I got pulled up at immigration and was told I need a visa after coming here for 13 years staying for visa entry
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An expat with 13 years of stays in Thailand on visa exemption was unexpectedly confronted by immigration officers, leading to questions about the frequency of exempt entries and the need for a proper visa. The conversation highlights concerns about recent changes in immigration enforcement, scrutiny of frequent travelers, and the potential consequences of overstaying visa exemptions. Suggestions for applicable visas include obtaining a Non-O visa or exploring long-term visa options.
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Not not grumpy just fed the fuck up with this system 😒
Alf **
Really people the rules change daily. No one thai immigration officer will even give you the same information as another. No revenue department. No license people. How are foreigners supposed to keep up. The entire system is a total fucking shit show. Put up or shut the r*ck up
yes that airport has been giving foreigners problems. they hassled me after a visa run to cambodia but let me through. then after my lasik surgery tried to tell me i wasnt the person on my passport and was trying to seperate the pages of my passport..
and easily confused with words like "arrival" in Thailand and "within 3 days" of arriving. Or "exempt of visa". As if the word exempt means something bizarre and new.
I’m from Australia and I have heard and read that from the 01st of May there going back to 30 day holiday visas from 60 . I guess I will find out as I’m flying in today .
visa from embassy? Or entered with no visa: exempt.
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James ******
Didn't I see something about you do it online now before you go. It's still free 60 days I just think they are enforcing it.
Dimitri *****************
I always get the 60 days, but apply for the visa anyway. It's not too expensive, and it increases my chances of getting 30 days extra. I love the culture and people.(I suffered the abuse of the people of my own country). I guess it makes it that much easier.
Adrian ***************
I think you can't stay more than 6 months in total on arrival so no more than 3 60 day samps in a year. But I could be wrong
Jimmy ****
How did you pull it off 😂
Betty *********
That's no explanation. You came in visa exempt 60 days, and then what ??
Dennis *********
13 years and complaining... get a proper visa
Walt ********
Me too. I come 2x a year for 60 days at a time and was told to get a long term visa
Edgar ************
When will you idiots learn, fly into SUVARNABHUMI airport - it's so simple. A billionaire diplomat from Singapore (highest passport rank globally) would get questioned at Don Muang, where as a terrorist from Afghanistan (worst passport ranking globally) can waltz through Suvarnabhumi with not a care in the world as the immigration swiftly stamps his passport and waves him through.
Andy ***********
It is down to immigration officer I believe .. I did that for 20 years with no visa . And they black marked me - next time u need visa … I complied
Jimmy - I been here. 33 years and no visa for much of that time … I have Visa now… it is significantly more controlled now… I had mates doing same and one by one we were told to get visa or no entry
- working in KL and back and forth …I have 3 passports and rotated them .. but immigration spotted it and made me get a visa
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Viola ********
Just never go to Poipet border 🛂
Che ********
I've been coming 10 to 12 times a year for the past 15 years, mostly less than a week, usually a couple of times a year 2 or 3 weeks. I bought a condo here as a holiday home, I live in a nearby country so this is my monthly break. Till last year I have never had an issue but now 3 times in the past 12 months they questioned me, usually asking if I'm living here, if I'm working here or if I rent my Condo. Often pull over a senior officer but once I explain why I'm here they let me go. Still it's unsettling and as many have said it's up to the officer when you arrive.
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John ********
I’ve been in and back at least 60 times since 2011 and you gotta take out the 2 covid years. I’ve never had and issue but I only come for a holiday and I’m not doing border runs
Mark *******
Very unfortunate Tony! What reasons were given?
Ron *********
I don't understand why Thailand doesn't just put it in writing, 2 exemptions per year and whatever lifetime.
David ***********
You are not a tourist so you need a visa
Fred *********
Does it take long to apply for the online visa. Not sure I'm doing the right one or not.
Seems to be a shit load of questions and stuff to upload.
Only going on holiday for 3 weeks
Gary ********
No sympathy get a visa
Daniel ******
I got LTR visa for 10 years! Why to confront hassle if you can have it the easy way! Use your brin!
