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What are the costs and requirements for the Destination Thailand Visa (DTV) for Canadians applying through the Ottawa embassy?
For any Canadians interested, I just paid $650 CAD or roughly 17000 baht to apply for the DTV through the Ottawa embassy.
Answer summary
The discussion centers around the costs and application process for the Destination Thailand Visa (DTV) for Canadians, which costs $650 CAD (approximately 17,000 baht) when applied for through the Ottawa embassy. Comments reveal concerns about the lengthy processing times and lack of clarity on income requirements. Additional discussion highlights frustrations with embassy procedures and potential implications should an application be rejected without refunds. Overall, the conversation reflects a mix of excitement about the visa and skepticism about the associated challenges.
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Shauna ********************
Sorry, new to all this…what does DTV stand for?
Max *************
@Shauna *******************
Destination Thailand VisaShauna ********************
@Max ************
😊 thank you
Rick ********
With that mark up if your application is rejected does the Embassy keep your money. If so that does not seem right as you have paid a lot of money for a service they have not provided.
Rick ********
Ok
Frank-Steven ***********
@Rick *******
No refunds. But, it is not like they just deny you and make you pay again. Usually, if your supporting documents do not suffice, they ask for more documents and give you chances to get it right.Todd *********
@Frank-Steven **********
it's looking worse and worse by the day. Was kinda hopeful your predictions might be on point. But looking more and more like a wide missFrank-Steven ***********
@Todd ********
It always is a good bit messy und unclear at first with new things in Thailand. But they will muddle their way through in the end. The basics are clear. Most prominent aspect missing now is what qualifies as proof to meet the (partly unknown) requirements (especially on the Thai Soft Power side of things).
Ivan ************
@Ri**
technically there are no refunds on application fees but in practice most embassies will not accept an application if they do not think they are going to approve the visa.Rick ********
You lose they win. Australian embassy $600 which equàts to more than
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bht
Bonnie *********
@Rick *******
Nope, no refunds.
Alexandre ********
@Rick *******
yes correct they keep your money if denied
Carly **************
awesome good luck on your journey.
canada has become a shthole I am looking at ways of leaving for good too, This visa seems amazing 🙌
canada has become a shthole I am looking at ways of leaving for good too, This visa seems amazing 🙌
Graham ******
@Carly *************
don't tell Trudeau about Thailand ;)Carly **************
@Graham *****
He probably already owns an island there with all the tax dollars he has smuggled 🫣😂
Coady *******
@Carly *************
Toronto is getting it the worst, love from B.CCarly **************
@Coady ******
i fled Vancouver for Toronto, its getting terrible everywhere in canada 😞 praying for a miracle for this country, so sad to watch it fall
Shane ********
@Carly *************
I 100 percent agree with this 2200for a 2 bedroom apartment plus uttillities and groceries me and my gf 700 bucks a month we spend.Carly **************
@Shane *******
2200 is “dirt cheap” too for a 2 bedroom. my friend pays 1800 for a bachelor sized 1 bedroom basement apt (400 sq ft) in a mold infested basement in mississauga
Jeff *******
@Carly *************
Don't let the door hit you on the way out.Todd *********
@Jeff ******
lol. Over 5 million Canadians have left for a better life. Last one to figure it out close the doorJeff *******
@Todd ********
Finished counting your money and here to tell us all the tally?Shane ********
@Jeff ******
enjoy staying here and being taxed to death and paying out the ass for things.
Lena *******
@Shane *******
If they're not poisoned by chemtrails etc.Lena *******
@Todd ********
I liked Bali in 1981. Too AUSSIE for me. I know people who've left Australia to go back to the old country, i.e Serbia, Croatia. Lots of pals in UK moved early: Bulgaria (no vaxxes), the wilds of France, Portugal. We are coming to Chiang Mai in about 2 months. I considered the new visa rather than non o plus extension but am not sure of it. The questions my Australian bank are now asking are beyond ludicrous. Need to find place to put modest amount of money.Todd *********
@Lena ******
so many Aussies here 🇹🇭 and Bali. Unreal.And Canadians in Mexico and Florida/arizona. Amazing times. The new immigrants globally are commonwealth and Americans
Lena *******
@Shane *******
Leaving Australia for same reason.
