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Can I return to Thailand after a 5-year blacklist for overstaying a visa?
BlacklistedVisa IssuesThailand ImmigrationOverstayFamily ReunificationVisa TypesNON-O VisaTourist VisaReentry ProceduresLegal Advice
Jun 27, 2023
3 years ago
Luzilah ****************
ORIGINAL POSTERHi admin, I have very big problem inside of my head, I've been thinking, since I got blacklist since 2018, for my over stay, my problem now is after I got 5 years blacklist, I'm planning to head back to Thailand , since my daughter n family is over there. My question is do you think I can have a problem to Thai immigration , when I get back there? I wonder after 5 years of blacklist , do you think my name is already remove from blacklist? I am very concern to this matter , pls kindly help!😢my husband is a Thai, but he already pass away last 2015.😢
TLDR : Answer Summary
The original poster is seeking advice on returning to Thailand after being blacklisted for 5 years due to an overstay. The comments included suggestions to check with Thai immigration or the embassy regarding their status, apply for a non-O family visa due to having a Thai daughter, and gather all necessary documents to facilitate reentry. Some commenters emphasized the importance of being cautious and well-prepared, including having accommodation arrangements and return tickets. Many shared personal experiences regarding similar situations and the complexities involved with immigration regulations.
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Carlos *********
If you have paid the fine and complied with all the requirements. You shouldn't have any problem. There is more lines to the story, we don't know but you will know at flight check in if there is a problem, as the airline won't let you board black listed,( because they are on the hook for bringing you back).
Luzilah ****************
ORIGINAL POSTERThank you so much guys for all the concern...god bless🙏🙏🙏
Jozef ***********
Many Nigerians just change their names and come back in. I'm not saying that's what you should do but I am just saying that's what some people do. Just throwing it out there my friend.
Stephen *******************
@Jozef **********
Thai immigration like any Government Security forces use Biometrics so a name change makes absolutely no difference at all.Some people must think the Thai authorities are a simple touch 🤣🤣
Graham ******
@Jozef **********
Do they also change their fingerprints?Reply to
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Ken ********
You might check a Thai Embassy where you live if there is one. Or send an email to them.
John *********
Had a same experience with one of my friend, who was blacklisted for 5 Years, but not only because of overstay. However, he came back after 5 years and 9 month. Like many people recommend. Nr. 1 try to apply visa online, Nr. 2 Check with the immgration.
Nr. 3 try to get a cheap Thai lawyer, who can check on this matter, etc. My friend told me that the first 3 months when he was back, it was a bit of a headache for him, as the immigration kept eyes on him. But now he lives here for a while, without any further problems. Hope you can stay with your daughter and family soon. Wish you good luck
Nr. 3 try to get a cheap Thai lawyer, who can check on this matter, etc. My friend told me that the first 3 months when he was back, it was a bit of a headache for him, as the immigration kept eyes on him. But now he lives here for a while, without any further problems. Hope you can stay with your daughter and family soon. Wish you good luck
เจสัน ******
@John ********
You pay your money and take your choice. A "cheap lawyer" will probably just do a cheap job. Pay peanuts get monkeys my friend. This lady wants to get home to see her Thai family whatever the reason for her being blacklisted.Reply to
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Francis *******
go and ask to thé thaï Embassy
Edgar ************
You are Thai. Thai people cannot be blacklisted from their own country.
Luzilah ****************
ORIGINAL POSTER@Ned *******
no I'm not a Thai, I'm from philippines, but I can speak Thai very wellReply to
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Manfred **********
Just apply for a visa online and you'll know
Steve **********
@Manfred *********
ah ! Good advise .Dan ********
@Manfred *********
not necessarily. I answer as someone currently serving a ban.Dan ********
It was, but just expired
Dan ********
Infact that.just expired two weeks ago.
Kôrô *********
@Dan *******
yours is ban base on overstay or something?Reply to
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Deepak *******
May be gaves ful fine than remove blacklist .
