Do I need to apply for a tourist visa in advance if staying 32 nights in Thailand with a European passport?

Mar 15, 2024
8 months ago
José *******
ORIGINAL POSTER
I've the European Passport and I will be in Thailand for 32 nights, I will need to request any Tourist-Visa in advance?
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TLDR : Answer Summary
For travelers with a European passport planning to stay in Thailand for 32 nights, it is advisable to apply for a 60-day tourist visa in advance at a Thai embassy due to the 30-day limit for visa exemption on arrival. Alternatively, travelers can enter on a visa-free basis for 30 days and risk a 2-day overstay fine of 1,000 THB upon departure, but this comes with the risk of being flagged for overstaying. It’s recommended to resolve visa matters before arrival or consider extending the initial 30 days while in Thailand.
Dennis **********
Pay 1000 thb when departing or 1900 thb for 30 day extension although only use 2 days

That's you choice. 500 thb per day overstayed. No recourse just pay the fine. Won't be on your passport.
Brian ********
Apply for a tourist visa before you travel
Di ********
Ask your Embassy…….
Peter *****
Once you get to. Bankok airport can i find easy the imigration office to apply for a 30 day visa,extention
Graham ******
@Peter ****
You cannot get any extensions at any airport, the provincial Immigration Office for the area you are staying is where you go
Peter *****
Ian *********
I wouldn’t advise overstaying as it’s a black mark against you.

You can get an extension but that’s wasting a day at immigration.

I would opt for a tourist visa in advance then no more worries.
Gerard **************
Happened to me last year, Airline grilled me on the way, but no issues at BKK.

As for the extension I went to Pnomh penh so solved that way.
Peter *******
Peter *******
Europpean passport does not exist
Joseph *******
no you should be able to just turn up and get a extention when you're getting to the end of your trip
Fab **********
I got a single ticket one way from London had no problems at airport
Giovanni *******
No tu sei europeo e ti danno i 30 giorni se ne fai 32 dovevi saperlo prima di prendere biglietto aereo e se vuoi essere sicuro al 29 giorno vai all immigrazione e chiedi estenzione con 1 foto e paghi 1950 bath ma non so se per 2 giorni di overstay devi farlo o no. devi sentire altrimenti paghi 500 bath per giorno overstay all aeroporto informati
Steve **********
Children play nice, he asked a legit Q
James *********
You can overstay by two days without a problem. You will just pay the fine when you leave.

I arrived today (USA passport) and was asked when I was leaving and I informed them in 32 days… And I asked “will this be a problem ? … or will I need to do a border run before then”?

They said no problem just pay the fine for two days when you exit
Jordi ********
@James ********
Here we go again. Always someone promoting the overstay method...
James *********
@Jordi *******
oh yea…. Promoting it. Please everyone… please please Overstay. 😂🤣

Settle down Miss Jordi

Simply, stating my experience, when I specifically asked, immigration officer
Jordi ********
@James ********
You got the Mr and Mss wrong a lot in Thailand didn't you
James *********
@Jordi *******
🤣good one
Jordi ********
@James ********
"you can overstay by two days without a problem. you will just pay the fine when you leave". Sorry James, this is just a bad advice all together. Or at least it reads like one. Glad you had a very good experience doing so but honestly, its not worth the risk and you should not tell people to take this path. Im not a miss btw. Sorry champ.
KJ ********
@James ********
Is it possible to get a 90 day tourist visa on a USA passport?
Steve **********
@James ********
agree. 500 baht per day....IF they ask.
Bart **************
@James ********
well that certainly isn't the right answer.
James *********
@Bart *************
report him for what?

i’ll just pay my two day fine when I leave.
Bart **************
@James ********
the problem is that if you are stopped by the police for anything during those days, you will be detained.
Sophie *********
@Bart *************
And it's not only a problem if one is detained. The ineradicable overstay stamp in the passport is the thing I'm always worried about. If the OP's never coming back to Thailand it's irrelevant I suppose.
Bart **************
@Sophie ********
agree, that's also a concern. Maybe not for Thailand, except if you ever plan on going elite, but for countries like Australia this could weigh on your visa application.
Sophie *********
@Bart *************
I went through immigration 6 hours after the midnight deadline recently. I got an overstay stamp and a guy in that section told me he was being forced to leave the Kingdom - I didn't get the story though, but he looked in shock.
James *********
@Bart *************
I will be sure to keep my wild behavior in check for those last two days 🤪
James *********
@Bart *************
really?

