What are the consequences of not completing the 90-day report in Thailand?

Oct 8, 2024
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Pintsev *****
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What happens if you don't do the 90 days reports ?

What is the consequences ?

Will be fined at the airport ?

Because seems it's complicated in some provinces- need TM30, etc etc etc and some hotel don't register properly.
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Failing to complete the 90-day reporting in Thailand can lead to various fines and complications. If you miss the deadline, you may be fined 2,000 THB at the immigration office or 5,000 THB if caught by the police. It's important to report within the 90-day period, which can be done online within 15 days before or 7 days after the due date; otherwise, you must report in person. Frequent travelers may reset their 90-day count each time they leave and re-enter Thailand. The process is generally straightforward, but some expats find the rules, especially regarding TM30 forms, confusing.
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David ****************
So if u dont do 90d report and flying home at day 91 .. no worries when fly out etc.
Angelo ***********
You get fined 2000THB. At immigration. You get fined 5000THB if the police picks you up.
Tamir *****
I left thai without 90 days nothing happened
Steve *******
On what day can you do it 89 days or it just resets the clock another 90 days max?
Greg ********
@Steve ******
I think it is 2 weeks before the 90 days and a week after without penalty. If you do after the date cannot do online and must go in person. I had to do that earlier this year when I miscalculated dates.
Mathew **********
What if your moving around Thailand regularly, how would you report
Greg ********
@Mathew *********
You report to the local immigration office where you are registered with your TM30.
Paul *******
@Mathew *********
Basically to the nearest immigration office.
Henrik *****
Make it easy for your self and the hotel / landlord, everytime you check-in, ask them for a copy of the TM30 report.

Then you have it, if you need it, and no extra work for the hotel / landlord.
Lyle *********
@Paul ******
I will be staying at a hotel in Phuket for like 7 days when my 90 day report comes up. How can I get a TM 30?
Lee ***********
@Lyle ********
from that hotel
Lyle *********
@Lee **********
really? I read online that I can use a TM30 from the condo I’ll be staying at earlier in my trip - as no one cares where it’s from as long as you’re in the system within the last 90 days (might consult a travel agent to check)
Lee ***********
@Lyle ********
I believe its at the time of your extension it needs to be live, not from an earlier point in time
Paul *******
@Lyle ********
From the hotel.
Cissi *********
@Lyle ********
you can ask the hotel for a print-out of their report.
Mathew **********
@Lyle ********
I've emailed my nearest Consulate and asked for clarification
Wannikea *********
@Mathew *********
consulates will know nothing about immigration matters. Two different government ministries.
Tsai *****
Do I need to do TM30 around the 90th day? Or TM47? What is the difference?can do online ?👀
Ibrahim ******
@Tsai ****
Tm30 is done by the hotel/landlord. TM47 you have to do it, I believe it's the 90 day report. 1st one has to be done in person at an immigration office, the following can be done online.
Tsai *****
@Ibrahim *****
I thought no need to do anything once got dtv
Tsai *****
@Ibrahim *****
what 🤯I’ve never heard of is so tm30 I have to do it when the 90th day is close ?
Wannikea *********
@Tsai ****
TM30 is to be done by the place you stay with 24 hrs of you staying at the accomodation
Ibrahim ******
@Tsai ****
Tm30 is done by the hotel/landlord, not us.

We have to do the 90 day report which is the TM47.

I didn't know this aswell, it wasn't clear with the DTV application process, there was no advice about other things. It's not until folks here in the group said it's normal to report, SO I checked with immigration and it's correct.

With DTV we must do TM47 if we stay 90 days or more, and our landlord or the hotel folks submit and create the TM30 for us (no always but ask them and they should be able to, it's their responsibility).

I got my TM30 from my landlord (I arranged a 1 year rent contract) once I got here with my DTV last month.
Greg ********
@Ibrahim *****
The information you are posting is correct. Landlord must do the TM30 for you ASAP you arrive in theor property. However, some will not so you may have to find a way to do it yourself. You need the TM30 to do 90 day, get and extension, get a Residence Certificate. First time 90 Day in person then online.
Lee ***********
@Greg *******
tm30 within 24 hrs cannot back date
Greg ********
@Lee **********
It is meant to be but in practice it is not strictly applied. I helped people who could not do the 90 day reports as no TM30 (Thus it was obvious it was not done in 24 hours). They had the TM30 completed and then did the 90 Day without penalty. With certain Immigration Offices ie BOI One-Stop-Shop the TM30 was never required.
Lee ***********
@Greg *******
agreed, so long as you have one at the point of the check, but they are the rules.
Theint ********
DTV visa holder needs to do the 90 days report?
Paul *******
@Jim **********
yeah but with an annual visa, no need to leave the country every 6 months.
Jim ***********
@Paul ******
I visit family 2 times per year. Thais want us transfer 65k month for year visa. But 5 year visa 500k sufficient... offer us on O visa 3 or 5 years extension I would take tomorrow
Jim ***********
Everyone here longer than 90 days needs do report. DTV also included.
Stephan ***********
@Jim **********
Not really everyone... LTR is different... it's one time per year.
Jim ***********
@Stephan **********
that's the big money visa ? Not many normal people have that.
Stephan ***********
@Jim **********
Yep... the big, big, very big money thing... and I wouldn't call these people "normal" anymore... that's a different league... 😁
Jim ***********
@Stephan **********
new DTV pissed loads them off. Paid large amounts now DTV is 10k. Any luck O visa we can extend more than 1 year in future. 5 years on a hospital appointment is a crazy visa
Stephan ***********
@Jim **********
Yep... and if they don't give us somethin I also think about changing... to get my money out of the bank. But there are some things still unclear... how does it work with extension (how much, any paperwork needed to prove the class), what about renew drivers license (2y or 5y), can open a bank account or not... in about three month we will know more.

