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Can you use the DTV multiple entry visa to stay in Thailand for the whole year by leaving and re-entering?
Ok so here's my question...
With the DTV it's a multiple entry visa that allows you to stay up to 180 days each entry. Does that mean that you can leave and re enter and essentially stay the whole year and so on and so on?
With the DTV it's a multiple entry visa that allows you to stay up to 180 days each entry. Does that mean that you can leave and re enter and essentially stay the whole year and so on and so on?
Answer summary
Yes, the DTV (Digital Nomad Visa) is a multiple entry visa that allows you to stay in Thailand for up to 180 days each time you enter. You can leave and re-enter to extend your stay, effectively allowing you to spend most of the year in Thailand as long as you follow immigration guidelines. However, it is recommended to check for any updates from Thai immigration authorities regarding the DTV visa details and conditions.
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Kami ******
Yes🎉🎉🎉
Mar *****
Correct ✅
Alexander ****
yeh you can do ANYTHING with the dtv lol.
Graham ******
@Alexander ***
except stay continuously for over 360 days ;)
Marko ******
You answered your own question 🤣
Sammy **********
Can you sign up to any cooking school ? To apply for the DTV
Greta *****
OPThis DTV visa is basically a way to get whomever wants to stay in Thailand for up to 5 years as long as they don't work in Thailand for a Thai company. Not so complicated to understand. The government is benefiting from it regardless just by people enrolling to courses and training and spending money on accommodation and other expenses
Sammy **********
And what about an overseas property portfolio, that rented out and managed remotely
Jim ********
@Sammy *********
No issue. That's what I'll be doing. Remote workingJim ********
@Al**
Provided you've got some documentation to support your claim, absolutely
Al**
@Jim *******
So if I have rental properties in the US and have property management taking care of them, I can just say I "manage" the properties as a landlord remotely? And that will count as a remote worker?Colin *********
@Sammy *********
I don't think there's been anything Official from the Thai government yet, but some on Facebook seem to think it will be limited to government approved cooking schools only. Common sense to me, says that if that's the case, it's not going to be short courses of only 2 weeks or so and more expensive than non-government approved courses. It might be that Extensions in the visa will require signing up for further courses, suiting foreigners who want to start up or further their career in cooking, rather than someone just looking to improve their home cooking skills. Just my common sense thoughts.
Andy ************
@Colin ********
If people who sit in cafes playing on their computers can get five years why shouldn't cooking students?Greta *****
OP@Sammy *********
There were no exclusions on that so I'd say YES. Or you'll find out once they reject your application and keep your money ...
Nick ************
Makes the 5 year elite look a bit pricey.
Colin *********
@Nick ***********
it does, but is it as cheap as it seems ($10k Baht officially, but Embassies are charging between 13k & 18k)? There's been varying opinions as to whether that will be a one-off fee or per entry or per 6 months. Has there been (other than the ones that have paid for the first Visa) any "Official" confirmation? I haven't seen anything yet. Will the 500k financial proof only be for the initial Visa application, or required for Extensions also?Nick ************
@Colin ********
plus whether the soft option like a language course is still running or completed weeks ago. A lot of unknowns.Andy ************
@Colin ********
Yes there was an interview with one of the MFA head honchos last week. There's a 1900 baht fee for in country extensions, border entry no feeJim ********
Five years. Best visa ever. It'll replace retired/married/ed/volunteer visas
Jim ***********
@Jim *******
if doesn't get scrapped or changed on my renewal of Non O will go for thisJim ********
@Jim **********
This is what I'll be doingJim ***********
@Colin ********
yes agree. 5 year visa on a hospital appointment seems strange.Colin *********
@Jim **********
that may be true, but are these people going to come back every 6 months or whatever for operations over a 5 year period? It can't be as simple as come on DTV for one operation and be allowed multiple entries over 5 years just for one operation. Common sense, to me, says it can't be that simple. While it may seem that way right now, nobody knows what Immigration input will be on DTV's and they likely will have plenty.Jim ***********
@Jim *******
I'm on multi entry or would leave expire visa apply this now. But need wait til April for expiryJim ***********
@Jim *******
seems to good be trueJim ********
@Jim **********
Yep. It's the easiest visa ever to getJim ***********
@Jim *******
apparently someone booked hospital appointment and qualified for this visa.Colin *********
I'm stand corrected if anyone has very up to date information, but everything that anyone knows about the DTV so far, has come from the Thailand Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Embassies/Consulates. Immigration will probably have a lot of say on the details of this Visa as the weeks and months go by. There's still a lot of unkowns right now.
