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What visa options do I have after getting a Thai girl pregnant?

Joe ********
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Got a thai girl pregnant and I’d like to stay here…. I did 3 border runs this year and was planning on doing 1 more in the new year then applying for an education visa - then a Thai bank account - then probably an o type visa for being the child’s father…. Does anyone have any advice for me to make things a bit more simple please 😩😅
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A foreigner expresses concern about their visa status after getting a Thai girl pregnant. They planned several border runs and considered applying for an education visa, followed by an O-type visa based on being the child’s father. Various comments provide advice, highlighting the complexity of immigration laws, the importance of securing parental rights through marriage, and the need for a paternity test. The necessity of having a Thai bank account is also discussed, raising concerns about the future legal rights and responsibilities regarding the child.
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Bob *****
Bob *****
A lot of unhelpful advice here. I don't like your plan though it probably won't work. you're asking to stretch Thai immigration rules in under the current climate I don't think you will find that possible. find out if the baby is yours and if it is send marry her make sure your name is on birth certificate. go for a proper Visa. if you have a job here get a a visa for that. f over 50 and not going to work get it non-0 Visa. Don't mess around with ty immigration as they will find you out and then it will be tragic if you cannot visit your child for 5 years. if you have any assets go see a lawyer. get a paternity test done toilet paperwork for will and blah blah blah and be prepared for a wild ride because being a father will change you. if you have any doubts about the woman be very careful.
Jim *******
Jim *******
When my (now for 23 years marriage) Thai wife got pregnant, I rushed from Japan the very next day and flight to marry her. Official marriage.

Then, everything went smooth.

The whole family are Permanent residents in Japan, my Thai family are fully fledged Thai citizens, although none of us live in Thai.

It is more for my retirement extensions, non marriage based.
Michael *********
Michael *********
Paternity test then proceed
Ian ********
Ian ********
Assuming you're from North America, Europe or Australia believe me you must get your kid your country's nationality. It gives him much better life prospects. Get in touch with your embassy they will tell you how.
Joe ********
Joe ********
OP
@Ian *******
probably most helpful comment on this. I salute you sir 🫡
Lynnette *******
Lynnette *******
@Joe *******
not every country hands out citizenship to their passport holders. My son was unable to register his son because he'd lived outside of his country 4 years.
Tom *******
Tom *******
Get married and live happily ever after
Ziggy ******
Ziggy ******
Get a DNA test and pray it isn't yours
Chuck **********
Chuck **********
Same as Thai man- run!
Tony ******
Tony ******
Advice? Yeah keep it in your pants.
Marty *********
Marty *********
RUN!!!!
Chuck **********
Chuck **********
Broke in 6 months
Aron **********
Aron **********
Run to them hills
Chuck **********
Chuck **********
You’ll be taking care of all family, buffaloes, dogs etc.
James **********
James **********
@Chuck *********
ffs only if he’s stupid enough,,, give the guy a brake
Joe ********
Joe ********
OP
@James *********
I like animals 😂
Nickna******
Nickna******
Run, Joe, Run!
Ant *******
Ant *******
Nickname9876 Too late me thinks. Started badly and marriage is obviously a 4 letter word.
视灣**
视灣**
next time better stay single

rather than take another girl again

make you crazy all the time most specially if you dont have money
Joe ********
Joe ********
OP
@视灣**
rich with love 🥰 😂
Khun ******
Khun ******
your whole life is a mess
Joe ********
Joe ********
OP
@Khun *****
for now…. It’s been worse 😏😁
Mark ******
Mark ******
Is it yours?
Joe ********
Joe ********
OP
@Mark *****
the Thai girl? Yeah haha and the baby
Clayton **********
Clayton **********
Baby may not even be his... This is Thailand.
Joe ********
Joe ********
OP
@Clayton *********
I love how many people are saying this. I must be lucky
Powell *********
Powell *********
You can get a visa for the child. I was gonna do the child visa but I’m already married to the mother so I did a marriage visa. Just get married it’s so much easier and you only need 400k in a Thai bank account.
Peter ***********
Peter ***********
Wear a condom…
Steve ***********
Steve ***********
****
Joe ********
Joe ********
OP
@Steve **********
is have a sweaty pork sword if I did that
Kevin *********
Kevin *********
Many people here have given you technical details and assists but I think you need to ask and answer the more important questions.

You mentioned you got a Thai girl pregnant and you're looking into a visa for yourself. Hats off to you for being responsible (kinda) but you need to think about....

A. Do you truly love her or are you forcing yourself to love her now that you've made her pregnant? You mentioned Thai girl, not gf or lover or fiancee.

B. Does she truly love you or are just expecting you to do the right thing?

Both of you need to sit down and go through these tough questions before making a terrible mistake for both your futures.

