lot of posts but it’s hard to find it;)
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Mark ***********
I think you'll need to buy a re- entry stamp before you depart thailand unless you have a multi entry stamp already in passport
Bart **************
@Mark **********
the DTV is multiple entry.Chris *******
Matt *********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Mark **********
I have the DTV which as far as I’m aware is multiple re-entry valid for 5 years.It’s just that this particular time on my first stretch I’m here for 94 days and I wasn’t even 100% sure if I even needed to file these 90 day reports if I’m under the DTV but it now seems clear that as a foreigner, regardless of visa type you need to file.
Overall it seems to me like they’re simply keeping tabs on where all the foreigners are e.g. hotel when you check in, TM30 for a landlord (if renting) and a 90 day check in.
From what I’ve gathered in this group, when I get back from the USA in dec, the DTV will “reset” and give me another 180 days from when I land, but I’ll need to file in person again after 90 days and then I can do subsequent 90 days online.
Kfir ******
@Matt ********
hi how long it was take you to receive you application approval from the day you submit to the day you receive it ? Also you applied online? Thanks
Matt *********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Kfir *****
mine was Aussie embassy in sydney and in total it took about a month but I had to re-submit for a couple of reasons.. I think they are swamped with applications so get it in early if you can.
10 biz days is the general rule of thumb.
Embassy staff are great but clearly swamped.
Kfir ******
@Matt ********
thanks 🙏Reply to
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Colin *********
@Matt ********
I doubt that you would have to do a second 90 day Report on any entry, as you'll have to leave the country on the 180th day at the latest. @Stuart ********
or another Moderator would likely be able to clarify that.Stuart *********
@Colin ********
Depends if they extend in country then they would need to do so. If they bounce for another entry then no.Colin *********
@Stuart ********
ok, I wondered about the second one because of it being the day it would be required, but DTV holders would have to leave Thailand on that 180th day at the latest and Immigration would be stamping them outReply to
Colin *********
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Erica ********
If you could plan to departure from Thailand before the 90th day, you won't need to do the reporting.
Matt *********
ORIGINAL POSTERGarrett ***********
@Matt ********
Even at 94 days you don't really need to do one.Graham ******
@Garrett **********
but risk a 2000B fine next time you use Immigration servicesGarrett ***********
@Graham *****
7 day grace periodGraham ******
@Garrett **********
The grace period is for reporting not leavingGarrett ***********
@Gra***
You don't need to report if you leave......Graham ******
@Garrett **********
Sorry, that is not correct, you will face a possible 2000B fineGarrett ***********
@Graham *****
NaaaaaahReply to
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Stuart *********
1. Officially yes, you need to have a TM30 filed for you. Generally it’s the responsibility of the hotel or landlord to do this. Unofficially if you have no need with immigration during your stay then no one’s going to bother if you have filed or not.
2. You need to file a 90 day report when you’ve been in Thailand 90 days. There is an online website but your first report from entering Thailand (each time) will need to be done in person at your local immigration office.
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See answer 2. There is no charge for a 90 day report but if you fail to do so in time the cost is 2,000 baht.
2. You need to file a 90 day report when you’ve been in Thailand 90 days. There is an online website but your first report from entering Thailand (each time) will need to be done in person at your local immigration office.
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See answer 2. There is no charge for a 90 day report but if you fail to do so in time the cost is 2,000 baht.
Jo **********
@Stuart ********
Hello! are you sure about the 90 day reporting? Many others here are saying it’s not necessaryStuart *********
@Jo *********
I am waiting on a confirmation from immigration to be certain. The person in the video link is from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, so isn’t involved in immigration policy making.Daniel *************
@Stuart ********
any chance would you be able to make a post about it once you have an answer? :)Stuart *********
@Daniel ************
Certainly will. I believe that DTV will need to do 90 days but I’ll wait until I hear it direct from immigration.Daniel *************
@Stuart ********
appreciate it!Jo **********
@Stuart ********
agree ThanksReply to
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Nicole ****************
@Stuart ********
DTV holders do not need to do a 90 day report. Please watch this video on the specifics of the DT visa. ************************************************
Stuart *********
@Nicole ***************
Wrong. Don’t watch YouTube videos and believe all you see and hear. That guy being interviewed is from the MFA which has nothing to do with immigration policy.Reply to
Stuart *********
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Matt *********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Stuart ********
ok that makes sense and as to point 1) explains why they insist on copying my passport when I check in. Presumably the hotel is filing a TM30 with them directly.And as to point 2, perfect thanks.
I’ll make sure I go there before I leave in dec because I don’t want any issues when I get back to continue the DTV visa.
Thousand thanks!
Rok ********
@Matt ********
copying passport by a hotel does not always result in TM30 registration; if you need TM30 you need to ask to be registered and TM30 printed out.Neil ******
@Matt ********
you cannot do the first 90 day report online. It must be in person. And the system doesn’t always work in general. You may get rejected and have to go to immigration during any 90 day report attempt.Matt *********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Neil *****
ok cool, thanks for that infoBob **********
@Matt ********
that’s when you may need a copy of your TM30 in your passportReply to
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