That’s exactly what the person at airport immigration told me today

Bart **************
@James ********
report him.
Lee ***********
You have an EU passport

Live in the UK

Where did you obtain your passport?

Be specific

Depends on your flight arrival and departure I.e. 2300 arrival time stay airline until 0000 then go through, you gain 1 day. Do the same on the way out you lose a day, then you have stayed 30 days, that is if your from an EU country that gives you the 30 day VOA. Failing that go to immigration and get an extension.

If your a country with less than 30 days VOA then you have to ask again. Bon voyage
Manfred ********
32 days? Then you need to make a TR60 e-Visa. Its not rocketscience and you are out of any trouble.🤷‍♂️
Neil ********
Just buy the appropriate visa
Cale *******
Tipyaporn ********
30days is should be good, then you can come back with pleasure of next trip
José *******
ORIGINAL POSTER
Jesper *********
Hey sorry it was Vietnam i got 45 days sorry everybody
Bart **************
Wow, so many bad replies here. I've seen this group do better :/
Bart **************
That would indeed be the most convenient for you.
Jeffrey ************
There isn't a European passport...
Ian **********
@Jeffrey ***********
yes there is and is still currently operating, thats what it is called regardless of where it works or doesn't, its still issued as an EU passport
Jeffrey ************
@Ian *********
Suggest you look at Thai immigration rules for visa's. IE Bulgaria.
Ian **********
@Jeffrey ***********
read your own answer lol 😆😂😅
Jeffrey ************
@Ian *********
There is no such thing as an eu passport you clown. Everyone is country specific 😂😂
Ian **********
@Jeffrey ***********
you fucking clown
Jeffrey ************
@Ian *********
You fuckwit...
Ian **********
@Jeffrey ***********
educated answer, typical lol 😆😂😅
Jeffrey ************
@Ian *********
Following your example 🤣🤣🤣
Ian **********
@Jeffrey ***********
well they clearly are not as there are no border check points, come to my face and call you a clown your so brave brave 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Jesper *********
I get 45 days on arrival with a Danish passport
Jesper *********
Sorry i was supposed to text another guy 😃
Todd *********
@Jesper ********
no, you don't. 30 days.
Jesper *********
Todd *********
@Jesper ********
haha, well never say never. Interesting. However, that would appear to be an error. Maybe one of the mods here can shed more light?
Jesper *********
I was told its only a few countries that give free visa in Vietnam for 45 days including the northern Europe 😀
Bart **************
@Jesper ********
most certainly not.
Jesper *********
@Bart *************
no sorry i made mistake it is Vietnam i can stay 45 days is that normal.?
Bart **************
@Jesper ********
no, Vietnam has 15 day exemption but not for Danish afaik and they have 30 and 90 day visas. Nothing of 45.
Jesper *********
Or maybe you dont have to dm can i share a photo here?
Jesper *********
I got 45 days for sure this time
Jesper *********
A picture
Jesper *********
@Bart *************
dm me i show you
Bart **************
@Jesper ********
can share here.
Jesper *********
Bart **************
@Jesper ********
yes, thanks. Looked it up now. It's something new, and for a very small number of countries but that includes the Nordic ones. Good deal then 👍. A couple other countries have 15 days exemption there but that again includes just a couple. Most westerners have to get a visa for Vietnam.
Jesper *********
I was just told that it is only a few countries that give free visa for 45 days in Vietnam including the Nordic countries in Europe 😀
Jesper *********
@Bart *************
yes okay thank you for the info. Yes but i think it is strange it changes from country to country should be free visa for all.
Jesper *********
You see now?
Jesper *********
@Bart *************
i can not see the picture i just post
Jesper *********
@Bart *************
ok i try whait
Michael ******
Just get a visa extension in Thailand
Bart **************
@Michael *****
why do so difficult?
Jonny *******
Yes
José *******
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Jonny ******
I intend to stay 32 nights in Thailand and the Automatic Tourist-Visa on arrival in Thailand is only 30 days, I want to know if I will need to sort out my Tourist-Visa in advance even before get in Thailand or that can be sort out in Thailand?
Jonny *******
@José ******
you can sort it in Thailand either pay someone to do it or just go out the country for a few days and come back and you’ll get another 30 days just google Thailand visa
José *******
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Jonny ******
Where I can do it in Thailand?
Philippe *******
José, It 30 days not 32 for entry. Don’t make mistakes.
Bart **************
@Philippe ******
which mistake did he make then?
Phil ******
Jan ******************
@José ******
since you are Portuguese you’re entitled to 30 days visa exemption when you arrive at the airport which can be extended with another 30 days at your local immigration in Thailand for 1900 thb. Formally your air carrier can ask you to show proof of an onward ticket out of Thailand within 30 days.
Bart **************
@Jan *****************
and why not go for tourist visa?
Jan ******************
@Bart *************
I don’t know. A 60 days tourist visa you need to get from an embassy outside Thailand and practice varies. Some embassies demand and onward ticket and some don’t like ours in Norway at time. Onward ticket it’s anyway rarely checked at the immigration but you can risk your air carrier will ask you for an onward ticket if you’re one way ticket without a visa.
José *******
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Jan *****************
I intend to stay 32 nights in Thailand and the Automatic Tourist-Visa on arrival in Thailand is only 30 days, I want to know if I will need to sort out my Tourist-Visa in advance even before get in Thailand or that can be sort out in Thailand?
James *********
@José ******
just pay the extra two days when you leave