Danny *******
OP@Carly *************
thanks very much, same to you! Definitely hoping this visa pans out, it's a game changer.Shane ********
@Danny ******
are you from ottawaDanny *******
OP@Shane *******
no, just north of TorontoShane ********
@Danny ******
can I pm you with questionsDanny *******
OP@Shane *******
sureShane ********
@Danny ******
that’s awesome I can’t wait to be able to moveTodd *********
Wow. That’s a harsh markup on the 10k. Was there any clarity on what you are actually getting with visa? 180+180 then exit and start again? Cost of renewals? Still seems awfully sparse on details
Jim ********
@Todd ********
It's a dead link - a bit like the LTR retirement visa! It's an omen! 😂Todd *********
@Jim *******
ahhh, you can't get in. Well sorry about your woefully wrong perceptions of the 10k DTV. Gotta be a bit embarrassignJim ********
@Todd ********
So one moment you're saying you don't need an immigration office because you're retired, the next you're saying you use an immigration office 10 times every year? Hmmmm. Something about the DTV has you rattled. The DTV is most certainly affordable to me as is the LTR, but why on earth would I pay 50,000 when I can pay 14,000? That obviously makes some sense to you, but certainly not to me!Todd *********
@Jim *******
I travel at least 6 months every year Jim. Like i said, i'm retired. I exit and enter at least 10 times every year. U are right, It wouldn't suit me at all, because there are much better visas out there. But it sounds affordable for youJim ********
@Todd ********
They'll already know this cartoon as it's one of theirs! 😂Jim ********
@Todd ********
OK. So you're one of those who never leave Thailand. That explains a lot. You're looking at the DTV from a different perspective. Obviously it wouldn't suit you, and that's fine. It's very much a visa for certain travel habits.Todd *********
@Jim *******
maybe you can show immigration this cartoon when you come back in. I'm sure they will accept thatTodd *********
@Jim *******
a border bounce does in fact require a visit to an immigration office. Twice. Once out and once in. Obviously, you have no experience with this.But the fun fact is that the border bounce gets you exactly zero extra days on your original 180. The multi entry just means you can come and go as you please until the 180 is over. Amazed you didn't understand thatJim ********
@Todd ********
Not if border bouncing. It's multi-entry. A border bounce doesn't require a visit to an immigration office. I thought you'd have known that.Todd *********
@Jim *******
immigration office? Cmon man, catch up. I'm retired. I don't need an immigration office. DTV will require 2 annual visits to immigration to pay 10k bahtJim ********
@Todd ********
Haha! You're way out. Most of those using agents don't have the money. These threads are full of them. But it's all irrelevant. The DTV makes all of this crap redundant. I use the 65k transfer method and extensions take less than an hour with zero queuing. Perhaps you used a different immigration office? But it's history now. The DTV no requirement to have money in Thailand and no requirement to visit immigration. It's a beautyTodd *********
@Jim *******
lol, this isn't the 80's Jim. Here is an update for you. 800k is beer money. The losers are lining up at the bank and immigration because they can't scrape together an agent fee every year for gosh sakes. It's pretty sad. Imagine being 'retired' and crapping your pants about. a 16 baht renewal. LTR 'might' be better lol. Cmon man. Sounds like you are slowly getting up to speed. Sorry for the bad news.Jim ********
@Todd ********
The twats that use visa agents don't have 800k to their name! They're the losers in Thailand. Sydney Consulate confirmed extensions are 1900 baht, but that won't affect me as I'll be bouncing in and out over the five years. It suits people like me who are frequent travellers. Perhaps those who just want to stay full-time in Thailand the LTR or OX might be better. Everybody has a different situation.Todd *********
@Jim *******
u mean the guys who are making 8% on their 800k abroad for 64,000 baht every year? I know brain dead twats who stand in line every to year to pay 1900 lol. Absolute wayne kerr's. Extensions are 1900 baht lol. Got some bad news for you sonny boyJim ********
@Todd ********
Extensions are 1900 baht, border bounces are free. *****