Yeah... DTV is really not bad... I saw one guy in the early days who got it based on one (1) appointment with his dentist.
Jim ***********
@Stephan **********
I moved 800k out last year doing 66k month now. Expires April on multi or would left and applied DTV already. Don't use DeeMoney if decide take money out they have major issues now. I nearly got burnt
Paul *******
@Jim **********
I don't think the LTR folks are jealous. They have a much better visa. While still not a pathway to permanent residency or anything, they can spend 5 years in country before they have to prove their qualifications again. They only do a once yearly check-in.
Jim ***********
@Paul ******
but what cost for them originally? Million baht or something?
Paul *******
@Jim **********
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is what they pay, but they need to prove an income of 80K USD or above or assets of I think it's
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0 USD or something like that (there are 3 distinct categories).
Gerry ********
@Paul ******
LTR is pretty weird in my opinion.

For the remote worker category, you need a pretty decent income, but it's not that high.

The issue is that you need to be employed by a publicly listed company, or a company that has at least USD50 million revenue per year. That shuts out pretty much all small-medium business owners, or employees thereof.
Paul *******
@Gerry *******
Totally agree. The LTR category is absolutely ridiculous in that sense.
Jim ***********
@Paul ******
this DTV is 500k in a bank for 5 year visa. We gotta have 800k for year visa. Something needs change
Theint ********
Jim ***********
Christopher *************
You can do it online. You only have to do the first one after entering the country (i.e. 90 days after entering the country) in person at the immigration office in the province you live. The online registration is easy.

Online link:

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David *****
@Christopher ************
what if you have a one year leased condo in thailand that you use for a home base and travel to other ASEAN countries before the 90 days are up? each time you come back to thailand, you need to do a TM47?
Henrik *****
Much easier to do the 90 day report, than going abroard, and cheaper.
Christopher *************
@David ****
it's simply the length of time you spend in Thailand without leaving the country. If you stay here for 90 days, you have to report. It doesn't matter whether you have an apartment or not. If you leave and come back, the 90 day limit starts from 0 again. Example: you arrive on 1 January. You leave again on 25 January and return on 1 February. You stay 90 days: report on 1 May (90 days from 1 February, i.e from you most recent passport arrival stamp). Always 90 days after your last arrival. You can report up to 15 days before and 7 days after the end of the 90-day period - in the example I gave above: 16 April to 8 May). Is that clear?
Ibrahim ******
@David ****
I have a 1 year rental, like you, it's my base. If we don't stay 90 days in one go then we don't have to, but if we do then we must. But it's easy, I already registered online, and set a reminder on my diary to go to the immigration office. Then after, if I stay 90 days or more I can just complete it online
Christopher *************
@Tsai ****
always if you stay 90 days in one go without leaving the country. If you always stay less than that you don't need to report.
Christopher *************
Tsai *****
@Christopher ************
ok so either report or go abroad
Tsai *****
@Christopher ************
what if someone go abroad a lot , do they also need that ?
Stephan ***********
If you miss the due date you'll be fined 2,000 Baht. If you get arrested and your 90 day report is overdue it's 5,000 Baht. At the airport they don't care about that, they care about overstay... different story...
Siggi *******
@Stephan **********
why you should be arrested?
Stephan ***********
@Siggi ******
Why not? Drunk driving, drugs, street fighting, shoplifting, theft, domestic violance, and, and, and... pick one... many foreigners do many crazy things here... 😁
Paul *******
@Stephan **********
I wouldn't recommend doing any of those in Thailand but drink driving is something you can generally pay your way out of.
Siggi *******
@Stephan **********
I thing then a 90 days report not play any role
Stephan ***********
@Siggi ******
It does... if you get arrested (whatever the reason may be) and your 90 day report is overdue, your fine for that goes up from 2k to 5k. Okay... that's the official version...
Nga **************
@Stephan **********
so just theoretically, if someone doesn't do any 90d reporting and also doesn't get into any legal trouble or get arrested, what happens to that person? When and where do they get charged the 2000baht fine?
Stephan ***********
@Nga *************
At the Immigration office, the next time when you try to get something from them... extension, residency certificate, transfer visa to a new passport, and, and, and.
Žan *********
@Stephan **********
in that case would you get fined for previous missing 90 day reports even if your current entry stamp is less than 90 days old?
Siggi *******
@Žan ********
no you don't get any problems, when you renter Thailand and you have a new entrystamp then there is no problem
Stephan ***********
@Žan ********
It might depend a bit on the mood of your Officer, but yes, that would be the normal way. An open bill is an open bill... ;-)
Paul *******
@Stephan **********
As long as you don't use an immigration office for anything, then there's no reason to worry (in practice anyway). No one is "arrested" for not doing a 90 day report and no one is prevented from entering or leaving the country for not doing one.
Greg ********
It is not complicated at all. It takes minutes even if you go in person. Fill in one form TM47 and hand it in with your passport. As for TM30 you are going to need that for more than just 90 Day Reporting.
Christopher *************
@Greg *******
agreed, it's quite a straightforward process.
Robert ****
Christopher John Hanna From personal experience at the BKK CW Immigration office, I can say that it is not a straightforward process.
Greg ********
@Christopher ************
I really do not understand the panic and reticence over it.