1900baht x 2 days
Jan ******************
@José ******
Tourist visa you’ll need to apply for at a thai embassy before you enter Thailand and it’s for 60 days. If you come without any visa they will give you 30 days free visa exemption at the airport. In the last week before your exemption expires you can go to the nearest thai immigration and get another 30 days extension -in total 60 days- for 1900thb.
José *******
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Jan *****************
That can be sort out in Thailand?
Jan ******************
@José ******
Yes you get the 30 days at the airport when you arrive and you’ll get your 30 days more later when you are in Thailand.
José *******
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Jan *****************
Where I can do that in Thailand?
Jan ******************
@José ******
Depends on where you stay. Every district has its own immigration and you’ll need to use the nearest one.
Ben ***************
@Jan *****************
side question, from reading this, does that mean you can enter Thailand without an outward travel booked if you are going to get the 90 day visa?
Jan ******************
@Ben **************
Yes for a 90 days Non O visa an onward ticket it’s not required. For a 60 (+30) days tourist visa some embassies demand an onward ticket and some don’t.
Juerg ************
@Jan *****************
As for the 90 days Non O visa: The embassy issuing the visa will not ask for a return ticket within 90 days but several airlines will. For instance Quatar. It happened to me a week ago when flying back to Thailand with a new Non O visa issued in my country of birth. Luckily I had booked another flight back to my country of birth within 90 days, otherwise they would not let me enter the airplane. Will now postpone this flight, as I will apply for a yearly extension of stay based on this visa.
Jan ******************
@Juerg ***********
Ok, seems quite strange as no one else than the airline will ask for a ticket. Non O most people use as a start for a permanent stay or retirement in Thailand. Just heard of this as mentioned for visa exemption and some embassies asking for this when issuing tourist visa. I even have a friend travelling 10 weeks to Thailand with Qatar Christmas time from Norway just on a visa exemption.
Lana ***********
@Jan *****************
it really depends on the agent and how experienced they are. Those working with the airlines for a while know that return ticket rule is not enforced by Thai immigration, while a new agent can just read off the list of requirements and is not familiar with different types of visas. It can also happen that one of their passenger was not permitted in Thailand by authorities and airline was fined and had to fly them back so now they are more cautious. As a rule, airlines are the ones checking all required documents including passport validity, visas, return tickets etc - before checkin
Jan ******************
@Lana **********
You’re right, I know people have been denied check in without a return/ticket even if they had proof of tickets out of TH. I also know people denied in the first place but managed to get check in after showing the staff the formal requirement for visa exemption.
Lana ***********
@Jan *****************
I know someone who just went into a queue again and got to a different agent who didn’t ask her any outbound ticket at all. So many incompetent agents out there
Jan ******************
Ben ***************
Lana ***********
You need to be more specific with your country. I don’t suggest to overstay. If you don’t want to go to immigration for visa extension - you can do a visa run or legitimately visit one of the neighbouring countries. You can go to Koh Lipe and take a ferry to Langkawi which is in Malaysia. Or fly to Malaysia, Singapore - tickets are cheap if bought in advance. Laos is very nice as well.
Dennis **********
@Lana **********
rubbish go to the nearest immigration office near where your staying.
Charlie ******
And what country in the European Union issued your passport? As Thailand is in Asia you need to be country specific, as they don't care about the European Union.
Peter ****************
E.g. Bulgary is a European country but does NOT have the 30 days visa exempt.
Ste *******
@Peter ***************
Ive never been to Bulgary, is it nice?
Peter ****************
@Ste ******
pff, not everyone has English as his native tongue. Childish is a word I DO know...
Yorgos **************
@Peter ***************
, is called Bulgaria, not Bulgary
Matt **********
Who plans trips, specifically 2 days longer than their Visa allows? Why? Do better.

