Do I need to report my friend staying with me in Thailand using the TM.30 form?

@Julia ****

the thing is more and more immigration offices ARE getting hard core about the TM.30 not being filed when people are applying for extensions on 30 day visa exempt entry stamps and 60 day tourist visa stamps.

Chiang Mai doesn't care about a TM.30 IF you are only getting a 30 day extension but for every other extension they are hard about it too.

That’s exactly what I was trying to say

I literally was in the country for 2 days. Went to the immigration office and copper a fine. I was reapplying for marriage visa after arriving on tourist visa (exempt for Aussies). Twas informed I didn't advise my residence and was fined 2,000b in Bangkok. It is what it is. Cannot argue with them. Just smile and say sorry, pay the fine.

@Da**

like I said there is no requirement to register via the TM.30 form in bangkok. Other provinces yes, but not in bangkok. They wouldn't care in the least if you did or didn't file a TM.30.

Plus most immigration offices that are hard core about the form only require a TM.30 to be filed IF you return from overseas,

Dunno what you were fined for..

Nope. I have multi entry marriage visa. I only stay for less than a month. I have not ever had the need to do a 90 dwy report The fine was for not registering at a condo of a friend, although not was literally 2 or 3 days.

There is NO requirement to do a TM.30 (alien in residence) form in Bangkok

plus if you were fined for failure to file a TM.30 for it would have been for 1600baht

I think you were fined 2000baht for failure to do a 90 day report on time. ;)

Grant Wills I can not tell you why. I only noticed than about 12 years ago a black box was introduced into Krabi Immigration, it was connected with a screen and a keyboard. And suddenly things start changing, just with a scan of your passport all info comes now on the screen. Immigration does not need to climb stairs and search cabinets for older copies. Same as in the 60's, into late into the 80's you would write this on paper, put it in an envelope and send this story to my using the mail man, now U use the same black box. Handy things those computers.

I have 3 now. On the back of my Thai drivers licence (that I needed a residence certificate from Immigration to get, my 90 day & now the TM30. Ours is not to reason why but to do or die.

Robert Lagas These laws have always been on the books (at least since the 60's but were never enforced that I know of) in the late 1980's & early 70's a little old man from imm used to climb 3 sets of stairs every week at my Guest house in Chiang Mai & dillangently copy every name staying at our Guesthouse, out at Sansai, Chiang Mai at our house my Thai wife said I needed to add my name to the house book & report it to the village headman but not to worry as they never check. As we were staying out at Sansai & running our guest house in CMX we quite often stayed at one or the other & technically I should report every move.

As for the TM30 I got my 1st one last week as Chiang Mai is now inforcing them I paid the 1600 THB fine. I have a 1 year retirement extension & also have had to get a 90 day clipped in my PP every 3 months (proof of address).

Why we need so many proof of addresses is anyone's guess.

@Robert ******

do they want to see TM30 for tourist visa extension as well now?

@Julia ****

We are talking about the same thing, only you from the past and I from the present. Some times things change, even with Thai Immigration enforcement.

That is why i wrote: "That is totally new, after reading reports last year that Chang Mai and Phuket enforce this registration of address.". This Tm30 reports came in force since last year.

Maybe we talking 2 different topics here. You Always need to register if you’re not on a tourist visa. In fact you always need to get reported but I have never gotten any problems if I didn’t get reported while I was on a tourist visa applying for an extension

It was given to somebody for Extension of Stay without registration of address.

They didn’t say which visa. As you said Non-Immigrant always needs TM 30. I got extension in Phuket

And CNX several times the last time was about a year ago for tourist visa (Multiple entry)

That says for a certificate of residence. You do need it for sure for that.

Phuket gives out this hand out if people need something from Immigration, but if she says we and immigration are wrong, who are we to discuss.

TM30 is definitely needed to extend a non-immigrant visa in Chiang Mai, they won't give you the extension until someone pays the fine. I don't _think_ it is needed to extend a tourist visa- I think the chatter around this was regarding non-immigrant visa extensions and people just took it as all visa extensions in general.

That is totally new, after reading reports last year that Chang Mai and Phuket enforce this registration of address. But thank you for reporting that it is not needed anymore. btw When did you apply for Extension of Stay at both locations?

@Robert ******

yes an airbnb and they didn’t ask for passport copies or the arrival card, which they would need to report me

@Julia ****

And did you stay at a private address?

@Robert ******

i got extension in Phuket amd Chiang Mai without any problems. I guess it comes down if you need to show them TM 30 or not. And that has never been the case for me if I was just doing an extension

Wrong. Some offices like Phuket, Pattaya/Jomtien, Chang Mai and a few others will NOT give any Extension of Stay without an registered address.

What a pain. I guess I'll have to scan the copies I have so as not to annoy the landlady or just have my mother stay in a hotel.

You always need the Tm30 form, signed copy ID landlord and signed copy blue housebook.

So, if I'm in Chiang Mai renting a house and a friend visiting stays with me, I (as the lease holder) can go to immigration with the friend to file the TM30. Do I need the full set of paperwork from the landlord or will a copy of my lease suffice?