What does "5 year multi-entry visa, valid for 180 days per entry - extendable to another 180 days ONCE" mean?

@Luit ****************

yes

I no you don’t have to use agency for retirement visa but it is an option. I don’t think an agency is an option for DTV. You never have to visit immigration if you leave every 6 months

@William *****

That is what I say, 2 borderruns each year, which might need a night outside the country, but that is still unclear.

In a lot of cases paying 1900 baht for an extension might be easier and cheaper.

With the retirement visa there is no need for borderruns, it just is what you prefer or find most annoying.

@Shannon *******

Anyone that resides in Thailand more than 180 days per year is a tax resident of Thailand and expected to pay taxes on money remitted to Thailand. The new proposal is they will be expected to pay taxes on worldwide income. You'll have to watch the news to see what happens with that proposal.

@Brandon ***********

yea. I figured something like this was in the works.. otherwise the new dn visa really didn't make a lot of sense to me.

@Shannon *******

There is no correlation between tax rules and DTV visa.

If you stay on visa exempt for over 180 days in a calendar year, you also are considered as tax resident

@Shannon *******

- the economy is slowing down and not making as much via tourism. They are hoping by letting in so many foreigners, we will spend our money and strengthen the economy. Shall see how the tax thing works though

@Shannon *******

yes, if taxes added in future makes sense now

@Brandon ***********

Oh, I see 😳😱

@Elías *******

Even when you stay 2-3 months in Thailand, then the same period outside and repeat that, it might not work with visa exemption, because it is not normal tourist behaviour and as such every immigration officer might refuse you to enter the country.

I normally only stay 2 times each year for a few months in Thailand together with my girlfriend in our own house and got remarks from immigration officer that I might choose for a real visa.

Some immigration officers just take their job seriously and try to find out if you are a real tourist or somebody who is for other reasons in Thailand, and therefore should apply for the correct visa.

Other immigration officers see the incorrect use of visa exemptions, and try to financially profit from the people misusing the system.

@Elías *******

then that works yes 👌

@Elías *******

ok then, good luck to anyone that tries your plan

@Duncan ******

There are some documents issued by embassies telling you should leave for at least 1 day after 180+180 days.

It might be that they want to make borderruns just a bit more difficult

@Duncan ******

really and apply for another 180 days

@Trevor ******

every entry you get 180 days as part of the visa - all inclusive. The only time you need to pay/apply for anything is of you want an extension on each 180 day entry.

@Trevor ******

You don't apply for anything. You have a visa. You get stamped in for what the visa allows.

@Brandon ***********

okay i have been there many times for holiday but want to move there in 12 months reading lot of comments it gets confusing with this visa do you need too leave money in a thai bank account

@Trevor ******

No one knows at the moment. As of right now it doesn't appear that you will need to show proof of funds after you obtain the DTV visa. But no one has applied for an extension yet so we don't know what the requirements will be for that.

It's very possible things could change with this visa in the future and they could require proof of funds for an extension, or even proof of funds for future entries.

@Brandon ***********

Everything is theoretically possible of course, but since you have a valid visa for multi entry of 180 days each stay, it will be very strange to add extra conditions on the entries, apart from the practical problems having it checked at immigration when you enter the country.

For other visa also requirements are only checked when you ask for extension of stay

@Luit ****************

not true. For a non-OA visa the required insurance is checked every time you enter Thailand. For visa exempt and tourist visa they can request you show proof of 20,000 baht. There is precedent to check for requirements upon entry.

@Brandon ***********

The 20,000 baht requirement has nothing to do with a visa, it is a general requirement for foreigners.

The health insurance is indeed a requirement for apply and enter with a non-oa visa, but it is also the only requirement that is also checked at entry, the financial requirements are not checked at entry, only on extending.

