For any Canadians interested, I just paid $650 CAD or roughly 17000 baht to apply for the DTV through the Ottawa embassy.
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The discussion centers around the costs and application process for the Destination Thailand Visa (DTV) for Canadians, which costs $650 CAD (approximately 17,000 baht) when applied for through the Ottawa embassy. Comments reveal concerns about the lengthy processing times and lack of clarity on income requirements. Additional discussion highlights frustrations with embassy procedures and potential implications should an application be rejected without refunds. Overall, the conversation reflects a mix of excitement about the visa and skepticism about the associated challenges.
With that mark up if your application is rejected does the Embassy keep your money. If so that does not seem right as you have paid a lot of money for a service they have not provided.
No refunds. But, it is not like they just deny you and make you pay again. Usually, if your supporting documents do not suffice, they ask for more documents and give you chances to get it right.
It always is a good bit messy und unclear at first with new things in Thailand. But they will muddle their way through in the end. The basics are clear. Most prominent aspect missing now is what qualifies as proof to meet the (partly unknown) requirements (especially on the Thai Soft Power side of things).
technically there are no refunds on application fees but in practice most embassies will not accept an application if they do not think they are going to approve the visa.
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You lose they win. Australian embassy $600 which equàts to more than
2200 is “dirt cheap” too for a 2 bedroom. my friend pays 1800 for a bachelor sized 1 bedroom basement apt (400 sq ft) in a mold infested basement in mississauga
I liked Bali in 1981. Too AUSSIE for me. I know people who've left Australia to go back to the old country, i.e Serbia, Croatia. Lots of pals in UK moved early: Bulgaria (no vaxxes), the wilds of France, Portugal. We are coming to Chiang Mai in about 2 months. I considered the new visa rather than non o plus extension but am not sure of it. The questions my Australian bank are now asking are beyond ludicrous. Need to find place to put modest amount of money.
Wow. That’s a harsh markup on the 10k. Was there any clarity on what you are actually getting with visa? 180+180 then exit and start again? Cost of renewals? Still seems awfully sparse on details
Not at all. What's embarrassing? No idea what you're talking about. Everything confirmed with Sydney Consulate and they're the people who will issue it. I think like others you're misreading what I'm saying. I'm only talking about RETIREMENT purposes, nothing else.
u mean the guys who are making 8% on their 800k abroad for 64,000 baht every year? I know brain dead twats who stand in line every to year to pay 1900 lol. Absolute wayne kerr's. Extensions are 1900 baht lol. Got some bad news for you sonny boy
The twats that use visa agents don't have 800k to their name! They're the losers in Thailand. Sydney Consulate confirmed extensions are 1900 baht, but that won't affect me as I'll be bouncing in and out over the five years. It suits people like me who are frequent travellers. Perhaps those who just want to stay full-time in Thailand the LTR or OX might be better. Everybody has a different situation.
lol, this isn't the 80's Jim. Here is an update for you. 800k is beer money. The losers are lining up at the bank and immigration because they can't scrape together an agent fee every year for gosh sakes. It's pretty sad. Imagine being 'retired' and crapping your pants about. a 16 baht renewal. LTR 'might' be better lol. Cmon man. Sounds like you are slowly getting up to speed. Sorry for the bad news.
Haha! You're way out. Most of those using agents don't have the money. These threads are full of them. But it's all irrelevant. The DTV makes all of this crap redundant. I use the 65k transfer method and extensions take less than an hour with zero queuing. Perhaps you used a different immigration office? But it's history now. The DTV no requirement to have money in Thailand and no requirement to visit immigration. It's a beauty
immigration office? Cmon man, catch up. I'm retired. I don't need an immigration office. DTV will require 2 annual visits to immigration to pay 10k baht
a border bounce does in fact require a visit to an immigration office. Twice. Once out and once in. Obviously, you have no experience with this.But the fun fact is that the border bounce gets you exactly zero extra days on your original 180. The multi entry just means you can come and go as you please until the 180 is over. Amazed you didn't understand that
OK. So you're one of those who never leave Thailand. That explains a lot. You're looking at the DTV from a different perspective. Obviously it wouldn't suit you, and that's fine. It's very much a visa for certain travel habits.