Randy ******
downside: If you live in Thailand for more than 180 days, you pay TAXES
Colin *********
@Randy *****
there's been plenty of mention over the past year or so on Thai Immigration clamping down a bit on those using Visa Exempt entries to live much of the year in Thailand. While that's gone from 30 days to 60 days now, giving tourists longer holiday stays, I think this, along with the new DTV's, Thailand might be looking to catch more foreigners in their 'Tax net'Jim ********
@Randy *****
Not necessarily. Only income brought into the country is tax assessable, and this is offset against tax already paid elsewhereColin *********
@Jim *******
I would hope soJim ********
@Colin ********
I think we all know that's never going to happen, and if it does it's for the mega-rich, not for retired expats! 😂😂😂Colin *********
@Jim *******
and you should know that Thailand is currently considering taxing Worldwide income. It may or may not happen, but other countries do it,so Thailand might follow suit.
Evan ********
@Colin ********
I think those that already got it and entered are pretty relevant plus many writing about their approval process so yes you stand corrected for sure 🤣Colin *********
@Evan *******
so you think you're funny... yeah right! It's not been a full month yet since the DTV 'went live'. How many of those that have had their DTV's approved and entered Thailand on them up until now? I've seen plenty of mentions of approvals, but yet to see any mentions of arriving on them. If there are any, how many of those have reported about what their dealings with Immigration were like, what Immigration have told them about the 'finer details' are? The YouTube video by RW4U that @Marty ********
mentioned, the MFA representative, when asked about how much DTV Extensions would cost, said "I believe 1900 Baht".. He wasn't sure in reality. As Tim Newton, on his YouTube channel "TNT" said, the Immigration Office always have a big say on the details of Visas and there's been nothing from them yet. Some will quote as facts, blogs, videos Newspaper articles etc, but this early, there's very few details available officially, only reports of DTV approvals and even those, are from applicants such as Digital Nomads, Fereelancers etc., there's no confirmation about'soft power' DTV's.Jim ********
@Colin ********
Ignore the Deputy DIrector-General of the Department of Consular Affairs at Thailand’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs, but listen to Tim Newton? Is this serious? Well you're most definitely in the running for the "Laugh Out Loud Comment Of The Day" 😂😂😂Evan ********
@Colin ********
wrong again mate! You need to research a “lot” more. Plenty arrived on DTV already. It started 15.07.24. Nearly a month ago sheesh. Seems you’re a glass half empty guy. Even Tim said similar things, did you see his live DTV where he discussed many of these issues even though he said he has no idea and not an expert. There are already many posts of people getting and arriving on DTV soft power approvals too. Are you saying they are fake or something?Maybe get informed before stating things you are clearly ignorant of.