Will ********
Daniel Burn
They are too pricey though innit.
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Peter ******
There's, as usual, too little pertinent information in the post to determine anything at all, please stop assuming we all know where you are from, how long each year you've stayed, how many times you've done border runs etc instead of applying for a visa etc. we are not mind readers, all it does is create a load of time wasting nonsense on here.
never said he didn't, what I clearly said was the OP was wasting everyone's time by failing to give even a basic set of information to work from, which is typical of all forums it seems !
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Glenn *****
Do multiple visa exempt entries if they are short time like no more than 10 days at a time cause any issues?
no one can give you a definitive answer on that. Each time you enter will be different & each IO will be different too. It's unlikely but there is still a possibility of an IO taking issue with it.
we are not all alike. I'm from Belgium and have the utmost respect for Thaï people. Moreover they are buddhist, and I consider them to belong to the same "global Sanga" as me. I am not rich, but nevertheless spend 95 % of my yearly leisure savings on the Thaï economy. There is a lot of difference amongst age-groups and nationality e.g. Please take that (and other nuances) in consideration and refrain from popular stereotyping, wich makes matters always that much worse. Division wont bring us closer together, as per definition.
Why Not Show Up Wearing Nice Slacks And A Sports Shirt ? You'll Be "Presenting" Better Than 90+% Of People In Immigration...Why Should Immigration Officials Want To See "Ragbags ?!" But Then Asia Has Always Been A "Dumping Ground" For Dead-Beats !!!!!"
I got told by the immigration officer 3 days ago when I did my 30 days extension for the 4th time (also got 60 days visa exempt 4times now) that she will give me another 60 days without having to leave the country next time. Really shows that it’s up to the officer to do little bit as they feel like 🥳
I normally use Friendly Thai Visa Service in Bangkok, they have a deal with immigration and guarantees your 60 day stamp. 4k all inclusive (even free meal at the border restaurant). They check your passport before you enter the minivan, if they cannot guarantee your stamp they not let you go
Nope , you’re presumably referring to the DTAC very different….ETA will work same way as Singapore and Malaysia , it will be an authority to travel…and denial will be on line. Along with Egates which are being installed immig arrivals will be painless……and folks will now before they fly if they will be allowed entry……
would be great, as of now, the stress is killing me (I am cPTSD-sufferer). They oblige me to have a return-ticket when I enter, but it's always a gamble as to whether I'll make it or not. Distressing, to say the least. I would stay at home, but I live in Belgium and being the country where I got traumatised in the first place, exclusion of disabled persons is socio-politically on the rise and therapy only seems to be given to the rich, powerfull and slightly neurotic; that has not been (and is) much of a viable option. The Thaï culture seems to be so much more spiritually sound.
no, no Singapore has a digital arrival card and that’s all it is I travel there every month for the last 4 years. Malaysia has the same. Thailand has the same.
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David *******
They need tourists more now than ever. Lost tourists after earthquake and now POTUS Trump has done tourists a favor by massive economic trade pressure on Thailand. In March Thai elites (greedy hotel owners) pushed to reduce visa exemption to 30 days. They didn't know about coming earthquake or Trump making it hard to earn by exporting to USA. Suddenly the Thai government and elites have become quiet. The arrogance towards tourists is now an expensive luxury they can I'll afford.
political, economical & military elite. (monarchy, traditional aristocracy, topmanagers of largest enterprises & biz conglomerates, high bureaucrats & civil servants, leaders of political parties,...). Surely majorly Thaï, no?
Well yes, I'd concur with all that, but I also associate IQ with elites and they are all sadly lacking in that aspect. Maybe I'd call them accidental elites, generational elites, or opportunist elites. And oh yeah, let's not forget gangster elites.
Love it David! You are spot on! It's amazing what natural disasters can invoke! As for Trump,not a favourite of mine,but he is certainly using the U.S.'s
might and power in an influencing manner! Which in turn assists tourists wanting to visit Thailand! 😂 Good on ya Trump! Respect!
imagine if the USA is no longer the leader of the free world and China takes over the mantle?????
