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What are the fines and requirements for not notifying residence in Thailand?
Hi, anyone knows about some people fined at immigration in Suvarnabhumi airport about lacking notification of residence?
Answer summary
The discussion centers on fines imposed on foreigners in Thailand for failing to file the TM30 form, which is a requirement for notifying authorities of one’s residence. Posts reveal varying fine amounts, often noted as around 1600 to 4000 baht, with enforcement seemingly stricter in certain regions like Chonburi. Expat comments indicate that both landlords and tenants have responsibilities regarding the TM30, and many users question the necessity and implications of the form when entering or changing residence in Thailand. The conversation also clarifies the distinction between the TM30 and TM6 forms, with TM6 being filled upon entry and TM30 for residence notification within 24 hours.
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Tod *********
They put these signs up out at Chaengwattana a good while back as you walk into the 90 day reporting room (Section A).
Even though it's the property owner that is responsible for filing the TM.30's, I dunno why they wrote 'em in thai.
Even though it's the property owner that is responsible for filing the TM.30's, I dunno why they wrote 'em in thai.
Ron *******
Immigration at the airport never ask. Not yet anyway.
Davide ***********
OP@Tod ********
thanks, good to know. I just worry immigration at airport.Tod *********
@Dav***
, at this time the immigration office in bangkok doesn't care in the least if you or your landlord has filed a TM.30. It's not needed for us to do anything at Chaengwattana.
Davide ***********
OPimmigration Bangkok did not fine anyone about it?
Tod *********
@Dav***
, it's just some signage that the owner of where you stay must file a Tm.30 report within 24 hours of you moving in or they can be fined. In bangkok they don't care about it, but other immigration offices DO care about it a LOT and do fine people who haven't filed a TM.30 form
Davide ***********
OPwhat means this advice?
Terry **********
its just to add to the confusion,,,ahaaaaaaa
Jefferson *********
Never even knew about this so potentially everybody who enters Thailand has to fill out I wonder how many people do it I've been here 28 days and haven't done a single one and never had any problems before
Ron *******
@Jakko **************
the info on how and if you need to do it is all in the thread!
Jakko ***************
yes thanks for sharing. can you explain what you have to do exactly? It's not quite clear to me. How/ where/ when do you notify them of your residence?
Jefferson *********
@Ron ******
ok thanks mate it's good to know for the futureRon *******
Nothing is done about it for not reporting until you need to deal with an immigration office that requires it for example, an extension of stay or a residents permit. These offices that do require it will pull it out of the bag, that your in the country illegally (According to the law) if you fail to report, which technicality according to the law, you are. There's no arguing with them.
Ian **********
I've asked my missus to get the Form for me.
Ron *******
Trust me chon-buri immigration apply it. There's is normally 2000bht a time. I got fined 4000bht in one hit for 2 previous entries. It could of been much more but we had a deal 😉
Ron *******
Chonburi love it! 😂
Terry **********
yep Ron i know plenty of people had same
Aaron **************
Please excuse the ignorance.
But does this only apply to temporary permit (30 days. MEV etc).
Or do I ... being on an ED Visa need to do this as well as my stay is not "temporary" as such. It's more long term.
You thanks for the help.
But does this only apply to temporary permit (30 days. MEV etc).
Or do I ... being on an ED Visa need to do this as well as my stay is not "temporary" as such. It's more long term.
You thanks for the help.
Dee *******
@Ian *********
No, this is something totally different. Usually, your hotel will fill this out and pay the cost. However, if they don't, it's on you if you are asked about it.Ian **********
Damn it.
Ian **********
@Ron ******
excellent.Ron *******
Ian Clements unless I am misunderstanding your post, you cannot lodge a TM30 in Bangkok for an address in Prachunburi
Ian **********
copy that
Ron *******
As has been said, it all depends if the immigration office you deal with requires you to do it. Although it's the law, not all immigration offices are enforcing it.
Ian **********
Ron Angel I've actually not been asked for it at BKK before. I'll just jump through the Immigration hoops and keep everyone happy.
Ian **********
Oh ok well that makes it easy for us then. I can just take a pic on board the aircraft with my phone or just fill in 2 of the bloody things and then do the rest from there. She is in Prachinburi but I have to go straight into Sukomvit first when I get there so it should be easy.
Aaron **************
@Ron ******
and @Tod ********
please could eitherclear this up for me please. So i do my 90 day extension next week. I leave the country (attending a marriage) for two weeks . Ill be back in Thailand first week in November. I fill out a reentry permit for when i come back do i still need to complete the TM30 form upon arrival. Or would my notice of stay i do next week cover that. All this on a ED Visa. Thanks in advance.Ron *******
You fill in the form. You'll need your passport and copy. Your TM6 form and copy. She will need a copy of her ID and her housebook. You take the whole lot to immigration if you are in a province that requires you to lodge it. Chon-buri and some others 100% require it. Some people say Bangkok don't but there are some reports that say they have asked for it. I cannot say if they do or don't as I haven't dealt with them.
If your going to do it, you need to do it within 24hrs of arriving at her house.
If you can't do it within 24hrs, you need to get your story straight as to why not because they will see exactly when you entered Thailand from your TM6 and passport stamp.
If your going to do it, you need to do it within 24hrs of arriving at her house.
If you can't do it within 24hrs, you need to get your story straight as to why not because they will see exactly when you entered Thailand from your TM6 and passport stamp.
Ian **********
@Ron ******
Is it only a matter of her filling in this form with the details I give her?Ron *******
Your welcome mate.
Ian **********
@Ron ******
Cheers mate.Ron *******
@Ian *********
just in case you missed it in the first picture, this is regarding the TM30. Hope it helps.Ian **********
@Ron ******
oh ok. Cheers.Ron *******
No. That's a TM6. The TM30 is totally different and a separate notification of where your staying.
