If you are Dutch, you also have the option of non-immigrant O-X for 10 years instead of LTR.

In my opinion, the yearly extension of non-O based on over 50 (retirement) is still much better value than either LTR or O-X. But maybe you could find it worth it - only you can decide what is best for you :

-non-–-immigrant-visa-“o-x”-(long-stay-10-years)

@Todd ********

As we all know, div 1 has never heard about your special deal. So we're still waiting for your answer in this visa "advice" group, after more than half a year already. But as you admitted earlier : not a clue. (See previous screenshot).

See you again in a few months as usual.

@Todd ********

So if not by bribery, what method did you personally use to circumvent the financial regulations ? Teach us something... Why did your passport had to go all the way up North instead of being handled at Koh Samui ? Sure there is a reasonable explanation. I must have been mistaken, therefore I humbly ask your specific method.

@Todd ********

Can't back up your arguments, so Mr "I don't have a clue by his own admission" has to resort to feeble threats ? Priceless.... 🤣

You're the one suggesting circumventing official rules. Unless your method is official, in which case you can provide a link.

@Todd ********

don't forget to delete everything. Wonder why you have to send your passport to the North..

@Russell ******

Exactly, but everything is about correct information so that each can make an informed decision. Todd is just plainly lying when claiming it is legal. It is not. Just saying "you can get around official requirements by letting an agent take care of it" would be enough. But claiming everything is legal and one is stupid for not using that option is blatant misinformation.

@Todd ********

Just need a link to the procedure which doesn't exist. Paste and post, 1 minute work to prove your procedure which doesn't exist legally.

Weirdly my close friend working at div 1 immigration also says it's just plain bribery, there is no legal way to circumvent the financial requirements.

@Todd ********

you don't need an agent if it's legal.. just point all of us to the procedure..

Anything legal can be done with or without an agent. But bribing should indeed be done through an agent.

But you yourself admitted once you have no clue how the agent does it, which explains why you never once answered the procedure, and so how would you then claim that you know it's legal if you have no clue (by your own admission) ? The simple test of legality is : tell us the procedure how to do it ourselves.

And why does your paperwork has to be sent to the an immigration office in the North instead of where you reside ? Your own office can't do it ?

@Robert *****

It is illegal. Just ask Todd and his buddy William how you have to do it without an agent. They never ever answer that question because they have no clue how to do it.

IF it were a normal legal procedure, it would be easy to point you to the law. The financial requirements are clear.

IF it were legal, you coukd do it yourself, which is 2000 baht to apply for the imitial 3 month non-O and 1900 baht for the yearly extension.

But Todd has failed to show how you can do it. He uses an agent bribing immigration, but either has no clue, or to scared to admit.

You can find the financial requirements on the webpage of immigration :



Go to 22 : visa extension, in the case of retirement.

It clearly explqins the financial criteria.

I can give easy proof, but Todd and his body have never given any proof despite my repeated requests for almost a year now. And he has never made these rant- claims in the other visa group, which is the original group moderated by experts. Here he and his friend know they can get away with misinformation.

Sure he gets away with letting an agent bribe immigration, like so many others do. But the correct information is that it is illegal. Now if you want to follow that path just like Todd is up to you.

Just ask Todd to give a link to the criteria how he obtains his extension with "his" method. He won't because he can't. He's just lying, or he has absolutely no clue what his agent does.

@Todd ********

absolutely illegal way to get your stamps. Don't spread wrong information. But you can prove me wrong and explain the procedure how you got your real stamps in a legal way.

Doesn't matter that the staml is a real one. The stamps are not fake, nobody ever told that. But you got it through bribery. That's how your agent got it, that's what you paid for.

Isn't it strange that you are incapable of explaining the correct procedure on how you got that stamp ? H

What are the exact steps, how do you bypass the financial requirements in a legal way. Feel free to explain. Why do you always refuse to help others and refuse to explain that "secret".

Isn't it strange that in the other - original - visa group you never claim this nonsense, because that group is strictly regulated by experts ?

It's bribery. That's how it works. The usual in Thailand, we ALL know it, it's not a secret. But you're afraid just too afraid to admit it.

If it's not bribery, just explain all of us which requirements you use so we don't need an "agent".