I can see quite a few pol pots in the Chinese communist party !!
Mark *******
I don't accept that from an insulting prick like you! No need for insults,but please forgive me lowering myself to your level!
You obviously don't know me, because none of those insults apply to me. But you wouldn't know that of course. That's
the failure of online communication! But where do you live,would love to meet you! And please don't take that as a threat,just a genuine effort to challenge your ignorance! 🙏 Inshallah! Trump is a prick,and I don't support him,but I suggest he knows what he is doing. Only time will tell!
From the way you reacted to my initial comment. Wow. Karen calm down. Go back and read my initial comment. Are you delusional. But the way you reacted to my comment m I wouldn't want to know you because you're an angry, close-minded, petty moron
Mark *******
There you go again, citing insults! 😂 That's often an example you have lost an argument! And you don't even know me, very petty! Or are you going to say that people can know each other on Facebook,as strangers! Hogwash! The only reason I'd want to meet you,is if you have the bollocks to repeat what you said face to face! I very much doubt it. But I'm always willing! Have dealt with plenty of undesirables whilst a Prison Officer, so I'm sure I could deal with you! Let's go for it! Have you the bollocks? I doubt it!
make all the excuses you want to protect your Idiocracy but you are wrong on the facts you are wrong on the truth you are wrong on the science and I am right and that is an immovable object that you cannot change or control no matter how offended your sensibilities might be.
Mark *******
Chill man or you'll have a heart attack! Lucy in the sky with diamonds! I'm cool and relaxed! 😎
Trade deficits and fiscal or federal deficits are distinct concepts that aren't directly related. A trade deficit occurs when a country imports more goods and services than it exports, which can be a normal and healthy aspect of a global economy. This imbalance can be a sign of a country's wealth and capital abundance, allowing it to purchase more goods and services from abroad.
It's essential to understand that trade doesn't have to be equal, but rather fair. The wealth and resources of countries vary significantly, influencing their trade balances. The notion that trade deficits are equivalent to federal deficits is a misconception. The national deficit, federal deficit, and federal debt are more critical concerns, as they impact the overall economy.
The issue of billionaires not paying their fair share of taxes has been a persistent problem since the Reagan era, contributing to the national debt and placing a greater burden on the lower and middle class. This topic warrants careful consideration and discussion.
try this word Michael. UN-SUS-TAINABLE. it couldn't continue. US was going broke fast. Only a businessman could see something had to change to rebalance. Scott Bessent understands and he is a genius. I get it too. But I can see you prefer the US living beyond it's means on borrowed money.
there you go again confusing trade deficits with Federal deficits they aren't even related there is no equivalence they do not cause the same problem at all did I mention that I'm an economist I was going to say that at the beginning but I was hoping that I could appeal to your good senses which over the course of our conversation you've proven beyond all doubt you lack completely.
I'm an economist too. Scott Bessant ex Yale also an economist. You think you have a monopoly of wisdom? Suck it up Mikey. And Dope on a Rope sleepy Joe has few weeks to go. They did everything to hoodwink the population while smearing GOP as undemocratic. Hypocrites who wasted trillions digging America deeper into deficits.
Anyone who reads my comments and then your comments would clearly see that rather than argue against the points I've made, like a juvenile mind you instead resort to personal attacks and logical fallacies, whereas I continue to argue the merits of my position with verified & factual information. Nothing more needs to be said. You've lost your mind and I have no intentions of following you down your rabbit hole. Good day!
you would say that wouldn't you! Lol. Suck it up Mikey. Respect to commander in chief Donald Trump and screw the liberal woke left all day long! Have a nice day!