เจสัน ******
Since the passing of the Thai PDPA Data Protection Act you are entitled to see what records Immigration holds on you and have them corrected.
After 5 years the "blacklisting" should be expunged.
Send a written request to Thai Immigration Head Office in BKK?
After 5 years the "blacklisting" should be expunged.
Send a written request to Thai Immigration Head Office in BKK?
เจสัน ******
@Chan **********
Good luck, hope you get back to see your Thai family soon.Reply to
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Luzilah ****************
ORIGINAL POSTER@Jay ********
thank you so much for the information, I will send them the written request to Thai immigration 👍👍👍Reply to
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Jae *******
Contact immigration and ask!
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Dan ********
@Jae ******
fair play. Well done. Very kind. I wonder if they answer and can just check like that. I will try tomorrow. I take back what I said before.Reply to
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Ronald *****
Why don't you try email Thai immigration to check if you are still blacklisted, see if they reply you
Luzilah ****************
ORIGINAL POSTER@Ronald ****
I think that's a good idea👍👍Reply to
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Jack *********
Can't a visa agent check for you?
Dan ********
@Jack ********
yes, a good and well connected agent should be able to run the name, but we might just get back what we know already, banned, ban expired and it's down to the officer on the day. They may give a little more, maybe say there is nothing showing on the system, so can relax.Luzilah ****************
ORIGINAL POSTER@Jack ********
let me check for this..thanksReply to
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Jeremy ********
I would hire a lawyer in Thailand that has connections to look you up in the database….you just never know until you arrive really
Jae *******
@Jeremy *******
I think this is a little excessive. Could at least just contact immigration first and simply ask them.Jeremy ********
@Jae ******
nothing is ever excessive…plus will immigration pickup the phone for you and give you answer 🤷🤷🤷🤷….someone with a connection will get answer whether it’s good, bad or other…Dan ********
@Jeremy *******
agreed. What phone number will you call ? "Hello this is thai immigration, how may we help you,,......" It.just doesn't happen. I found it was virtually impossible to get a lawyer to even draft an appeal letter. I tried 6,7 different firms, I even drafted a draft for them to go on. I stated it was a chargeable service and expecting to pay. So frustrating, I gave up as time to appeal was running out.John ******
@Dan *******
an appeal for what? Refusal of entry? Forget it that is at the disgration of the immigrationReply to
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ORIGINAL POSTER@Jeremy *******
are you serious ?Bryn ********
@Chan **********
Your departure date in your passport most likely is good enough to verify when you left. My experience with Thai immigration was being made aware I had overstayed my visa by two months. It was a misunderstanding on my part. In any case, the Immigration police recognized it had indeed been a mistake. They warned me I needed to leave Thailand immediately and leave Chiang Mai directly out of the country. I was charged ฿20,000 and it was marked in my passport. Since then, returning to Thailand, obviously my violation would be noted. When immigration notices the violation on my passport, the only response I’ve ever seen is a smile.
If you have fulfilled your obligations for reentry, I wouldn’t be expecting any additional issues. Showing up well groomed, wearing clean clothes, and showing respectful deference goes a long ways in Thailand.
Jeremy ********
@Chan **********
you might say it’s 5 years, but they might have annotated you in the system 6 months after you departed….nobody knows, because it’s a govt entity that doesn’t need to be efficientLuzilah ****************
ORIGINAL POSTER@Jeremy *******
I think I'd rather check it first, just to make sureBryn ********
@Chan **********
I might also add, when I left the country, I renewed my visa in Malaysia and was back the next week. Also, over the last five years, Chiang Mai Immigration procedures have been vastly improved where the staff doesn’t have the pressures on them they once did.