Answer to your question. Yes.1,900 baht at immigration for a 30 day extension. Or over stay 2 days, pay 1,000 baht fine, but get flagged in their system as an overstay and get an overstay stamp. It's worth the extra money to avoid that. Next time plan better.
Dennis **********
@Matt *********
I han accident overstayed 30 days paid
*****
thb fine no stamp in passport.
Jeff ********
@Matt *********
100%.. People can be so entitled and ignorant.
Bart **************
@Matt *********
why not just a tourist visa? Easiest of all. Also the cheapest
Jordi ********
@Bart *************
still an expensive two days
Bart **************
@Jordi *******
It cost the same as a two day overstay fine.
Jordi ********
@Bart *************
I thought TV was around 70,- euros but cant find it real quick? Still, overstay is not a good option. Better extend or get the TV indeed.
Bart **************
@Jordi *******
TV is slightly over 1000 baht depending on currency.
Rene ******
@Matt *********
request tourist visa, in my case it was 35 euro. 13 euro and a lot of time saved
Peter ****************
And should you have a passport of a country for which you can have the 30 days visa exempt, I would not go on overstay 2 days. Should you be checked in those 2 days, you have a big problem. The (later) return ticket is most of the time a problem with your airliner. Not many times by Thai imm.
Ian **********
Its an E U passport and also country specific, come in on a visa free entry for 30 days and either pay a fine of 1000baht or buy a 30 day extension at the local immigration for 1900baht
Bart **************
@Ian *********
why do so difficult? He can get a tourist visa. No need to extend anything then.

Not to speak of the suggesting to let him overstay :/
Alessandro **********
@Ian *********
Romania, Bulgaria and Malta are in the EU, yet they are not allowed visa exemption, it's either get a Visa or 15 days Voa. Thailand is country specific when it comes to Visa and they couldn't care less if you have an EU writing on the passport.
Ian **********
@Alessandro *********
I never questioned that I just stated it is called an EU passport
Darren *******
@Ian *********
not all EU countries qualify for visa exemption
Ian **********
@Darren ******
regardless its still called an EU passport
Darren *******
@Ian *********
call it what you want, there's no country in the world called the EU
Ian **********
James *********
@Ian *********
so eu pp only good for travel between eu countries, of which Thailand is not a member
Frank **********
@Ian *********
that is for EU countries.
Ian **********
@Frank *********
no need for the idiot now is there keyboard warrior, if you can read i just answered that it is called an EU passport I did not question any of the other remarks
Frank **********
@Ian *********
damn. I really am sorry. That comment was meant for David Williams, who called me ignorant. Sorry.
Darren *******
@Ian *********
I don't know if you're just genuinely stupid or just playing the role here. Either way, there's no such thing as an EU passport and not all countries which are members of the organisation known as the EU get 30 day visa exempt entries to Thailand.