It's so obvious that you never served our country! Your foul mouth towards America by calling that corrupt, treasonous, vile POS Trump the CIC says it all. I'm a Navy veteran, a former Tomcat driver, and you have no right to try to pretend you're some high minded patriot when all your words prove your nothing but a scared, spoiled and angry child that someone needs to take over their knee and spank your bare bottom with a switch! Fuck off Karen!
that's what I initially thought too! Seemingly makes no sense but it is the reason for the change which I'll try to explain. There's a belief amongst Tourist Department and Hotel owners group that "Tourists " who stay longer are not using expensive hotels but are using airbnb condos belonging to other foreigners who rent out illegally. The Thai hotel owners resent foreign landlords for competing for customers. They want Tourists who they imagine will only book two or three weeks in a hotel and not rent a condo for three months from a "horrible foreigner" lol
weird. I've never rented from a foreigner, but I've had the opportunity. I find that with foreign owned rentals you deal with a lot more suspicion and rarely ever get you deposit back. They are invasive, often having video cameras inside the house that only they have access to. I'd rather rent from a local that can come over and help me out when I need it. They are more friendly, understanding and kind. You know the best way to keep foreign property owners from profiting over locals? Don't let foreigners buy property. I think it is a terrible idea in every country. You are literally selling your country off.
I share all your sentiments but building thousands of condos to sell in US dollars GBP or Euros is big business. They don't have housing shortage in Thailand. Plenty of land and always more high rise blocks sprouting skywards
Betty *********
But not for their own people !!!!
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Oswald *******
Thailand is somewhat of a dump. What's the appeal?
I use to visit my uncle in the Phillipines when he was around all of his mates all old men all they did was complain my uncle use to laugh and say where else in thes west are you going to get $300 a month rentals and $5 breakfast
it’s been all over the online thai notice boards for a few months . you must complete a online application 3 days before you travel . i hope you managed to get into thailand 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Because they have formed the view that you're not a legitimate tourist
Todd *********
The 13 years stay was probably a good indication to them that you were not legitimately seeking a tourist exemption lol. But the crazies will be on here all day telling you that your 4th entry will get you denied, deported and banned. 🤣🤣
exactly! I have been reading all of these comments and this one of yours is spot on. I am not sure why people are saying, “I’ve come in 5 times this year but someone I know got pulled aside his third times.” Irrelevant. Entry is always at the discretion of the IO. But 13 years? I am a bit surprised he was able to get away with it for so long.
it's up to everyone to do what They think is ok. Anyone wants to take a chance tempting fate , ok.
Today, every border you go through , land or air .know exactly when and where you have been in and out of Thailand. You are on their list. As you said above, it depends on the immigration officer . It has often been reported, that going with one of the visa run companies gives you a better chance if you're on your 2 or 3 rd try . I don't do that myself, but must be easy to find out the companies that offer the surest service. I personally witnessed a bus with a few dubious tourists in Penang a few years ago, and they got their new visa same day as myself. As they say here " up to you".
right, it’s up to each individual to decide how to proceed. I’ve been coming to Thailand for 30 years on non-exemption, tourist visa, Non-B and now I am retired on non O-A. Like you, I never used and agency, always did everything the prescribed way and never once had an issue at any Thai border crossing. You are right, some dubious looking characters get admitted.
is visa exempt mean tourist trip ? I thought visa exempt means simply visa exempt for whatever reason and there is no limit on that for air and 2 times limit by land
if you come in without a visa, you are a tourist. 60 days. You can prolong 30. If you abuse this, you will eventually get pulled up. The decision is always up to the immigration officer letting you in , or not.
someone may enter visa exempt to have a business meeting, or to participate in a sports competition or to buy a condo. Visa exempt means just visa exempt. All this issues, confusion, misinderstings arise simply because Thai side is unable to define the law clearly. They need to say for example: max 2 visa exempt entry permitted within a 12-month period and just stick with that by all immigration officers. Japan, Korea, Europe and most other developed nations clearly define their visa laws.
it all boils down to the same rule. Don't complicate it more than they have. For the moment .it's 60 days, plus an option of extension 30 days more. If you want to stay longer, there are visas. It's not hard to understand. It is widely known/ accepted, that you can do this procedure twice. Which gives the person needing it 180 days.