@Luit ****************

so there's precedent to check things on entry already. Just because they don't do it now doesn't mean it won't change. Especially since the government that implemented the program is now gone, and the leading contender for PM once called all foreigners "dirty"

@Brandon ***********

I do not see a precedent here. The health insurance requirement which is checked upon entrance, which is logical in a way for a multi-entry visa is not a requirement for the DTV visa and most other visa.

But you re free to see this different of course.

And in Thailand everything can change easy, and not always in a logical way.

But making it necessary to prove financial requirements on every entry will be very difficult to check. Think about how to prove you have 800k on a Thai bank account at the moment you arrive at the airport...

And why should somebody who leaves and reenter prove financial requirements over and over.

The check for medical insurance is reasonable because you initially have to prove for the maximum duration of stay, and when you enter your stay starts over for max duration again.

@Brandon ***********

no they can't as you can't change the condition for existing permitions. It's called grandfather rule.

@Brandon ***********

I agree

They created an open door. I think it will be changed somehow. Seems easy. But I read many digital nomads approvals and they did have solid information

Pay stub

Incorporation documents

Bank account with payments posted

Employment contract

(One person did write there own letter but had a lot of other supporting documents)

Screen shot of website for business

Has any YouTuber gotten this visa? I think with that you would have to show portfolio. How you do that online with a limited upload size of file. Screen shot of every video and then showing money from YouTube?

If you really work remotely this is super easy for sure for a company

They may have a online portfolie, or can supply links to previous work.

@Brandon ***********

okay mate thanks i going back in september for 4 weeks maybe talk too a visa person

@Trevor ******

An agent in Thailand cannot help you with DTV. It's not available in Thailand. If you want it, you must apply for it outside of the country at a Thai embassy or consulate. Would be better to get it before you even leave for Thailand.

@Brandon ***********

is it different than a retirement visa

@Trevor ******

night and day

@Trevor ******

Very different from a retirement visa. Those haven't changed in a long time.

@Brandon ***********

are they easier

@Trevor ******

Not at all. You have to apply for an extension every year and show proof of funds (800,000 baht) along with other requirements. For DTV you won't have to do any of that if you leave the country every 180 days.

@Brandon ***********

maybe that’s the one i always was going too spend 3 months in australia each year

@Brandon ***********

I wish they change.

The retirement should be 5 years but only an opinion

@Brandon ***********

ok

@Brandon ***********

if so with DTV 5 yrs period can I visit & work in other countries then come back to thailand, visa is still alive…??

@Naung ****

No Thai visa has any requirement to be in Thailand. The visa is issued for 5 years validity. Even if you leave the embassy that gave you the visa and never enter Thailand until 4 years and 11 months later, the visa will still be valid. The only thing that matters for a Thai visa is that you enter before the end date of the visa.

@Brandon ***********

Noted..Thanks Brandon

@Brandon ***********

so 180 leave re enter

@Tin *********

Yes, or 180+180 extension, leave and re-enter

@Brandon ***********

I guess each extension would be the usual 1,900 baht, Brandon? And after 360 days you'd have to do a border bounce of at least one night?

@Tim ********

Immigration officials have been stating an extension will be 10,000 baht, but the MFA says it's 1900 baht. Since the MFA has nothing to do with extensions and immigration does those, I tend to believe what immigration is saying.

@Brandon ***********

that sounds both right and wrong. All extensions regardless of visa type or length of extension, has "always" been 1900 baht.

Sounds wrong if this specific one would be 10.000.

On the other hand of immigration say so, then that's the price.

Just weird.

@Mikkel ******

probably is 1,900 but they'll take ten thousand and keep the difference...555

@Mikkel ******

When this proposal was first announced, all the news articles said 10,000 baht for an extension. So it doesn't seem incorrect in that sense, but it does seem odd that this is the only visa to have a different fee.

@Brandon ***********

Thanks. cheaper to have a weekend in Penang, Vientiane, Hanoi etc

You have to wait 180 days to get it confirmed, until then nobody knows for sure.