Greta *****
OP@Jim *******
Sure is. I think from the Thai government is a way to generate more money from visa fees, and income for locals so they don't really careJim ********
@Colin ********
Fortunately if DTV holders play their cards right, there will be no visits to immigration for five years
Bob **********
@Jim *******
ExactlyBob **********
@Jim *******
and you really believe Thailand is going to give people a 5 year visa and get nothing out of it good luck as nobody knows what this new tax nonsense is I’m sure taxed pensions will not be taxed but admitting your here to work will seeJim ********
@Bob *********
People said the same about the LTR, but nothing changed there! The DTV has been selling like hot cakes. It's a fabulous visaBob **********
@Jim *******
it’s to good to be true just give it some timeJim ********
@Bob *********
Yes only a few weeks and yet it's becoming possibly the most popular Thai visa in history. It seems EVERYBODY is applying for one. I will be as soon as I'm back in Australia. Get off this cumbersome non-O retirement visa, and onto the DTV. Five years, it ends up being cheaper than the non-O for frequent travellersBob **********
@Jim *******
nobody does it’s only been around literally weeksJim ********
@Bob *********
You really don't understand the DTV do you?Bob **********
@Jim *******
after you spend 180 days in Thailand and your a digital nomad you admitted it on the application are you paying taxes on what your earning while inside Thailand???Jim ********
@Bob *********
Money remitted to Thailand can come from any source, doesn't have to be from earnings as a DM. In my case it comes from a closed super account, so is exempt taxationBob **********
@Jim *******
so the money you make which obviously you’ll need to live in Thailand is taxed as you’ll need to access it from thailandJim ********
@Bob *********
You don't pay taxes in Thailand on money earned in another country. Thailand only taxes money earned inside Thailand, and untaxed money "remitted" to Thailand.Greta *****
OP@Jim *******
I just can't see how people can stay 5 years for enrolling for a 2 weeks cooking class. It's bizarre
Stephan ***********
@Jim *******
Yeah... that's what I thought... you have nothing to prove your claims. And if you would know the country you would also know that spoken words are absolutely worthless. Never mind... I'll take your advice and enjoy the beach... 😁Jim ********
@Stephan **********
So the actual SPOKEN words of Naruchai Ninnad, Deputy DIrector-General of the Department of Consular Affairs at Thailand’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs, is not a reliable source? Go have another beer buddy and switch off your phone! 😂😂😂😂😂Jim ********
@Stephan **********
Just this interview on YouTube? 😂😂😂😂😂. You're a scream!Stephan ***********
@Jim *******
"...already confirmed by MFA..."Do you have any reliable (written) source for that? Or just this interview on youtube?
Jim ********
@Stephan **********
At this point the DTV is a standard extension for 1900. Already confirmed by MFA. Also confirmed no further proof of anything required at re-entry. Just show visaJim ********
@Bob *********
On re-entry you don't have to prove anything. Just show your five year visa and get your 180 day stampStephan ***********
@Jim *******
Not correct? Well... as I said before... there are two different statements about the price for this extension. And just the fact that all extensions cost 1,900 isn't a guarantee that they don't charge more for a brand new type of visa. About frequent travelling... where is it written that you don't have to show the money again and/or prove of workation or soft power?Many things are still unclear, we need to wait... just "wishful thinking" isn't helpful at the moment...
Jim ********
@Stephan **********
Not quite correct. Extensions are 1900 baht at an immigration office, but as a frequent traveller I'll be in and out of the country so I'll simply get stamped in for 180 days each time I enter, therefore avoiding any immigration officeStephan ***********
@Bob *********
My thoughts... I don't believe that they give away 5 years for one doctor's appointment and a one time proof of money. There will be some catch for sure...Stephan ***********
@Greta ****
That's exactly the point... nobody knows for sure yet what will happen if you want to extend at the immigration or when you re-enter. Do you need to show a new "soft power"? What about the 500k? What about the price for the extension? Some say 1,900 others say 10k? Everything is just hearsay at the moment... time will tell...Bob **********
@Greta ****
ain’t going to happen and on re entry you may have to prove that 500kJim ********
@Greta ****
It's a game changer. Let's embrace it!
Marty *********
@Colin ********
There are two interviews of Naruchai Ninnad, Deputy DIrector-General of the Department of Consular Affairs at Thailand’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs. One on the YouTube channel RW4U and the other is a Bangkok Post podcast. Search for “Deeper Dive Thailand” on a podcast app.Marty *********
You need to leave and re-enter the next day
Jack ********
@Marty ********
why wouldn’t the same day work ?Marty *********
@Jack *******
There have been several interviews of Naruchai Ninnad, Deputy DIrector-General of the Department of Consular Affairs at Thailand’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs. In one of those interviews, I think the podcast. he specifically said that you had to return the next day. Feel free to do whatever you want.If you want to listen to the podcast then go to your podcast app and search “Deeper Dive Thailand”. It is a podcast from the Bangkok Post.
Marty *********
@Colin ********
Calm down everybody. Do whatever the heck you want to do.If the question is - can I do a border run the same day then I would advise that maybe/maybe not but you will be pretty darn safe if you come back the next day.