Your advice further up on this post is wrong.
Frank **********
Thats like me saying I have a North American passport. Passports are country specific.
Galenus ******
@Frank *********
No, a bit illerate
David **********
@Frank *********
that's where you show your ignorance of the EU they do have an EU passport.
Frank **********
@David *********
ok dipshit. But my comment still is valid Mr Brainiac.
Jeff ********
@David *********
Entry to Thailand and passports are country-specific numbnuts
Brandon ************
There's no such thing as a European passport. Thailand has various entry method but they are dependant on the COUNTRY of your passport. What country is your passport and we can give you an accurate answer.
Lawrence *********
@Brandon ***********
They mean an EU passport...they have different structure in EU.
Brandon ************
@Lawrence ********
there's no EU passport. You cannot enter Thailand from the EU. You have a passport from a specific country and the requirement to have a visa or not is based on the country.
Lawrence *********
@Brandon ***********
I Know that.... duh... I'm pointing out the fact that Europeans look at things differently. You wouldnt understand. As you were, thanks for playing. Keep your chin up and have a great weekend.
Ruth *******
@Lawrence ********
considering he lives in the UK and he didn’t say he is in a member country, I’m not sure why you made that assumption. Maybe you’re the one not understanding.
Lawrence *********
@Ruth ******
I'm sorry Ruth maybe I need to delineate extensively for you but because of the EU and even though the UK has left the EU there is a feeling that there is a homogeneous treatment of people to some degree or another because this is where they come from and that's what it's like where they come from. I hope that explains things to you I don't think that way but I know that's why people do think that way. If you have any more confusion feel free to ask I will be happy to delineate for you further.
Ruth *******
@Lawrence ********
I’m not in the least bit confused. Immigration law is not based upon your feelings.
José *******
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Brandon ***********
I intend to stay 32 nights in Thailand and the Automatic Tourist-Visa on arrival in Thailand is only 30 days, I want to know if I will need to sort out my Tourist-Visa in advance even before get in Thailand or that can be sort out in Thailand?
Jesper *********
@Brandon ***********
i got 45 days for free with my Danish passport on arrival.
Brandon ************
@Jesper ********
That promotion ended a long time ago. It's now back to 30 days visa exempt for most western countries.
Jesper *********
And could have stayed til the 14 of April i think it was
Brandon ************
@Jesper ********
Then you're mistaken. You would have received a 30 day stamp if you did not have a visa.
Jesper *********
And it was on arrival from Denmark
Jesper *********
@Brandon ***********
no it was 45 days. I just been to Bangkok
Brandon ************
@Jesper ********
then it was a mistake by the immigration officer and you would still be counted as overstay if you stayed past 30 days.
Jesper *********
@Brandon ***********
okay i dont know. I have to check it out then maybe you are right. I am going back to Bangkok next month from Saigon. So it would be nice to know so i want overstay. Is it not different from country to country?
Brandon ************
@Jesper ********
No one gets a 45 day stamp when entering right now. There's no promotions and not a single visa that provides 45 days. It's either 14, 30, 90, or 1 year. The only time it would be different is if you are using a re-entry permit to enter on an already existing stamp.
Jesper *********
@Brandon ***********
ok strange i see when i. Google it i can send a picture if you would like to see?
Brandon ************
@Jesper ********
sure I'll dm you
Jesper *********
@Brandon ***********
ok cool there will just go maybe half and hour before i get to my room. How can they make a mistake like that.
Jesper *********
@Brandon ***********
ok but i just got to bkk the 29 of feb last month
Mark *********
Dont make any promises you cant keep....
Bart **************
Lawrence *********