Cheers!
Joe ********
Joe ********
OP
@Kevin ********
don’t worry my friend, we love each other. Haha I just worded it not great because I was tired and it’s besides the point of the post
Russ *******
Russ *******
Yea, move to cambodia lol. Thai visa rules have gone loopy. sod that
Michael ********
Michael ********
🤣🤣 wtf
Truth-*******
Truth-*******
Should have been wearing your rain coat buddy, go to doctors now for STI tests
Barry ********
Barry ********
Try another border run and keep running
Truth-*******
Truth-*******
FUCK THAT SHIT! Get your ass home, write it off as bad boom boom and move on
Shelly *************
Shelly *************
Baby daddy won't be enough for Thai immigration. Having a Thai wife is plus for your status. Consult immgration website. Much better than getting drunken advice. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Miguel **********
Miguel **********
I just want to say it's a lot easier to get the kid a foreign nationality if you aren't married yet. My wife and me were married for years and just did Belgian passports for both our boys, man. First I had to go back to Belgium to officially register my Thai marriage and show birth certificates of the kids to prove it's not a fake marriage etc etc. then I had to wait over a year and then I could finally register them as Belgians and get them a Belgian passport. When your not married it's apparently a lot easier.
Lynnette *******
Lynnette *******
@Miguel *********
it's not always easy. My son couldnt get British passport automatically. He had to take his father's US nationality. Now his son can't get USA passport.
David ********
David ********
The Child Is Yours ??
Joe ********
Joe ********
OP
@David *******
yeah mate haha
David ********
David ********
Good luck. Hope you can get married prior to the birth and then things are done. The other way sounds terribly long and expensive. Enjoy the baby
Joe ********
Joe ********
OP
@David *******
thanks bud
Will ******
Will ******
You can get a parent visa without marrying. But you will most likely have to get your parental rights legally recognized in court.
Vladimir ************
Vladimir ************
Prenaptual agreement
Istanbullu *****
Istanbullu *****
@Vladimir ***********
doesn't work!
Will ******
Will ******
Yes just apply for the parent visa straight away. Use an agent for application.
Harvey ********
Harvey ********
“Western civilization”
Lee *************
Lee *************
Got her pregnant..... need to Get Married
Joe *******
Joe *******
@Lee ************
no you don’t!
Lee *************
Lee *************
@Joe ******
If your a man you step up simple, but if a rat scurry away
Joe *******
Joe *******
@Lee ************
she’s probably waiting for you to die so she can get out of the marriage and get some decent dick again!

Does she hang her coat on your nose?
Joe *******
Joe *******
@Lee ************
you look old and weak as f@ck dude! I bet you can’t even get it up anymore.
Lee *************
Lee *************
@Joe ******
yep, with ethos, not like the weak punks of today that just love standing my grass.
Joe *******
Joe *******
@Lee ************
oh, I just saw how old you are! I guess it was just the way you were brought up 😂
Joe *******
Joe *******
@Lee ************
I guess if you still live in The 1960’s!

Some people don’t believe in it, why does a piece of paper make any difference?
Aaron ********
Aaron ********
Marry her, you can get a marriage visa. If you're going to wait until the child is born and get a kid visa, the marriage still makes it easier.
James **********
James **********
@Aaron *******
Dependence visa is even easier .
Aaron ********
Aaron ********
@James *********
yes, i called it a "kid visa", it is easier than a marriage visa...and it's also easier to get if you are married.
John ******
John ******
Condom
Deborah *********
Deborah *********
@John *****
too late for the advice 🤣
Graham ******
Graham ******
If you do go to court then this post will not help your case as it might be regarded that your priority is to get a visa not care for the child
James ********
James ********
Wear a condom next time.
Marcus ************
Marcus ************
You can hire a Visa agent to make the process easier. I don’t have the patience for it. You need to think about what type of income you will be bringing in here. You can’t just work any job in Thailand. They restrict work we can do.
Chuck **********
Chuck **********
You screwed up, border runs and all,
Joe ********
Joe ********
OP
@Chuck *********
what you mean?
Chuck **********
Chuck **********
@Joe *******
All the border rental, not a proper visa. I don’t know you might have some problems.
Joe *******
Joe *******
I’ve just been through pretty much the same thing, I’ve been here nearly 2 years and I’m not married to my girlfriend. We have a 7 month old boy. Talk to a lady called Grace at the Thai visa centre.

