What should I do about the TM30 while living in a friend's dormitory and not having a rented condo yet?

Apr 1, 2021
4 years ago
Kyin ****
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I finished my quarantine yesterday and tried to rent a condo but couldn’t find a suitable one yet. I am now living in my friend’s dormitory. I want to ask about the TM30, what should I do if I haven’t rented a condo, and when is the deadline to report my accommodation, will I be fined by the immigration office? Thanks!
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If you're staying in a friend's dormitory and have not yet secured a rental condo, it is important to address the TM30 registration requirement, which is typically the responsibility of your landlord. You can either ask your friend to inform immigration of your stay or report yourself with the necessary documents. Generally, you should ensure that filing the TM30 is done within 24 hours of moving in to avoid a potential fine, which can vary, typically around 800 baht, but may reach up to 2000 baht at the discretion of the immigration officer. Many suggest it may be safe to wait until you secure a condo, as enforcement varies and the risks appear lower if you plan on moving soon.
Steve **********
Friends dorm can provide
Martin *********
Maybe its your friend that needs to do it
Graeme **********
Not sure how this is interpreted, but the top of the form includes the words Possessor of the Residence. ‘NOTIFICATION FROM FOR HOUSE-MASTER, OWNER OR THE POSSESSOR OF THE RESIDENCE WHERE ALIEN HAS STAYED’. So I’ve lodged a TM 30 when I’ve had friends stay at the property I rent and I’ve never been knocked back. But if I leave on a trip and return, my landlord does the TM 30 stuff for me.
Brandon ************
This isn't the legal answer, but I would just ignore it for now and get your landlord to do it when you find a condo if you're planning that soon. You won't actually need your TM30 until you need to use a service at immigration, such as getting an extension. If you get it for your new condo, the chances of them noticing you didn't have it for a few weeks after ASQ are pretty low.
Bobby ********
If your landlord doesn't do it, make sure you do it within 24 hours of moving in, as it's you who will wear the 800 baht fine!
Arron *********
@Bobby *******
last time I got caught was 1600.
Bobby ********
Arron Simpson. It's actually any amount up to 2000 baht at the discretion of the IO. 800 seems to be the general amount, although some get away with 600, but it seems you got someone on a bad day. I wonder, did you actually get a receipt?
Shane **********
Wherever you’re staying you have to provide the registration or lease for that property.
Charles ********
@Shane *********
If you are registering it for yourself you just you passport and lease agreement? Not copy of deed and landlord ID?

Sorry I am new to this too.
Shane **********
@Charles *******
9. The applicant is required to provide one of the following evidence of payment:

9.1 A fully paid hotel reservation for your stay in Thailand issued by the hotel showing the duration of stay, and hotel’s contact details and tax ID number;

9.2 A fully paid residential lease in Thailand issued by the lessor showing the duration of stay, and the lessor’s contact details and tax ID number;

9.3 A hire-purchase or mortgage agreement of immovable property;

9.4 Condominium title deed;
Charles ********
@Shane *********
thats for the STV, I was asking for the filing the TM30.
Shane **********
@Charles *******
they’re the same options for confirmed accommodation.
Charles ********
@Shane *********
I am not sure we are talking about the TM30. I found this online.

There are 4 ways to file a TM.30 form:

Your landlord does it for you (either in person or online).

You do it on behalf of your landlord. This requires a copy of the landlord’s Thai ID, copy of the house book listing for where you stay, and power of attorney form from your landlord stating you are allowed to file the TM.30 for them (and two 5 baht tax stamps) along with the copies of your lease and your passport.

You can do it for yourself. This requires nothing from your landlord. It only requires copies of your lease (the lease has to be in your name) and passport pages along with a filled out TM.30 form.

It can be done by mail. This can take up to 4 weeks to get the receipt back.
Shane **********
@Charles *******
yes much of a muchness, my g/f provides her house papers when I’ve done these for visa extension.
Thomas ************
Officially the landlord of wherever you are residing is the one to file the tm30.

Unofficially landlords don't care except for when signing a lease, and immigration only cares once every 7 years for about 4 months before they forget about it's existence again.

Don't follow my advice, but I wouldn't worry about it if you're going to be moving into a new place soon.
Kyin ****
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Thomas ***********
thanks❤️
Darren *******
Its upto your friend to advise immigration you are living there or you could go yourself to immigration and report yourself with the relevant documents.
Kyin ****
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Darren ******
thanks❤️
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