I think that's quite generous.
Try that in other countries.
I've done my 5 months in Thailand legally since 1984. Never once had a problem. Stick to the rules. It's not confusing until FB arrived and every Tom Dick and Harry spouts his version.
Guess Brandon Thurkettle, John Stanners, Tod Daniels, all crazies, then. Got it.
No ones saying you *will* get denied, deported, and banned. Just that these days, the odds of getting denied entry etc increase the longer you chance it with back to back stays.
There are detention facilities for people deemed to have stayed too long and been ordered to book a flight back to the country of their passports origin. I have personally witnessed people getting denied for this reason.
they do a great job of real time helping people overcome their challenges. And yes, many others (lacking their experience) keep repeating you 'will' get denied, deported and banned. There is no 'these days' about it. There has always been scrutiny of nefarious entries. t's nothing new. The Thailand IO's will absolutely do their job. 'Deemed to have stayed too long'?? Are you attempting to refer to someone being caught on overstay? Yes there are facilities. As in every nation. And you have 'personally witnessed' people being denied for what reason?
As in, specifically told that they had stayed too long on tourist entries.
When I say deemed to have stayed too long, I mean stayed too many months on tourist stays. If you are denied at the airport, they may give you the option of going back to wherever you came from or to another neighbouring country.
However, they *can* also direct you to go back to your passport country - and they can put you in the holding cell until you do. All depends on how lucky/unlucky you get, but *generally*, if it does get to that stage, they will likely have given you at least one previous warning and made a record of it ("This time OK, next time get visa").
However, some people don't take the warning/s seriously and end up regretting it.
there is no such thing as 'staying too long' on tourist entries. There is no limit. You can be denied entry at any time if the IO's deem your use of the system to be sketchy. If you are denied entry at the airport, you will generally have the choice of your own country or country you arrived from. All you need to do is go sit in your cell, and book a ticket. If you don't have the means to book that ticket, obviously you were not a legit tourist anyway. Reinforcing their decision to deny. And yes, usually a warning (or ten) is given before denial of entry occurs
Well, yeah, legally there is no limit on paper. But in actuality, imm officers *do* deny people entry based on "you stay too long, get correct visas". You're right that you can be denied if the IOs deem your use of the system to be sketchy. One of the criteria tbey use for making that judgement is the total number of days in TH on visa-exemptions.
They will literally tell people this using those exact words, even though, on the reason for rejection documents, they'll record something like "insufficient funds", even if they *were* shown 20K Baht in cash. Or "no visa", even though many nationalities can enter visa-exempt.
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Juls ******
Maybe there is a "fine" for this kind of situation, idk. Chokdee.
Jan *******
You mean for years you cheated and you complain you finally got caught ?
Not sure which country you come from. But if some foreigner is denied entry to your country by your government - you will believe they do the right thing ?
It depends how many times he entered in the last year or so. There is no limit but if the IO believes you are not a tourist then they have a right to refuse entry or tell you to get a tourist visa next time. Doesn’t mean he’s done something wrong as it’s down to the discretion of the IO.
Mark *******
And the IO has to work under the Thai Immigration Act!!! 😊
he said, he stays for 4 months. Most people get a 2 week vacation. The new official rules, 30 days (no visa) beyond 30 days, you need an extended visa, upon arrival.
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Michael ********
Yes conversation i had two weeks ago was me explaining not enough time to get an extension (can see i dont stay long from my stamps) which i said politely in Thai. Her answer was go pattaya buy one 555 TIT
Alexey **********
Did you have Non-O/B before and you try to enter without visa now?