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Joe *******
Joe *******
You will need permission from the mother to have parental rights, immigration came to my house in udon Thani and took photos of us all. It cost me 45,000 baht.
Joe *******
Joe *******
Also, ignore all the judgemental old arseholes in here
Nigel *********
Nigel *********
Be advised that immigration will not accept children to be dependants of foreign fathers, only mothers can be that
Garry *******
Garry *******
@Rachel *******
why the angry face on my post
Rachel ********
Rachel ********
@Garry ******
I disagree a child should take the father's surname - especially if he doesn't have the foresight to marry her before carelessly impregating her. She's the one carrying it, birthing it, breastfeeding, with all the physical, hormonal and emotional repercussions, not to mention it's in her country. I could go on, but in a nutshell, I strongly disagree with your advice...
Garry *******
Garry *******
@Rachel *******
who do you think will be paying for the kid ? Surely not the mother . Are you Thai ? Or have Thai children ??
Rachel ********
Rachel ********
@Garry ******
I have a Thai child and I pay for EVERYTHING.
Dzhoel ******
Dzhoel ******
DNA test
Tania **********
Tania **********
OMG …
Oliver *******************
Oliver *******************
As you will have responsibility for a child you will be able to get the Non O visa, you will need 400k at least 3 months before into a Thai bank account. You don't need to get married but it does help.
Soren **********
Soren **********
Abortion
Soren **********
Soren **********
Stop being led around by your dick
Andrew ********
Andrew ********
The reason for getting someone pregnant is to stay here ? Don't work that way...
Joe ********
Joe ********
OP
@Andrew *******
that’s a strange assumption but thanks for coming
Tayaout *****************
Tayaout *****************
Get married. You don't even need a ceremony. You just need to fill paperwork at the tessaban. I have a similar story, and have been happily married for 7 years with two children.
Connie *****
Connie *****
Next time use protection haha! Congratulations and best wishes.
视灣**
视灣**
why got thai girl pregnant?
Joe ********
Joe ********
OP
@视灣**
Chinese one wasn’t available
Dany ********
Dany ********
Make sure you are the father and not getting scammed here ;) dont trust anyone. Best of luck 🤞
Inspirin*********
Inspirin*********
Could’ve stopped after the first 5 words & just posted a pic of a bomb going off🤣🥴
Av **********
Av **********
R u sure …
Mike *******
Mike *******
You’re a good man, Charlie Brown.
John **********
John **********
Firstly get a DNA test sorted. If you dont know what DNA is i.ll help ya. NATIONAL ASSOCIATION DYSLEXICS
Thai *******
Thai *******
FFS
Sissi *******
Sissi *******
"got a Thai pregnant", "the child father". What a strange way to talk about them. You seem more interested in the visa than anything else...
Colin *********
Colin *********
Marry the woman, it's the only way and the right thing to do. Though, with your recent history as you've stated it in this post, it's highly unlikely that it's going to be easy to get in on further tourist entries, as since November, Immigration have been cracking down on those doing multiple Border Runs over a short period of time like you have.
John *********
John *********
Find a good Thai visa service....and ignore the negative comments...good luck
Mel ************
Mel ************
Simple……MARRY her!
Colin *********
Colin *********
Unless you're going to marry the girl and support her and the child, get yourself castrated... there's too many irresponsible men in the world!
Brian *******
Brian *******
Condom !🥲
Pete ********
Pete ********
Use there vip entry service or visa run service …. 110% no issues going in and out of country 60 times as long as you use this agent
John **********
John **********
Your next border run is potentially problematic and you risk being denied entry on that. An ED visa is only any good if you will attend all the classes at the school in person and don't plan to leave the country while on it. Your next move really should depend on your plans for the future, you don't say if you are in a relationship with the girl or it was just a bit of a fling but if you want to live with the girl and the baby then getting married is the simplest option.
SincereP*********
SincereP*********
Non -o parent. Just make sure you are on the birth certificate. One of the Least intrusive visas possible for foreigners. They want you to be able to

Take care of the Thai child. I hope that you would have a relationship with the mother to help the overall situation. Best of luck
Trevor ******
Trevor ******
You are the reason Thailand is cracking down on visa runs.
Mark ********
Mark ********
Put a bag on it next time
Ken *****
Ken *****
I had all the right plans, worked out?

Two daughters.

But got left in thailand with them.

That was fine, but it was hard,

And without the proper paperwork.

And a letter from her to say she doesn’t want to look after the child?

Your naffed.

When the child is born. You have a short time to register in the British embassy .

Overseas father.

Get the birth certificate, translated.

Into English.

And get the child’s first passport as soon as you can 5 years. First one.

If she bails on you?

At least you can get home with the child.

Hopefully, you will all be happy, and live your time out, enjoying your family.

But try to be ready.

In case!! That’s all.

I have been back now with my two that were 6@2.

For 12 years now.

Good luck. Get the right girl. You can be happy.
Bill **********
Bill **********
You don't say much about the girl .Is she your girlfriend ?Do you love her ?Why didn't you use a condom ? etc
Steve ***********
Steve ***********
@Bill *********
or a different hole, 555
Frank **********
Frank **********
Wayne **********
Wayne **********
💍
Brook ********
Brook ********
1, Paternity test.

2. Birth certificate.

3.Non-O visa based on supporting Thai child or marriage visa.

4. Dual citizenship for both child and you.
Michael **********
Michael **********
Run Forest, Run.
Michael **********
Michael **********
That wasn't good advice. It just so happened I was watching Forest Gump at that moment and the whiskey thought it was good humor but the consequences of bringing a child into this world are real. So, do what Forest did and walk that child to and from the school bus every day.
Terry ***********
Terry ***********
Once the baby is born get a DNA test Straight away. 😂
Brandon *********
Brandon *********
Paul *******
Paul *******
should have kept it in your pants mate, you have just opened up a can of worms
Derek ***********
Derek ***********
A condom
Maii *****
Maii *****
Please take care of you're baby forever. This baby now depends on you're citizenship in you're country and you. Organise it ASAP! 😊

Because when my unmarried farang dad parted n separated w my Thai mum, everything was set up so he could take me out to his homeland where i ended up being raised by his extended family. Please dont leave ur child all alone in TH if ur relationship goes south. I have a Thai 1st name and dads last name, but my dad hired a lawyer and agent to sort out my thai registration n birth certificate into English n made sure both he and mum were perfectly on both.