I'm happy to hear the results of anyone with a DTV who tests the system and reports on it.
Colin *********
@Marty ********
"repeating"... So you blindly take as gospel the words of a guy, whoever he may be, that when asked a question, responds with an answer that includes the words "I believe..."? Using those two words indicates he isn't sure about what he's saying. Do you disagree with that?There's been nothing official from Thai Immigration on this yet, but read the comments in this post by Chris Nadon.
Tore *********
@Marty ********
there’s a between “can return the next say” and “have to return the next day” 😉 DTV is a multi entry visa like any other multi entry visa. Nothing has changed in regards to exit/entry timingGraham ******
@Marty ********
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Marty *********
@Graham *****
Feel free to do what you want. I’m just repeating what the only government official giving interviews about the DTV is saying. You must know better.Graham ******
@Marty ********
The MFA do not control Immigration which comes under the Ministry of the InteriorTore *********
@Jack *******
no reason, it does
Damo ***********
Tore *********
@Jack *******
happens to every group that gets big. There’s allot of “unsharpened knives” out there 😅Jack ********
@Tore ********
amazing how people just make things upStuart *********
Yes. Leave and reenter to get another 180 days until the visa expires.
Greg *********
@Stuart ********
Is this a better deal than the non-O married visa then? 🤔Stuart *********
@Greg ********
That’s subjective. On the face of it it seems to be. You won’t want to be getting an extension as it’s 10,000 baht but by bouncing you can get a 5 year stay. The offset is that you can’t work for a Thai company in Thailand on the DTV, but you can on a marriage visa/extension.
Greg *********
@Stuart ********
hmmm... tempting option...Stuart *********
@Greg ********
They want to see 500k baht equivalent in a local bank account. That’s for the application. We don’t yet know if they’ll need to see anything like that for an extension. But border bounce and it won’t be an issue.
Greg *********
@Stuart ********
Any minimum balance requirement with the DTV?Greta *****
OP@Stuart ********
So that's 5 years stay for one short cooking course? 🤔 And when and where do you pay the 1900B for the re activation of the visa?Stuart *********
@Greta ****
??? Where did you hear about a 1,900 baht activation fee?Jim ********
@Stuart ********
Bangkok Immigration will charge 1900 baht for a DTV extension. If your immigration charges differently, that's their prerogative, but somehow I think they'll be losing a lot of customers! 😂Stuart *********
@Jim *******
The MFA has no say on immigration policy.Jim ********
@Stuart ********
But the divisional commander only has authority over his division. He may "go it alone" but it's unlikely others will follow suit if it means stepping outside the policy of the MFAStuart *********
@Jim *******
I’m not spreading misinformation. I’m telling you what a divisional commander of Immigration said the price would be. We will have to wait a while to see who is right.Jim ********
@Stuart ********
You're stating it as if it's a known fact. You really do believe that a 180 extension is the same price as a five year visa. Perhaps stop spreading misinformation, and it won't need to be continually corrected. If seems a lot of people are getting their noses out of joint over this new dream visa. Those who paid over the top for elite and LTR visas I can understand, but those on non-O are now seeing a much simpler and less costly alternative with so many advantages and already many are taking advantage of itStuart *********
@Jim *******
We can agree to disagree until the time comes when it’s time to get an extension and see what is reality.Stuart *********
@James ******
Siam Legal and MFA aren’t immigration. We will see what’s the reality down the road.Jim ********
@Stuart ********
You mean what you're SAYING it is, whereas in reality it's 1900 baht
James *******
@Stuart ********
Siam Legal and Ministry of Foreign affairs say different so let's see.Stuart *********
@James ******
I can’t tell you why as I have no idea. It just is what it is.James *******
@Stuart ********
why would it be 10k anyway, as that could potentially be a lot more than going on 2 day break in Cambodia for example and reentering Thailand for free??Jim ********
@Henrik ****
Checked. No change. *****
baht for five years, multi entry, 180 day stamp each entry. Why are people so bitter and twisted about this visa? It's the new retirement visa. Most retirees I know are cracking open the champagne! 😂😂😂
Henrik *****
@Jim *******
And you better check your own sources, with such ridicoulous youtube source.Stuart *********
@Jim *******
We will have to wait and see. No one is going to be trying to get one for 5 months or so. If the regional head of Division 6 and my boss at immigration say it’s going to be 10k then I have no reason to doubt them. The MFA and Immigration are two entirely different government departments. Immigration set the rules on what happens with visas and extensions in the country.