You need to show outbound flight within 30 days to do visa on arrival. You can stay 2 days over and pay a small fine but I dont think they let you in without a 60 day visa you get before coming if the return flight is 32 days. Not sure if they let you in. Ask Thai embassy in your home.
Frank ***********
@Lawrence ********
and do my 30 days extra never ask about retour ticket to ad imegration office
Frank ***********
@Lawrence ********
never ask me that i come to Thailand i come in with a oneway plane ticket
Frank ******
@Lawrence ********
I've been ok with 35 day flights, they know you can get extension or pay 500 b a day over.
Lawrence *********
@Frank *****
Thank you for your answer Frank I appreciate it.
Bart **************
@Lawrence ********
no need to ask the Thai embassy anything, except to issue him a tourist visa. Then he's completely out of trouble.
Lawrence *********
@Bart *************
unless they changed that rule, which I do not think they would do.
Lawrence *********
@Bart *************
You can not get a tourist visa unless you have outbound flight within 30 days or exactly at 30 days. Not longer.
Bart **************
@Lawrence ********
absolutely FALSE. A tourist visa requires an outbound ticket within 60 days. Would be kinda strange uh, giving someone 60 days to stay but then requiring onward travel within 30. Many of Thailand's rules are weird enough, but not thát weird (e.g. that onward travel within 90 days isn't accepted because you can extend the visa to 90 - although some embassies do accept that, for exactly that reason).
Milan ********
@Lawrence ********
nope, visa excempt and visa on arrival are two different things
Aake **********
@Lawrence ********
and no visa on arrivel its visa exemtion bullhead
Lawrence *********
a visa exemption is still a 30 day visa on arrival by definition and if the term changed, fine, it is still a visa on arrival with an opportunity to extend another 30 days and in my case being from the US I can get a 60 day visa beforehand and a 30 day extension when there. I also have a German passport as I have dual citizenship but not sure of those rules. The only thing wrong is their use of English by saying it is an exemption, it is not. You still get a visa, they stamp your passport. End of story. :)
Steven *******
@Lawrence ********
It’s not a visa at all. It’s visa-exempt. No visa.
Lawrence *********
@Steven ******
If you think you have no visa, stay over 30 days and then leave. You are playing with semantics, I am being realistic.
Joris **********
@Lawrence ********
visa exemption has nothing to do with a visa on arrival.
Lawrence *********
@Joris *********
Exactly. The stamp you get when you arrive with no visa that allows one to stay in Thailand for 30 days with an option to extend 30 days is actually a visa.
Joris **********
@Lawrence ********
It's not a visa but a stamp, that's why it's called a visa exemption. A visa is what you buy in a Thai consulate or embassy before you wing your way to Thailand.
Nick ************
Come in on 30 day Visa exempt and apply for additional 30 days from local immigration for 1900 baht. Or, apply for 60 day tourist Visa before you leave. Providing the country from which your passport is issued qualifies.
Nick ************
@Lawrence ********
visa on arrival is a totaly different thing to Visa exempt and aimed at people with certain passports so allthough I dont agree with calling you names you are wrong.
Lawrence *********
@Aake *********
you can get a visa on arrival. Is English your first language? I'd have to bet no. Please shhhhhhh... child.
Lawrence *********
@Aake *********
a bullhead is a catfish. Your name is fitting, you are aching.... child. Are you 14 years old? You seem like it, calling people names makes you feel superior? little tiny minded Achy breaky heart? Id $nap* u like a pretzel rod.
Aake **********
Lawrence *********
@Aake *********
I lived in Bangkok for 2 years in 2015 and 2016. Perhapos things have changed since then child :)
Davide *************
@Lawrence ********
no non ti fanno neanche prendere l'aereo devi dimostrare il volo di ritorno. Prendilo flessibile poi lo cambi
Lawrence *********
you can fake it too:
********************
I did it once.
Lawrence *********
Grazie mille.
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