goodluck! And congratulations!
Wal *********
Wal *********
You sure its yours? Asking for a friend
John **********
John **********
Contact Scott Mallon/An American in Bangkok on You Tube for a consultation.... he has lived in BKK over 20 years and has a Thai wife/kids.. will be money well spent.
Steve ***********
Steve ***********
Very expensive condom
Martin ********
Martin ********
@Steve **********
another helpful American well done
Steve ***********
Steve ***********
@Martin *******
is this sarcasm or anti American tough guy
Martin ********
Martin ********
@Steve **********
It's anti stupid comments when someone is looking for friendly helpful advice not judgmental criticism. Have a good day Mr Fortefyve and a happy new year. I hope your troubles are insignificant 🙏🏻
Bob ********
Bob ********
DON'T!!!
Nick *******
Nick *******
Seems ur more worried about a visa than the girl & baby. Fool
Arthur ********
Arthur ********
@Nick ******
if he can’t get a visa he just will have to leave and abandon her, so makes sense to think about visa and post it in a visa group
David *********
David *********
Run lol
Adelia *******
Adelia *******
Youre over 40 so you shoudnt be calling a WOMAN a 'girl' unless theyre under the age of 18? And if she is, than thats gross 🥰🥰
Martin ********
Martin ********
@Adelia ******
So. I have two daughters and one is 38 one is 36 I call them my girls. Not my women which sounds controlling and completely wrong. Also, if you have a girlfriend who is 40, 50, 60 years old what on earth do you call her? Your "woman friend" or like everybody else on the planet do you call her your girlfriend?
Jonah *****
Jonah *****
@Adelia ******
says you. Some women don't mind being referred to as such ,Indeed, they refer to themselves as such. Is it wrong? Don't know, it's their choice I would say
Adelia *******
Adelia *******
@Jonah ****
yes maybe generally but not a WOMAN who is giving birth to your child. Thats a WOMAN.

The CHILD might be reffered to as a girl, who is not born a woman but blossoms into one as she reaches puberty however the one having the child? thats a WOMAN. Please if youre not going to respect women (which i already know many men who go to Thailand for women do not respect the women there) then dont speak. 🥰
Jonah *****
Jonah *****
@Adelia ******
I guess if she doesn't mind ( and we will never know) then why should you? As I said some WOMEN refer to themselves as a "girl" . I can see that it may irritate a woman who feels that hard fought for equality has thus been eroded by a woman calling herself a girl but that is up to them surely?Ad it is your choice to be offended by it
Garry *******
Garry *******
@Adelia ******
comment about helping

It be quite girl
Martin ********
Martin ********
@Adelia ******
so helpful. Well done 👍🏻
Robin *******
Robin *******
Do a DNA test, if it's yours then marry her and get a marriage visa.
Randy *******
Randy *******
@Robin ******
I got married to a Thai lady this year and I got the  marriage visa with the one year extension.  I used an agent there’s no way I could’ve figured it out without a good agent lots of paperwork.
Garry *******
Garry *******
@Robin ******
sad but true .
Sean ******
Sean ******
Need to marry the mum as a kid out of wed lock you aren't recognized as the legal father
John *****
John *****
@Sean *****
or go to court to get parental responsibility
Garry *******
Garry *******
But of advise . Even you’re not married to the lady . When the baby is born make sure the baby has your last name . Amphur may say because your not married cannot have farang name . This is a lie . It happen to me

But must have your last name translated into Thai for amphur for the birth certificate
Nongnuch ********
Nongnuch ********
@Garry ******
you cannot get parental rights for the child if it is born out of wedlock, your name on a birth certificate does not cut any ice on Immigration unless you go through an agent and pay a hefty sum of tea money +
Garry *******
Garry *******
@Nongnuch *******
I didn’t say it would . Just get the name on the birth certificate so he can make the child a citizen in his home country . Or you have to change the name later . More paper work .

I speak from experience do you
Floyd ******
Floyd ******
If your intentions are to take care of the child the Visa is not important what you need to do is marry the girl you will hear a lot of people tell you that's not the right thing to do but those fools are just there for the fun of it children are not fun they're a big responsibility
Daniele ***********
Daniele ***********
How many months more we talking about before you can get a birth certificate? Just go to an agent with that. You also need 400k in thai bank, no idea how to open one without visa, I guess agent will help with that as well
Vance *********
Vance *********
Run like fuck away
Vance *********
Vance *********
The first three times yes . Then i found the right one
Lynnette *******
Lynnette *******
Sam ********
Sam ********
@Vance ********
terrible advice amd you should probably try finding a wife closer to your own age thay isn't just with you for money.
Oli *******
Oli *******
@Sam *******
he is a old ugly loser. No younger woman want him. They all only want his money. They are using him because he is an idiot. Fuck you for your advice Vance!
Lau ******
Lau ******
everything is so wrong. Got a thai pregnant . the child father . poor women . poor kid. you just trying to get a visa using this poor future child ..
Jen ***
Jen ***
Irresponsible man boy!!! You are the problem with this world!!! Always thinking of self!!!
Martin ********
Martin ********
@Lau *****
And you know this how ? Just for once consider that this guy is genuinely trying to do the right thing and it's asking people for advice. Who are you to judge someone you have never met and know nothing about
Richard ********
Richard ********
Buy a box or 3 of tissues
Martin ********
Martin ********
@Richard *******
yeah....you look like a tissue user 👍🏻
Richard ********
Richard ********
@Martin *******
yes Marty of course👍
Martin ********
Martin ********
@Richard *******
❤️‍🩹
Brendan ********
Brendan ********
Make sure 100% she is pregnant.
Leonard ********
Leonard ********
@Brendan *******
yes.

And is yours.❓❓
James **********
James **********
Dependencey visa you don’t have to be married ,,, get name on birth certificate,,, your are going to have big issues as border runs are under a big looking glass right now ,, get a agent and a bloody good one your in a right mess
Brandon ************
Brandon ************
@James *********
You still need parental rights, which just getting your name on the birth certificate does not do.
Rich ****
Rich ****
Thai Bank account no longer possible with ED visa
THAI ******************************
THAI ******************************
@Rich ***
Incorrect, we assist with this under 1 year ED.
Markus ********
Markus ********
@Rich ***
not correct
Chuck **********
Chuck **********
Stephen *******
Stephen *******
Grant *********
Grant *********
Run 🏃‍♀️
Leonard ********
Leonard ********
@Grant ********
run faster .
Don *******
Don *******
First you want to marry the girl buy a home and take in her family then make sure you put your name on birth certificate when child born and last get a dna test on baby to find out its not yours
Erik *********
Erik *********
@Don ******
take in the family?
Wayne **********
Wayne **********
Just cause you hang out with whores doesn’t mean everyone else does.