Jeremy ********
Technically there is no limit on entrances either via land or air…so just try another border location
Not true they are clamping down as I have been travelling Asia but with Thailand as a base, I have been here since December but went to Japan for a week after my first 60 days then Vietnam after my second 60 days for a week but this time they said they would let me back in but I had to book a return flight to England for 60 days time and if I was to come back to Thailand I was advised to get the DVT visa.
just this week there was a guy who is traveling thailand for many months as a tourist who got denied at BKK airport and then again at the land border. things have clearly changed
who cares about „official limits“? there will be internal immigration guidelines how the officers have to react and things have changed as we can see with the amount of denials this year. there have been other well known guidelines in the past like 90 days out of 180 days, etc.. anyway, just get a proper visa, it can be that easy… people are gaming the system and it would be great if they crack down more on these and make it really strict
all your comments that are the same every day on every post about no limits have almost zero value and don't help anyone, it's like "officially there are no prostitutes in Pattaya, it's a family destination".
Cut the crap and get straight to the point with the info you know is true and only write in follow-ups : it's up to the IO and there are internal guidelines.
People like Mr Nomad have no awareness regarding the challenges of other travelers, financial or otherwise. He just wants Thailand to fill up with wealthy Caucasians and perceives all others as unworthy.
yes, and he/she may or may not do so. And may or may not grant entry. At which point you contact an agency or arrange to fly in. Or reach out to a guy like Tod D and ask specific advice for your situation. Very helpful
yes but at the next border location you will get another I/O with different orders that might do the letter of the policy with no limitations on arrivals via air or land…never tell yourself NO let them tell you no
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John **********
Times have changed and they're cracking down on visa exempt entries. One a year should not be a problem but more than that can be
no, each entry plus an extension to immigration= 90 days ( for most passports) x 2. That's really pushing it, and always up to the officer stamping you in.
Philippines seeing Thaïland ‘s success with DTV visa has introduced their own DTV visa for one year. You r paid by another country n bring your money to spend here pretty neat! If you r over 50 Cambodia has a cheap retirement visa as well. Lots of options around here. It pays to shop around where u want to spend your moolah.
I’m not really sure that’s the case. Other than DTV making it easier than ever. There is definitely more trouser soiling on online forums. The guys has been doing this for 13 years!!! And will undoubtedly manage to get in again. There is no point telling people their
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th entry might be denied when people have been doing it for decades. Yes, it could absolutely happen if the entrant is deemed dodgy. But not for number of entries.
hmmm 8 years to finish the Air Force Academy which is only
A 4 year school in which you get your commission,…something ain’t adding up here…especially in the 1960’s when they would have booted straight to Nam and not let you stay in school
if that was the case, this conversation would not be occurring. And obviously anyone effectively using the tourist exemption scheme for any period of time is simply taking advantage of the system in place. That's how it works. Seems very reasonable
yet when folks find themselves suddenly stuck outside of the country they expect to live in, then it becomes very unreasonable and we get posts like this.🤣
Oh Mark. Warnings have ALWAYS been happening. The 'warning' is very common. My best friend here was given same 'warning' 3 years and 12 entries ago. And clearly the third entry won't be the reason for denial. As thousands do it and there is no limit. If they think you are trying to work/working or can't show you are able to support yourself or up to dubious activity... you will have a problem. Otherwise no. And has your 'friend' ever heard of border bounce agencies? Cmon man
brother I’m sure you want the world to stay the same it has the last 60 years but it hasn’t and won’t. 👍 I’ve know several other people who actually didn’t make it through, watch here long enough and you’ll see them too.
Get the right fucking visa and stop being a baby and it won’t be a problem.
lol, you are sure are you?! Good lord man. Lots has changed. And the DTV makes long term stay more easy than ever doesn't it? There has ALWAYS been people who don't make it through. There is always gonna be lineups at the overstay counter. It's the same everywhere. If there was a right visa for everybody, this page wouldn't be getting many visits would it?
I stay to try and help others. There is a right visa for everyone. 👍😂 That’s why I came here first on an METV and then bought a privilege visa to live. It’s all really simple honestly.
