Can I convert a tourist visa to a retirement visa based on marriage without a bank deposit in Thailand?

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You don't have to be married for a retirement Visa, you can get a marriage which you need less income but it's a lot of paper work involved

What is PEA insurance and how is she able to add you??

Ya mate, just come to Thailand on tourist visa and as soon as you get to Thailand go see a agent and get a mon 0 visa they do everything for you.

Just give them your passport and they take you to immigration and take photo take you to a bank and take photo and open a bank account, they put the 800k in your account for immigration and then take out again and leave about $500b in your account that you can spend .

In about two to three weeks you go back and get your passport and visa stapled inside.

I am so glad I used a agent no stress and super easy

Listen to what John Stannners wrote.

This is a simple process in your home country.2 Visa application forms + 2 fotos.Investment info or bank statements showing you are not destitute.A letter from Thai wife inviting you to visit or accompany her to Thailand Copy of her passport and Thai ID card .If u own property in Thailand appropriate paperwork .1 year multple entry O visa fee + your passport sent to Thai embassy and either copy or original marriage cert which is returned with passort when visa is issued.

You can apply for 1 year non OA and show you have proof of 65k income each month. You do not need to have 800k deposit.

im in a similar situation, can you explain more about being added to your wife's insurance I'm interested if I have that option rather than taking out insurance alone

Thanx

I am going through the marriage visa process currently. It's a freaking nightmare. I would only recommend a marriage visa if you will not be traveling for 4-6 months. However, if you have time patience and no plans of going anywhere, it maybe an option for you.

Retirement visa is not based on marriage, you'd be getting a visa as being married to a Thai (although you can get a retirement visa if you wish, it's less onerous documentation wise but more onerous financially).

You could look at getting a Non-O 90 day visa for being married to a Thai in your home country, when you arrive in Thailand extend that for 12 months by putting 400k baht into a bank account in your name. Once you've obtained the extension you can do what you like with the 400k. Or you could just come in on a tourist visa and obtain the 90 day Non-O inside Thailand

What kind of age are you Bill? If early 50s you can get one years health insurance for the o-a visa for about $500 (with quite a hefty excess if you actually want to use it) but the older your are the heftier the premium is

No, what you stated is incorrect.

You have a few options.

If you absolutely do not want to deposit money in Thailand, you can see if your consulate in the US issues the OA visa.

This visa is a 1 year multi-entry visa that generally only requires proof of the required funds in an account in your home country, and not in Thailand. This visa has a high insurance requirement and also requires things like medical clearance and possibly criminal records check, etc. But once you have this visa, each time you enter Thailand until the expiration date of the visa (1 year from when it is issued), you will be stamped into Thailand for 1 year, or as long as your insurance is valid. So if you leave Thailand right before the expiration date and re-enter with another year of insurance, you'll basically get 2 years out of it. But it's not always possible to get this visa in some countries or through some consulates.

You could also see if you can apply for a 1 year, multiple entry Non-O visa from either your home country, or from a country neighboring Thailand. I believe at least one neighboring country issues these. You would apply on the basis of marriage, and what this does is give you 90 days inside Thailand each time you enter. Then after 90 days you would need to leave and re-enter the country. You could get about 15 months out of this visa but you'd have to leave and re-enter Thailand every 90 days.

If you use the traditional Non-O visa, the simplest method without any insurance requirements has you travel to Thailand either visa exempt or on a tourist visa. While there you would open up a bank account and transfer the required money, either 400,000b for marriage or 800,000b for retirement, and then once you have the money in your account you would apply to convert to 90 day Non-O (marriage or retirement). Once you have had this for 2 months you could then apply for the 1 year extension based on either marriage or retirement with the required money in your account.

There is no free 1 year no strings attached conversion inside Thailand like you stated.