Stop projecting your anxieties. It’s not helpful in visa related questions.
TaupeSh*******
TaupeSh*******
@Don ******
that all gonna cost him so much money! She got him good and will squeeze every penny - for every signature he will want to have ! Sad reality
Us *****
Us *****
@Don ******
what happens if he did everything that you told him and then he finds out that the baby is not his?
Tracey ********
Tracey ********
@Us ****
if he buys a home can't she just take it from him?
Don *******
Don *******
Run
Felipe *******
Felipe *******
Just move to the Philippines and get a girl pregnant there.
Martin ********
Martin ********
@Felipe ******
is that the best you can do ? Not even remotely funny. Are you 12 years old ?
Kenneth *********
Kenneth *********
@Martin *******
true because that's a sad common reality.
Felipe *******
Felipe *******
@Martin *******
bro, they have Jollibee there
Scott *********
Scott *********
Run
Arthur ********
Arthur ********
@Scott ********
don’t even need to run, visa is finished and he just have to leave
Nickna******
Nickna******
@Arthur *******
better yet, he could overstay, get caught, and blacklisted for years
Oli *******
Oli *******
@Scott ********
Joke? If not ..Fuck you Scott! Low level beings!
Colin *********
Colin *********
@Scott ********
ohh, so you're one of those responsible men who can't keep his tool in his pants, then run when you've caused trouble eh? Or just making a joke without indicating that?
Claudio ***************
Claudio ***************
Yes, go have the baby in your home country and give the baby your country citizenship. If not, you are at.risk of becoming kind of an slave.
Kevin *********
Kevin *********
@Claudio **************
what makes you think his country will

a. grant his girl a visa

b. allow her to give birth there?
Tayaout *****************
Tayaout *****************
@Claudio **************
Not all countries grant citizenship automatically to people born on their soil (and for some it might be almost impossible for the Thai mother to get a visa), but I think most, if not all, grant it to the children regardless of where they are born, but sometimes the father needs to be married to pass his citizenship.
Lynnette *******
Lynnette *******
@Claudio **************
slave? Really? All because he's helped create a child. Jeez.
Frankie *****
Frankie *****
@Lynnette ******
what a word - create ? Like he did something noble for the world .. c’mon
Lynnette *******
Lynnette *******
@Frankie ****
it's exactly what happens . . A new life has been created.
Claudio ***************
Claudio ***************
@Lynnette ******
"slave", yes.
Arthur ********
Arthur ********
@Lynnette ******
you have no right even if you married and have a children, you need to prove this all, pay to lawyer, get complicated marriage visa and renew it with tons of documents, and if something goes wrong you always lose, so yeah, you are a slave in this case
Dean ****
Dean ****
@Lynnette ******
Correction THEY created a child.
Graham *******
Graham *******
@Tylah ***************
correct if you know you know
Tylah ****************
Tylah ****************
@Claudio **************
your 100% right. But even with full parental rights the woman can still use and abuse you. Been there... police don't even care to help even when there's evidence of child abuse.. they just say the child should be with the mother and blindly assume all mothers don't abuse their kids or use their kids as pawns for money.
Lynnette *******
Lynnette *******
@Claudio **************
illegal migrant? What crap are you talking about. He is going to be a father, this is his child, he can remain legally in Thailand and help raise his child. Perhaps where you come from children are unimportant.
Claudio ***************
Claudio ***************
@Lynnette ******
have a child in Thailand, as an illegal migrant, with a Thai man, not being married, then dive into the legal system of Thailand, and we'll see. Happy new year Lynnette.
Lynnette *******
Lynnette *******
@Claudio **************
and how is that? He's created a child, he has a responsibility to stand up to his responsibility. That's not being a "slave". Hopefully he'll ignore your nasty comment. I'm sure he'll do the right thing by the lady and the child. Not all men have such little respect for women as you seem to.
Brian *********
Brian *********
@Claudio **************
serious question. Why not have the child here cheaper then just apply for back home citizenship after child Id born? Genuine question
Claudio ***************
Claudio ***************
@Brian ********
because there are too many IFs. If citizenship can be given by the father. If the country gives it to overseas-born in absence (via consulates). If you are going to marry or not. If the mother, when the day arrives, will sign. If her family agrees for her to sign.
Peter ***************
Peter ***************
What a mess
Wayne **********
Wayne **********
What is mess about it?

It’s not 1950 anymore. Lots of people have a child out of wedlock.
Neal *******
Neal *******
@Wayne *********
The poster says he “got a Thai girl pregnant.” He didn’t say “girlfriend.” I understand that couples in long term relationships having children despite not being married legally. But in this case, it seems to me that this gentleman is irresponsible and stupid. Border bouncing three times. Not protecting the woman and himself against pregnancy. You are correct that isn’t 1950. Let him try another border crossing and see what happens.
Wayne **********
Wayne **********
Didn’t say it wasn’t nor did he ask for a commentary.