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Luzilah ****************
ORIGINAL POSTERThank you for the information
Teresa ***********
@Chan **********
hello kabayan. Kumuha po kayo ng tourist visa sa Thai embassy Manila para sure na hindi kayo naka ban sa Th. Tapus papuntahin nyo ang anak nyong Thai citizensa phil embassy Bkk para mag apply ng invitation para hindi kayo ma offload sa Naia immig.Luzilah ****************
ORIGINAL POSTER@Teresa **********
salamat girl....god bless😘Reply to
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Henrik ****
They might very well be more careful about the requirements for accommodation, return tickets, and the mandatory 20k THB in cash. I would be sure to get your daughter to come to get you at the airport and call her up and let Immigration officer talk to her if needed.
Viola ********
Hey! I had a big conversation with guys who work with immigration.
They say it’s ok if you come after ban. But you B need to make sure it’s exactly 5 years have passed already since you got into black list
They say it’s ok if you come after ban. But you B need to make sure it’s exactly 5 years have passed already since you got into black list
Luzilah ****************
ORIGINAL POSTER@Viola *******
yes I have finish my 5 years banViola ********
@Chan **********
so you can go! But prepare all papers and money they can ask on the border. Depends on your visaLuzilah ****************
ORIGINAL POSTER@Viola *******
I have all my documents from my daughter, and my husband, his death certificate , and.merraige contract, do you think , this documents can help?Viola ********
@Chan **********
you need to prepare for the interview and have answers for officers questions. For example, if they ask you how long you will stay in Thailand, you need to say the exact amount of time (like “40 days”, no “ I don’t know yet” responses!). Where you go next, flight ticket out of countryLuzilah ****************
ORIGINAL POSTER@Viola *******
thank you for all the information 😘god blessViola ********
@Chan **********
if you apply for a touristic visa, you better don’t mention family purpose of visit and don’t show them papers of your family. Just print hotel booking, flight ticket out of country and
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thb cash with you.Good luck!
Viola ********
@Chan **********
are you going with a touristic visa? Or you applying for Non O visa?Luzilah ****************
ORIGINAL POSTER@Viola *******
only tourist visa , only visit my familyChatchawal **************
@Chan **********
get a non-o ....don't try tourist v, not worth it. we now know that you are coming and have a member of your fam in Thailand, don't try ...do it right...it's not a gameCharlie *******
@Chan **********
i would have a flight ticket back out of the country also. (Just one of the fake ones).Dan ********
@Charlie ******
Really ? bad advice, you'll never be a good international fugitive, just get real one for fucks sake, for the sake a few thousand baht. And accomodation booking, and funds in cash. And all.paperwork you can carry.Reply to
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Michael ********
You have daughter here ?
Is she Thai nationality ?
Get family non O
Is she Thai nationality ?
Get family non O
Luzilah ****************
ORIGINAL POSTER@Michael *******
yes my daughter is a Thai, were planning to apply for retirement visa in the future , but first I have to check if my name is already remove from banReply to
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John **********
To get a 5 year ban on a one month overstay you must have been arrested and deported. Is there more to the story than just a simple overstay?
Luzilah ****************
ORIGINAL POSTER@John *********
I pm youReply to
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Andy **********
I think they will be interested in your travel history since 2018 as evidence you won't violate Thai law again.
Werner ************
Maybe check with Embassy or Immigration, what visa will you try to enter on and from what country? Regardless it will come up in immigration system whether it’s been 5 yrs or not and immigration will take a look at your file at each step
Kôrô *********
@Werner ***********
is embassy and immigration connected ?Luzilah ****************
ORIGINAL POSTER@Werner ***********
thank you Werner , that what on my mind to check on it at Thai embassy, I'm Filipino citezen thank you for your helpWerner ************
@Chan **********
you can apply for visa and see if it is approved and enter, they might ask some question when you arrive but you can show documents that your ban has ended after 5 yrsLuzilah ****************
ORIGINAL POSTER@Werner ***********
yes I have all the documents and some thai documents , maybe it will help. Do I need the invitation letter from my daughter? I was thinking to apply only tourist visa, just to visit my familyWerner ************
@Chan **********
take everything just in caseReply to
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