I travel at least 6 months every year Jim. Like i said, i'm retired. I exit and enter at least 10 times every year. U are right, It wouldn't suit me at all, because there are much better visas out there. But it sounds affordable for you
So one moment you're saying you don't need an immigration office because you're retired, the next you're saying you use an immigration office 10 times every year? Hmmmm. Something about the DTV has you rattled. The DTV is most certainly affordable to me as is the LTR, but why on earth would I pay 50,000 when I can pay 14,000? That obviously makes some sense to you, but certainly not to me!
It's multi-entry so it's 180 days each time you bounce. Sydney Consulate saying extension in-country at immigration is 1900 baht. Even at this Canadian price it's a bargain compared to Elite, LTR, OX, OA and O. Dream come true for retirees
It's multi-entry, so it's each time in the five year period. Already confirmed by Thai Consulate Sydney
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Jim Howard No retirees living in Thailand needs the DTV. I'm paying ฿1.900/ year. That's the price to go for. The DTV isn't actually designed for full time retirees.
Not designed for retirees but can certainly be used by retirees who want to avoid the financial criteria, and pick up other bonuses with it. Also avoids going to immigration every year, which is a huge plus
It's not designed for retirees, but I can see many jumping onto the bandwagon. DTV is 10,000 for five years, so 2,000 baht per year. There is no financial commitment within Thailand, so no 800k tied up in a Thai bank account or 65k per month transfers. There is no requirement to ever visit an immigration office in Thailand, so TM30 nonsense also becomes irrelevant. It's a beauty, and I'm one retiree who's going for it
Sadly, we likely won’t get rid of that TM.30 nonsense altogether. Still required when needing an even more nonsense paper, the “residence certificate” - which is needed to renew driving license, registering vehicles, opening bank accounts.
Fortunately I have no Thai Driver's Licence, no vehicle registered to me, and have three bank accounts already. It's easy to get a TM30 if you should ever need one, but as there are visits to immigration under DTV, there's no-one else checking them.
I am all set, too. Just saying. But you are right. DTV allows for little to no touch points with immigration offices within Thailand. Technically, the 90 day reporting, though.
Yes 90-day reporting still must be done. I'm in and out of the country constantly so I haven't filed a 90-day since covid. So for me there's the additional bonus of saving 3800 baht per year on a re-entry permit, as the DTV has five years of multiple entries.
You can get one 180 extension one time during the 5 year period giving you a full year. You are only allowed to do that once. For the remainder of the Visa it is 180 days total time in Country every year.
Actually it's 180 days each time you enter, so a border bounce before the 180 days is finished will suffice for another 180 days. Possible to stay for five years with just nine border bounces
the early coms before live date said one extension in the lifetime, post live date the coms now say one extension per entry. But you still have to leave and reenter once a year on top of an extension to get a full year.
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I'm a bit wary of seeing this VIsa as the answer to so many things. If something is too good to be true it probably is. It's a very open use of wording but not specific enough.
hm... The LTR allows for a work permit, huge reduction in restrictions on employees if starting a business, and no tax on worldwide income - should the stated rules on worldwide income be introduced. Can't really compare apples with pears.
I've got it worked out from the retirement angle. Most retirees don't want a work permit. And with no financial criteria to meet in Thailand there won't be any tax liability in Thailand
lol. Let us know in 5 years how much it cost you lol. For starters, your embassy is charging you 14k already. And that’s for 6 months. Let us know how free the next 54 months is for you 😂
The 14k is for five years multi-entry. That's 2800 per annum, with no requirement to transfer 65k each month and no requirement to visit immigration. That's easy enough for me to understand, even with my limited math! 😂
Paris are by far the worst. My friend in UK applied in UK and got his visa in less than 12 days. Mine in Paris was 6 weeks. Uploaded everything, but got requested for additional information 3 times. jobsworths..
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Dave FurnivalThere are embassies in Europe where applicants gets their tourist visas in 4-5 days.