Better to err on the side of not being a cvnt.
Neal *******
Neal *******
@Joe *******
Sorry for possibly offending you and for what seems like a lack of compassion. My response was mostly to the person that I replied to. Having a child outside of marriage in one’s own country is one situation; in another country thousands of miles from home where no concessions are made for English speaking foreigners is completely different. Other replies have offered suggestions and advice.

By the way, you are correct about me not having a girlfriend. My wife (Thai wife) and children and grandchildren will not let me have one. Thank you.

Chok Dee.

🙏
Joe ********
Joe ********
OP
@Neal ******
thanks for the kind words. Guessing you have neither a girlfriend or kids
Jordan ********
Jordan ********
@Wayne *********
yes, irresponsible selfish morons do.
Wayne **********
Wayne **********
Huh, I know lots of couples not married who have lived happily together with children for over a decade?

Can you explain how it is selfish, or irresponsible, or why it is moronic?
Paul ***************
Paul ***************
@Peter **************
helpful advice 🤪
Lynnette *******
Lynnette *******
Marry the mother of your child. Who then won't be born out of wedlock. The priority is the child. Not a visa.
Ernesto ********
Ernesto ********
@Lynnette ******
his priority is stay in Thailand easy and help populate
Lynnette *******
Lynnette *******
@Ernesto *******
no. The priority is the child.
Wayne **********
Wayne **********
He did.
Lynnette *******
Lynnette *******
TaupeShark6978 the paperwork for parental rights is onerous if not married. But of course, it can be done.
TaupeSh*******
TaupeSh*******
@Lynnette ******
as long as they both committed, I don’t see a reason to marry.
Ernesto ********
Ernesto ********
@Lynnette ******
yeah. Sure 👍🏿
Lynnette *******
Lynnette *******
@Ernesto *******
I'm sure he can read. Plus he's acknowledging his child and trying to stay in Thailand on that basis.
Ernesto ********
Ernesto ********
@Lynnette ******
tell him that
John ********
John ********
My advice is take a paternity test before anything else
Stanley *******
Stanley *******
👍😱
Adrian *****************
Adrian *****************
A good agent will help you sort it out I used key visa pattaya
Martin *********
Martin *********
Philip ********
Philip ********
@Martin ********
your a breath of fresh air i see
Martin *********
Martin *********
@Philip *******
not really. Just being realistic .
Joe ********
Joe ********
OP
@Martin ********
why don’t you two just kiss already
Martin *********
Martin *********
@Philip *******
no need to . I was being lazy with my comments in the first place and definitely not helping.
Philip ********
Philip ********
@Martin ********
I understand...sometimes I think we take some posts with a " pinch of salt".. apologies for my abrasive reply...
Eddie *********
Eddie *********
DTV is finish and is very good, dtv is so abusive so many bad people used that visa
Matthew *********
Matthew *********
Sign up for an mma gym can’t you get visa that way?
Brandon ************
Brandon ************
@Matthew ********
Muay Thai, not MMA. They are not the same thing.
Greg *********
Greg *********
@Brandon ***********
Hey Brandon, not Trolling here, I’m visiting Thailand in April. Not to open a can of worms but what does a Muay Thai membership have anything to do with the length of stay? Serious question. Thx
Brandon ************
Brandon ************
@Kamran ********
your Thai embassy website
Kamran *********
Kamran *********
@Brandon ***********
Where i can read more about education visa to learn if I qualify and how's that VS. DTV
Joe ********
Joe ********
OP
@Brandon ***********
can I message you privately please?
Brandon ************
Brandon ************
@Kamran ********
education visa is also available for Muay Thai
Kamran *********
Kamran *********
@Brandon ***********
two types? I thought DTV is 5 year visa, what are two types and which one is better option.
Joe ********
Joe ********
OP
@Donnie ***********************
I thought they had stopped the Muay Thai visas now? Google says it can be done on a dtv which isn’t helpful
Greg *********
Greg *********
@Lee *******
Did Not Know that. 👍🏼
Lee ********
Lee ********
@Greg ********
It qualifies as an educational visa
Donnie ************************
Donnie ************************
@Greg ********
they also do long visa if you come in to do an official Thai language course. This or the Muay Thai course would allow the author more time in Thailand.
Brandon ************
Brandon ************
@Greg ********
because there are 2 types of visas you can get based on training Muay Thai
Matthew *********
Matthew *********
And you’re able to get a lengthy visa with it if I’m not mistaken
Matthew *********
Matthew *********
@Greg ********
they have like schools you sign up for like 1 month and so on
Matthew *********
Matthew *********
@Brandon ***********
I was trying to be helpful the name Muay Thai slipped my mind
Gardar ***************************
Gardar ***************************
Can't open Thai bank without a 'o' visa, so if you get Ed visa will near impossible to open the bank. If you want the 'o' rights do right by the girl and marry her.
Kurt *************
Kurt *************
Get a dtv or ed visa.
Yves ********
Yves ********
@Kurt ************
DTV visa you cannot open bank account same for ed
Joe ********
Joe ********
OP
@Yves *******
ya can with an education visa
Yves ********
Yves ********
@Joe *******
no its finish same as for dtv
Yves ********
Yves ********
@Joe *******
that is finish same as for dtv visa. Thailand is now making a big cleaning
Brandon ************
Brandon ************
@Joe *******
Yeah, 2+ years ago they did. Things have changed a lot recently. You stand absolutely zero change of getting a bank account with Bangkok Bank with a tourist visa, and probably not much chance with an ED visa.
Joe ********
Joe ********
OP
@Brandon ***********
I heard Bangkok bank is the best option and have most chance with them they even give done to people on tourist visas apparently or they did
Brandon ************
Brandon ************
@Joe *******
people have struggled to open a bank account with an ED visa for over a year now. Banks don't like that one.
Kurt *************
Kurt *************
@Yves *******
why do you need a bank account for? You dont have one ?
Kurt *************
Kurt *************
@Benjamin ********
i am cheap charlie because i dont have thai account? I pay rent with my revolut or wise card
Benjamin *********
Benjamin *********
@Kurt ************
because you cheap charlie. When you have real rent, have to pay everyday, use thai service, its of course very useful
Yves ********
Yves ********
@Joe *******
visa first as you cannot open bank account without it
Joe ********
Joe ********
OP
@Kurt ************
for certain visas you need one. At the minute I’m trying to find a solution to my visa problem. I don’t have any bank account and I get by just fine
Kurt *************
Kurt *************
@Joe *******
i live in thailand and havent needed a thai account once this whole year.
Joe ********
Joe ********
OP
@Kurt ************
you need a Thai bank account for certain things…. This is why I’m struggling because what comes first the chicken or the egg? Visa or bank account? Who knows
Brandon ************
Brandon ************
You're not going to get annual extensions based on being the father of a half-Thai child. You're not married, which means you don't have parental rights when the child is born.