is 2920 baht per year. I know brain-dead twats who pay visa agents 20,000 baht per year! 😂Todd *********
@Jim *******
Sydney cost for DTV 600 AUD = 14,600 baht. Another 10k baht for every 180 days extension. Bet you wish you had enough to qualify for LTRJim ********
@Todd ********
Not at all. What's embarrassing? No idea what you're talking about. Everything confirmed with Sydney Consulate and they're the people who will issue it. I think like others you're misreading what I'm saying. I'm only talking about RETIREMENT purposes, nothing else.Jim ********
@Colin ******
I'm comparing it with the retirement visa! 😂
Colin *******
@Jim *******
you stated LTR visa in your post, amongst otherJim ********
@Colin ******
Referring to LTR for retirees. If you re-read my post you'll see the last line:- "Dream come true for retirees". Which it is, no question about it!Jim ********
@Todd ********
It's multi-entry so it's 180 days each time you bounce. Sydney Consulate saying extension in-country at immigration is 1900 baht. Even at this Canadian price it's a bargain compared to Elite, LTR, OX, OA and O. Dream come true for retireesTodd *********
@Jim *******
😂😂😂😂
Greg ***********
@Jim *******
no, it's NOT "each time" . . . . it is 180 days, extend once, then need to do a border run to obtain the next 180 days.Jim ********
@Greg **********
It's multi-entry, so it's each time in the five year period. Already confirmed by Thai Consulate SydneyMax *************
Jim Howard No retirees living in Thailand needs the DTV. I'm paying ฿1.900/ year. That's the price to go for. The DTV isn't actually designed for full time retirees.
Jim ********
@Max ************
Not designed for retirees but can certainly be used by retirees who want to avoid the financial criteria, and pick up other bonuses with it. Also avoids going to immigration every year, which is a huge plusJim ********
@Frank-Steven **********
Yes 90-day reporting still must be done. I'm in and out of the country constantly so I haven't filed a 90-day since covid. So for me there's the additional bonus of saving 3800 baht per year on a re-entry permit, as the DTV has five years of multiple entries.Frank-Steven ***********
@Jim *******
I am all set, too. Just saying. But you are right. DTV allows for little to no touch points with immigration offices within Thailand. Technically, the 90 day reporting, though.Jim ********
@Frank-Steven **********
Fortunately I have no Thai Driver's Licence, no vehicle registered to me, and have three bank accounts already. It's easy to get a TM30 if you should ever need one, but as there are visits to immigration under DTV, there's no-one else checking them.Frank-Steven ***********
@Jim *******
Sadly, we likely won’t get rid of that TM.30 nonsense altogether. Still required when needing an even more nonsense paper, the “residence certificate” - which is needed to renew driving license, registering vehicles, opening bank accounts.Jim ********
@Max ************
It's not designed for retirees, but I can see many jumping onto the bandwagon. DTV is 10,000 for five years, so 2,000 baht per year. There is no financial commitment within Thailand, so no 800k tied up in a Thai bank account or 65k per month transfers. There is no requirement to ever visit an immigration office in Thailand, so TM30 nonsense also becomes irrelevant. It's a beauty, and I'm one retiree who's going for it
Sid *******
@Jim *******
You can get one 180 extension one time during the 5 year period giving you a full year. You are only allowed to do that once. For the remainder of the Visa it is 180 days total time in Country every year.Frank-Steven ***********
@Colin ******
Nowhere. Cause it is not correct. Unlimited entries during 5 years. One extension possible at EACH entry.Colin *******
@Sid ******
Where is this stated officially?Jim ********
@Sid ******
Actually it's 180 days each time you enter, so a border bounce before the 180 days is finished will suffice for another 180 days. Possible to stay for five years with just nine border bounces
Tony ********
@Sid ******
the early coms before live date said one extension in the lifetime, post live date the coms now say one extension per entry. But you still have to leave and reenter once a year on top of an extension to get a full year.Lena *******
I'm a bit wary of seeing this VIsa as the answer to so many things. If something is too good to be true it probably is. It's a very open use of wording but not specific enough.