But times are changing and people have been getting stopped more lately. I have friends living here on every visa you can find. But if you think you can just skirt by visa exempt, it can and will catch up to you. Just get the right visa. Easy 👍
as can every wrong answer be found on Google. Which again is why the forum exists and has a strong following. Privilege visa is great if you don't qualify for LTR and it's the easiest visa out there. Which is awesome. But it's beyond the means of many. Yes, it was all quite simple for me also. But we both recognize that is not the case for many. Times are always changing. It's utterly useless to keep going back to this. Welcome to this century. As i know many people here skirting the edges of the system or encountering difficulties (in each of the 3 countries i live in + my own) there are patterns and changes in immigration policy and enforcement everywhere. Thailand is a bit unique and has many complexities that people encounter. Not so easy at all for many
there is no official limit on entrances via air or land…I know people back in the day that had 3 or more of the dreaded Red Stamp and still came in all the time…in Thailand just sabai sabai
you should be fine. With my job i am in Thailand for a month then leave for a month. I have been entering six times a year on visa exemptions for two years now and ive never been rejected. There is some truth in the crackdown though I suspect it's mainly aimed people constantly extending and doing border runs. There are certain things you can do to give you the best chance of not being rejected. My last 3 or 4 entries they've started paying more attention to me and have started asking to make sure I meet the requirements. These are things they've asked for, proof of a departure flight with details so I print off my flight booking confirmation, if im staying at a hotel i print off my hotel booking showing the duration of stay and hotel address and I also have 20,000 baht in cash, I keep it in foreign currency with half being USD and half being GBP. Two entries ago they asked to see all three.
but there is no official policy on the number of times…the I/O’s can and will make up their mind based off your individual “border arrivals” history…some will say no limits entrance some will say too many denied..it’s as clear as mud…good luck
mate, you are totally right! Ive seen it hundreds of times! There is no real rule about visa runs, and actually they cant decline you( o ly if you are on a black list), but they try hard with the other rules ( 20k baht cash, flught out ticket, booking of staying). Thats how people have been sent back from the border.
it’s not about the ability to understand or even write English it’s about tone in which you write…one would think with a person using Thai articles you would have embraced the sabai sabai Thai lifestyle…but hence I was wrong and you’re just a kปนt
Again you get what you give "c*nt". I do find it hilarious you think you're insulting me by calling me a simp though... I honestly couldn't care if you think or believe I'm a simp 🤷 I have someone who loves me dearly, you have your pillow you cry into every night, we are not the same.
what's even more hilarious than you thinking I'm a simp is you thinking I'm paying for my wife to be with me or that I ever paid for her to be with me 🤣🤣🤣🤣
you really don’t understand payments and how vague of a word it is…but yet you go straight to the most despondent meaning of it…if you pay the rent you’re paying for her to stay…if you pay for holidays you’re paying her to stay…if you buy food you’re paying her to stay..:but yet you went straight to the gutter meaning which shows me everything about you
you should take a look in the mirror, you're the one who took what I said to the gutter through your own thought process, not me. Our entire relationship has been equal and thats exactly what i meant by what i said. We both buy the groceries, we both pay to take our family on holiday, we both take each other on dates, and we both pay the mortgages. It's very clear why youre in a "complicated" relationship crying into your pillow every night. I'm done with your pathetic attempts at inflating your ego. Have a nice event kปนt
why? because I have a very healthy loving relationship with my wife after 10 years whereas you're clearly a salty lonely jealous man with no one who loves you? I'll take being simp for my wife of 10 years over being alone and salty any day of the week
there was a question mark there for a reason. Last time I came in the immigration officer said they're now cracking down on anyone staying more than 180 days a year
The same happened to me, I have been here since December but went to Japan for a week after my first 60 days then Vietnam after my second 60 days for a week but this time they said they would let me back in but I had to book a return flight to England for 60 days time and if I was to come back to Thailand I was advised to get the DVT visa.