To have parental rights, you must be married when the child is born and your name must be on the birth certificate. If neither of those is accurate when the child is born, you have no parental rights. It requires a long time in the courts, and a fair bit of money to a Thai lawyer, in order to obtain those rights.

And even then, you must have custody and be a caretaker of the child in order to qualify for an extension based on a Thai child.
Incognia **********
Incognia **********
@Brandon ***********
no need to marry for Non O.(at least Pattaya) no need.If his name in birth certificate(for this mother must notify amphur after given birth)No need to marry.Only go amphur 3 person mum dad child and take paper go to immigration thats it
Phil ********
Phil ********
@Brandon ***********
Correct.

My mates been through this with his 2 daughters that were born out of wedlock.
Henrik ***********
Henrik ***********
@Brandon ***********
yep, if you are not married when the child is born, the child is a "bastard" (sorry for the GOT ref 🤣) and the mother have sole custody 100% how i know this, my wife have a son with a thai guy, before she met me. He had no say when she brought the son abroad even thou he sought legal advice to prevent it
Jacques ********
Jacques ********
@Brandon ***********
I am the father of a Thai child and I am not married to my child’s mother.

However, my name is on both of the child’s birth certificates (Thai and the translated to English copy)

Also, my Thai child has USA citizenship but has never been to America (yet).

As for parental rights, you are correct in that the Thai government doesn’t recognize me as the father even though I have supported the mother and child for nearly 11 years now.

When I visit Thailand, I always do a visa exemption, and occasionally do a 30 day extension.

So far I haven’t needed to do any other types of visas because I usually just make one trip here per year.

Yes, I’ve done at least a dozen border runs (to Malaysia) over the years as well.

Obviously this is the most convenient way for me because I am in the southern area of Thailand near Hatyai.

Happy New Year everyone.
Chris *********
Chris *********
@Brandon ***********
you forgot that even with all that you mentioned if the mother doesn't write a letter and accompany you to immigration you will not get a visa based on having a child.
Brandon ************
Brandon ************
@Chris ********
the child will need to be there too
Joe ********
Joe ********
OP
Incognia **********
Incognia **********
@Chris ********
Non O also can start process first 3 months in immigration
Chris *********
Chris *********
@Brandon ***********
the visa is irrelevant yet you can't live here without getting one how is that irrelevant? Dunno what ur arguing about. My point was if he goes that route everything depends on his partner. That's a shaky foundation.
Brandon ************
Brandon ************
@Chris ********
I'm not talking about the visa. The visa is irrelevant. He wants to live in Thailand. A 90 day visa doesn't matter. I'm referencing the future extensions. The visa is not the problem. The future extensions are.
Chris *********
Chris *********
@Brandon ***********
not exactly mate. If you apply overseas for the visa neither have to be there to get the visa but you will need that letter. Your talking about the visa extension which has different requirements. Either way if your relationship is not solid at any time and she refuses to help you will find yourself without a visa.
Jonny *********
Jonny *********
@Brandon ***********
Not everything you said is correct. If the mother is ok and agrees in court you can have parental rights, right away.

Other than that the rest is pretty bang on. Nice to see genuine comments for once.
Brandon ************
Brandon ************
@Jonny ********
I'm pretty sure everyone that wants to do this is mutually agreed. If the mother is against it, I doubt a foreigner will find success in trying to do it.
Jonny *********
Jonny *********
@Brandon ***********
my point was to the previous comment you made out its not doable unless you were married or other reasons. I was stating it can be done faster and less hassle.
Olivier ************
Olivier ************
@Jonny ********
we first had an appointment with social services ( separated interviews ) which issued their recommendation to the judge . Took about one month between social services interview and court date
Incognia **********
Incognia **********
@Jonny ********
yes very easy
Jonny *********
Jonny *********
@Olivier ***********
congratulations and happy birthday. Probably helped as my partner is working in the courts.
Olivier ************
Olivier ************
@Jonny ********
We mutually agreed too . I thought the same process we went throught would be applied all over Thailand

. We did it in hua hin .

After getting the court order we had to get it registered at our local amphur , which gave us another official paper which immigration wanted .

Start to finish it took us three months .