Different immigration offices often have different requirements for extensions and the like but there is no way that one division will be charging 10k and another 1,900 baht.
Let’s see what transpires.
Jim ********
@Stuart ********
It's not though. It's 1900 baht. I think your guy has made an error. I was at CW last Thursday and the guy there said they'd be charging 1900 baht. Although Bangkok may be different as they tend to do things "by the book".Stuart *********
@Jim *******
All other extensions are 1,900 baht regardless on length. I have no idea on the reasons why they’ve priced the DTV extension at 10kJim ********
@Stuart ********
Maybe they have different policies. Most of Thailand extensions are 1900 baht. Division 6 are going it alone! 😂Stuart *********
@Jim *******
Division 6.Jim ********
@Stuart ********
Which Province?Stuart *********
@Jim *******
From the regional boss of Immigration.Jim ********
@Stuart ********
I think my source is a little more reliable than yours! Where did you get this 10,000 from?Stuart *********
@Jim *******
Ministry of Foreign Affairs sell the visas. Immigration set out the rules.Jim ********
@Stuart ********
Perhaps check your sources. I'll stick with the statement from the guy from MFA. Fast forward to about 13:00************************************************
Stuart *********
@Jim *******
I don’t think so. Check your sources. The extension fee for the DTV is 10,000 baht. Why anyone would ever do that is a mystery, but that’s the fee.Jim ********
@Greta ****
It's not "reactivation" when you re-enter. The visa is still valid for the five years, you simply get a new entry stamp for 180 daysJim ********
@Stuart ********
Way off the mark! Extension is 1900 baht! 😂
Chris *******
@Greta ****
yes you need only to prove the 500k at application and reason for the visa.Remote worker , programs etc.
At this point you only need to prove the funds once, just like a 1YR OA VISA, multientry and can be stretched to almost 2 yrs with bounces.
But if you extend in country you need to meet the criteria again.
It is a bit of a too good to be true scenario right now.
My opinion is that there will be changes, but for those that get one now it's golden.
**THERE are varying reports from different embassies on how to prove the funds and requirements, this embassy specific.
Embassies and immigration are 2 separate things.
The embassy grants the visa.
The rules for the visa
entry are under immigration.
So each embassy will decide what you need to get it.
Greta *****
OP@Chris ******
Right, but for the non O you need a Thai bank account and money in the bank. For the DTV it sounds like you just need to apply lolChris *******
@Greta ****
yes as long as you bounce out and back.Only the extensions cost.
It's the same principle as any multientry visa.
And I suggest anyone thinking about it to apply right away.
**and it's not a large saving, for example a non-o is 2000b fir the original visa then 1900b for yearly renewal.
So for 5 years it's would be
*****
b.Greta *****
OP@Chris ******
So you're saying that you can basically stay for 5 years for the initial visa fee of *****
B? 🤔Chris *******
@Greta ****
what kind of nonsense are you saying?There is no such thing as reactivation.
If you leave the country and renter you are simply stamped back in for 180 days. No cost.
It is a "multientry" visa.
To extend incountry for another 180 days, you will have to provide proof of funds and possible ongoing activities.
The fee for the extension is currently set at 10k, it is unclear if this will actually be the case as we are months from anyone extending.
@Stu***
is correct.Greta *****
OP@Stuart ********
This is not an 'extension'. It's re activation. Two different things. Extension can be done while your still IN the country. If you need to leave the country it's 're activation" And you call yourself an 'expert'? 🤔
Stuart *********
@Amanda *********************
To extend the DTV for another 180 days costs 10,000 baht.Andy ************
@Amanda *********************
Just border bounce. Don't bother about extending
Amanda **********************
@Stuart ********
To extend the visa for another 6 months, there is a fee. It doesn’t make sense that it’ll be totally free to leave and come back?
That way, no one would bother extending the visa and would be doing visa runs instead
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