he’s right and he’s wrong. I’ve been down this track with immigration. There is no limit it’s at the discretion of the immigration officer. What they’re looking for is people trying to live in Thailand with a visa exemption. If you’re travelling in and out regularly over a year or more they can turn you down. They know tourists come spend a couple of weeks or months then go to other Asian countries then often return to Thailand. They can see that in your passport. But if you’d travelling back and forth from your home country every few months then it’s an indication you’re living between the two countries. They can refuse you entry. I was doing that from July 22 until September 23 back and forth then came back to live. On the prior trip I’d set up a bank account with 800,000 baht and had an email from my immigration agent detailing the cost and process for a retirement visa. The immigration officer looked at my passport and asked me why I was coming and going because it appeared I wasn’t a tourist. I explained, showed him my bank book balance and email. He said nothing and stamped my passport through. If I hadn’t had that set up I’d have told him my plans and would be happy to get a visa next time if that was required. You got to think it through, that immigration officer has a lot of power at that point and he can turn you away or work with you as long as you respect him and show respect for the Thai laws.
I agree with you completely. If you are staying here they want you to get the proper long stay visa. They do look at your track record, specifically for that calendar year.
We are now in the process of getting our Retirement (Non-O) visa.
I actually went back and spoke to the supervisor ( they let me in through a side gate) after she was denied entry and after a lot of arguing they let her in. I said “you can’t let me in and not my wife- so they let her in with a warning”
Yeah, they might stop you if you come several times a year on visa exempt. But if you come and go within 30 days each time and goes back to your home country in between it’s rare to get stopped.
You got no "visa". When you enter visa-exempt, they don't give you a visa. They just stamp a "stay permit" into your passport. You cannot enter Thailand visa-exempt several times within each 365-days period. After two visa-exempt stays of 60+30 days, you will most probably get refused entry after you have maxxed out the past 6 months with visa-exempt stay permits and their 30-days extensions. You are not supposed to use tourist visa or visa-exempt entries for a longstay in Thailand . . . since the laws changed on July15th, 2024, Immigration is taking a closer look
You said, "After two visa-exempt stays of 60+30 days, you will be refused entry." You state this as a fact. Is this the case every time? I haven't lived in Thailand in a couple years so maybe the new rules explicitly state this but I hadn't heard of this.
lol - i just proved you stupid AND a liar. Now that's a good boy to fix your text. You are welcome for the correction. Appalling lack of knowledge shown here.
you are really thick, thicker than a brick. I just checked the London Embassy website. There is no proof of 20,000 THB needed for applications to a tourist visa single or multiple entry. In Germany, the proof is required. So you are correct if you just said: It depends on specific country and specific embassy if the proof is asked for or not
actually it's not a fact, but we receive more and more reports that Immigration is taking a hard stance against people who try repeated visa-exmpt entries . . I am taking your criticism as being profounded, so I changed & softened the text accordingly in so that you will "most probably get refused entry after you have maxxed out the past 6 months with visa-exempt stay permits and their 30-days extensions"
I just checked the London Embassy website. There is no proof of 20,000 THB needed for applications to a tourist visa single or multiple entry. In Germany, the proof is required. So you are correct if you just said: It depends on specific country and specific embassy if the proof is asked for or not
OPEN your EYES! Application to Tourist Visa (single or multiple) using E-Visa System of the Royal Thai General Consulate Frankfurt. . . . Requirement of 20,000 THB just added a fewdays ago . . . . Do you need any other proofs, you d......k ? Because I doubt if the admins allow me linking the consulate webpage
I don't like to draw speculations, rather follow the flow and go day-by-day. Who knows what's on the mind of people who come up with new laws and proposals for new laws every week ? 😉
From what i read online they make it more difficult to live in Thailand on border runs. And i think it is because of the DTV where you need to have a minimum amount on your bank account
well it is down to the discretion of the immigration officer to decide. They can give the maximum on exempt on arrival, or they can give less if they so decide, depending on how they feel in the circumstances. Always worth a check to see what you get at the time and not just surmise you will get the maximum available for your passport.
that is totally false. If you are from a country, that gets 60 day visa exempt they will give you 60 days that is a policy. It’s not up to the discretion of the immigration officer if you are visa exempt. Never heard of anyone being stamped in for less than what the current Visa exempt stay allows. 30 days or 60 days.