Our daughter was 1year old .
Jonny *********
Jonny *********
@Olivier ***********
I was fortunate we mutually agreed. I got it done in 2 weeks.
Graham ******
Graham ******
@Jonny ********
so you do have to go to court then
Sasi ************
Sasi ************
@Incognia *********
Wrong! My children have the father’s name on the birth certificates. He was the one registered the birth and both of them using his last name until this very moment; which is a big thing for Thais. He has no right whatsoever over them. Per Thai law , having the name on birth certificates almost means nothing if the mother against it.
Graham ******
Graham ******
@Incognia *********
if he was married at birth correct
Incognia **********
Incognia **********
@Graham *****
if has father name in birth certificate no need to go to court
Jonny *********
Jonny *********
@Graham *****
Its one way yes. I would get advice to be 100% if its only way
Oliver *******************
Oliver *******************
@Brandon ***********
not true been a father to a Thai child means he can get the Non-O visa. He doesn't need to be married
Graham ******
Graham ******
@Oliver ******************
outside the country at an Embassy or Consulate but not inside Thailand ;)
Brandon ************
Brandon ************
@Oliver ******************
He cannot get an EXTENSION without parental rights.
Richard ******
Richard ******
@Brandon ***********
fortunately in 1969 my Thai wife of 56 years we married just before my son was born and my name is on his Thai birth certificate otherwise I was told I would have to adopt him if we did not and it would not be easy.
Chizel *******
Chizel *******
@Brandon ***********
no need to be married. Just need the Khor.Ror.11 form from the Amphur. Some may provide it without the court documents. My Amphur required the court documents which doesn't take long to obtain.
Brandon ************
Brandon ************
@Chizel ******
I never said there was a need to be married. Just that the child had to be legitimized with parental rights granted to the father in order to use that for an extension.
Incognia **********
Incognia **********
@Marc ******
you are right.He said must marry.
Chizel *******
Chizel *******
@Marc ******
yes definitely don't need to be married etc.

In my case I paid for a lawyer to prepare everything for us but after going through the process I could say we could've done it ourselves.
Marc *******
Marc *******
@Chizel ******
No, he said you must be married AND your name must be on birth certificate.

You understood right but he has no clue what he is talking about.

Same with you need a lawyer and spend money. As you see, many ppl doesn't need a lawyer for that.
Chizel *******
Chizel *******
@Brandon ***********
I must have misinterpreted your comment sorry.
Cris ******
Cris ******
@Brandon ***********
Just want to say thank you and Merry Christmas for all the help you bring people in this group. I hope you have a good New Years and 2026
Greg *********
Greg *********
@Brandon ***********
The only reason I ask this as I've had a child out of wedlock and when I went to see see a Lawyer about going through the courts to legitimize my child, it was was stated that I would gain full paternal rights if I get married which would be the easier option
Sasi ************
Sasi ************
@Greg ********
NO, you will not gained FULL parental rights even you are officially married to the mother. Thai law gives mothers benefits when it comes to parental rights. Even if you married but if a mother said you’re not thd father, to contest you must go through the court that’s required DNA testing.
Brandon ************
Brandon ************
@Greg ********
It might be possible. But I've never heard of anyone doing it.
Greg *********
Greg *********
@Brandon ***********
Do you automatically gain parental rights if you marry the child's mother after the child is born?
Charlimo *********
Charlimo *********
Greg *********
Greg *********
@Charlimo ********
I think you need to go read the Thai law regarding this.
Tylah ****************
Tylah ****************
@Greg ********
BEFORE not after the child is born.
Incognia **********
Incognia **********
@Greg ********
if woman accepts baby is his baby then go check dna and everything is fine. Can make visa based child.
Greg *********
Greg *********
@Tylah ***************
That's not true, if you get married after the child is born, the father is required to inform the registrar of a legitimate child along with the marriage registration application. The registrar at the district office will issue a marriage certificate stating that a child is legitimised by the father through the marriage between the parents. This is certainly the case in Chiang Mai
Brandon ************
Brandon ************
@Greg ********
No. As I said. You must be married, and your name must be on the birth certificate. Both of those must be that way when the child is born. If either is not that way, then you do not get parental rights and must obtain them through the court.
Per-Arne ***********
Per-Arne ***********
Yes and we both went to the embassy together and you need to sign both of you at renewal as well
Tylah ****************
Tylah ****************
@Per-Arne **********
did you require your gf signature to get a passport for your child?
Per-Arne ***********
Per-Arne ***********
My gf and I wasn’t married, I had my name on the birth certificate ( BDMS ) and went through the juvenile court to obtain parental rights and apply for passport in my country of citizenship for my child as well. Straightforward and easy process with the court. Yes it took some time but no cost and no lawyer required
Adrian *****************
Adrian *****************
I have my non o visa based on my daughter and I'm not married to her mum but I am on the birth certificate,had to prove relationship with photos at home etc and have the 400k in the bank.
Brandon ************
Brandon ************
@Adrian ****************
Also, your post isn't really relevant because you used an agent. They skip requirements through "extra" payments to the officers.
Brandon ************
Brandon ************
@Adrian ****************
And how old was the child? The information I outlined is for infants. Once the child is older you can just do it at an amphur office. But based on the post, the op cannot wait ~8 years for that
Daniel **********
Daniel **********
My kid was legitimized at age 5.
Adrian *****************
Adrian *****************
My daughter was 6,yes after the child is 7 I can go to the amphur and get the paperwork needed but as long as I could prove my relationship with mum and we lived together,provide photos and a birth certificate with my name on we were good.

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