Todd *********
@Jim *******
clearly math (and convenience) isn’t your thing if you think that’s a ‘bargain’ compared to LTRJim ********
@Colin ******
I visit Australia twice a year. I'd just bring wads of cash and get my lady to exchange for Thai baht. Done deal! It's a winner!Colin *******
@Jim *******
and what does one live on?Jim ********
@Todd ********
I've got it worked out from the retirement angle. Most retirees don't want a work permit. And with no financial criteria to meet in Thailand there won't be any tax liability in ThailandColin *******
@Jim *******
hm... The LTR allows for a work permit, huge reduction in restrictions on employees if starting a business, and no tax on worldwide income - should the stated rules on worldwide income be introduced. Can't really compare apples with pears.Jim ********
@Todd ********
The 14k is for five years multi-entry. That's 2800 per annum, with no requirement to transfer 65k each month and no requirement to visit immigration. That's easy enough for me to understand, even with my limited math! 😂Todd *********
@Jim *******
lol. Let us know in 5 years how much it cost you lol. For starters, your embassy is charging you 14k already. And that’s for 6 months. Let us know how free the next 54 months is for you 😂Jim ********
@Todd ********
No idea how you think paying 50,000 baht is superior to 14,000 baht, but to each their own I guess! 😂Ivan ************
@To**
the requirements are a lot lower than LTR, LTR is better if you can meet the requirements but a lot of people can't.
Marco *******
What did u have to show for income?
Wild ****************
@Marco ******
$500,000 ? 🤷♂️
AliJames *****
฿500k
Wild ****************
I’m going to Hua Hin for 2 months in March 2025
Wild ****************
Thanks 🙏 that’s only $19,000 Canadian 🇨🇦
Marco *******
@Wild ***************
its 500, 000 baths is what he means not usdTodd *********
@Marco ******
nothing for income. $500k equivalent in a bank somewhere
Craig *********
@Todd ********
? 500k what? Dollars?AliJames *****
@Craig ********
He means ฿500kTodd *********
@Craig ********
baht
Eric *******
@Todd ********
I don’t have a single thing even a cellphone in my personal name, will a family joint account showing my name on it w the $ suffice?Todd *********
@Eric ******
that was likely a good idea with regard to the taxman. But could be a problem with regard to visa application
Mark *********
@Todd ********
$500k? Is that an error?Todd *********
@Mark ********
500k bahtMarco *******
Thanks for the info much appreciated btw
Marco *******
@Todd ********
interesting does it have to be personal or corp do u know?AliJames *****
@Todd ********
you mean baht?Todd *********
@Marco ******
it has to be personal I believe. But I think if you clearly show ownership of the corp, you can make a good case
Brandon ************
Just as an FYI. Ottawa and Paris are seemingly fighting it out to be the worst Thai embassy in the world.
If recent reports for even tourist visas are any indication, it could be months, but at least weeks, until you hear anything back from them.
If recent reports for even tourist visas are any indication, it could be months, but at least weeks, until you hear anything back from them.
Randy ******
Canada is like France national soccer team … Wink, wink. No wonder Thais scrutinize canadian passports!
Brandon ************
@Randy *****
actually the Thai consulate in Vancouver is very good, but the one in Ottawa is terrible.
Rok ********
@Brandon ***********
and London is right there at the top of the fastest. My non-o was processed within a day.Max *************
@Rok *******
Really?
Dennis ***********
@Brandon ***********
Ottawa can be a nightmare for a simple Tourist Visa
Dave **********
@Brandon ***********
Paris are by far the worst. My friend in UK applied in UK and got his visa in less than 12 days. Mine in Paris was 6 weeks. Uploaded everything, but got requested for additional information 3 times. jobsworths..Max *************
Dave FurnivalThere are embassies in Europe where applicants gets their tourist visas in 4-5 days.
Henrik *****
What kind of visa .
How long time before did you apply ?
How long time before did you apply ?
Danny *******
OP@Brandon ***********
damn, thanks for the heads up. Hopefully it's not a crazy long wait 🤞Activity
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