Ian **********
Is this the same as the one you do onboard the aircraft before disembarking?
Tod *********
In theory it's for EVERY foreigner that enters thailand.
Ian **********
So if I can get over there next week for a week or so and stay at my missus place, do I have to do one of these forms?
Cookie ********
Technically, you can also do it at the local police station if there is no immigration office close by. I have done it there, but they have no clue what it is, and you can guarantee the form never goes to any immigration office to notify them of your whereabouts...
Ian **********
Ok and cheers.
Robert *******
No. at the Immigration Office of the district where your missus house is.
Ian **********
Can I do this at the airport? Please excuse my ignorance on this topic.
Ian **********
Ok.
Robert *******
Officially the house owner, as I understand your missus needs to register you using the TM30 form at the local immigration office within 24 hours.
Davide ***********
OPI just know someone in Pattaya immigration fined 1.600 about lacking of registration, normally should be owner house to pay fine, anyway if owner don't pay immigration refuse every service to foregneir. so he forced to pay in advance and ask money back owner house. Staff immigration also say if you leave country and you did not have this form you can be asked to pay 5.000 baht in airport, but I really don't know anyone had this kind of problem.
Glen *********
Robert Lagas yes this notice is about changing your residence and its TM28 the foreigner must complete to do so
Glen *********
@Robert ******
I never said it was TM30, I said 2 different forms...the owner completes TM30 and the foreigner completes TM28, and you may be fined if you don't complete TM28Robert *******
@狭*
There is only 1 form called TM30Glen *********
@Robert ******
actually there is a different form for the owner to complete too...don't confuse this with the form the visitor must complete...2 different formsDee *******
@Ron ******
That's correct. Online won't guarantee they received it. That's Thailand 4.0 for you.Ron *******
And here, just in case there are any doubters, is a fine receipt from Jomtien immigration for 4000bht for failing to report or be reported within the 24hr period.
Bare in mind, lots of hotels fail to report you but YOU are fined for it.
Again I've removed some personal details
Bare in mind, lots of hotels fail to report you but YOU are fined for it.
Again I've removed some personal details
Ron *******
Here is a copy of a receipt that any hotel, condo management or any other business that has applied for access to report you looks like. Obviously I've blanked my personal details out. When they say they have reported you, they can then print this receipt. You won't get one back from immigration unless you go and ask for one. This is why it's not guaranteed they have received your report.
Ron *******
It's not possible for private individuals to do it online. You need to be a registered business and get a password.
Davide ***********
OPdo you have link for registration on line?
Ron *******
I can print off the receipt after my condo submit it for me but immigration say it isn't a guarantee that it will be received! After they told me that I just now go and do it myself because they don't issue a receipt if and when they receive it.
There is a print button once the report is sent.
There is a print button once the report is sent.
Tod *********
@R**
, Oh I didn't know that. :/ I never saw the receipt from the online program, and a person who lives next door in an apartment complex that uses it told me they couldn't print a receipt for him :/
Ron *******
Actually Tod the online registration does give a receipt. Only that you filed it though. It doesn't issue a receipt it was actually received 😊
Danny *********
But can I, as a rentor, just ask immigration to do it by myself instead if my landlord isn't willing to do it?
Robert *******
registration should be made by: House owner, landlord, heads of house hold or manager of hotel. If the owner does not want to pay the fine, you as rentor is seen as heads of household.
Tod *********
That 1600baht is standard, BUT I've never ever heard of someone being stopped when flyin' out and fined for not having the TM.30 receipt in their passport.
In fact many places do it online for people who stay at guest houses, hotels, even private residences can register to use it, and that program doesn't give a receipt.
In fact many places do it online for people who stay at guest houses, hotels, even private residences can register to use it, and that program doesn't give a receipt.
Tod *********
It's the TM.30 form they're talking about..
Jeff *****
helpful photo of what form
Tod *********
When you file a TM.30 they tear off the bottom of the form and give it back to you.
Tod *********
what's the story on the receipt you posted?
Tod *********
never heard of it.
Cookie ********
Doesn't the TM6 slip that you fill in when entering the country cover the first location you stay at? And if that is your residence and you never leave it for 24 hours, you shouldn't actually need the TM30 or TM28 at all, as you have notified them already on the slip...
Ivan ************
Dee Adams my understanding is that strictly legally the obligation is on the landlord, not the tenant. But they can stick you with it if you need something from immigration (like an extension).
Dee *******
Jason Newey Not only where you live, but every city you go to if you're a tourist or simply living here on whatever visa. So if a tourist visits 5 cities, or changes hotels 8 times, they need to fill out 8 of them!!!!! Each submission costs money btw. It's a nice racket they have going on. Some hotels fill them out, some don't. But the burden is on the foreigner at the end of the day.
Terry **********
@Tod ********
correct Tod
Michael ***********
ah ok, sorry for the misunderstanding :)
Tod *********
Michael ***********
this is not related to the 90 day report, it is something different.
Terry **********
@Jason ******
correct report every 90 days after in/out, at Mae Sai, local immo here in Phayao pretty OK, been late a couple of times, and they not charged my wife
Nèwēy *******
I think it basically means you have to register where you live within 24hrs. If you move you will have to do it again.
Nèwēy *******
That's gone up! I paid about 1k i think. It certainly wasn't 5k.
Tod *********
It can be up to 5K, and normally for failure to file a TM.30 they were charging people 1600baht.
I have no idea where they got that figure but a LOT of people all over thailand were charged that fine by the immigration offices that are hard core about it.
I have no idea where they got that figure but a LOT of people all over thailand were charged that fine by the immigration offices that are hard core about it.
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