What are the challenges of teaching English in Thailand as a foreigner?

The fact that you can't spell certain words correctly, say's it all!

this guys using to much fabric softener.

What is the statistical evidence for Thai people having low IQ?

Thai Surgeons, Lawyers, Academics and Journalists seem to me to have high IQ.

Try Bangkok FCCT, ChitLom.

Your perception of Thai people depends on the company you keep.

Wow!! Sounds like another trumper got his butt hurt. From his language it’s obvious this is a loser who doesn’t accept personal accountability. EVERYONE ELSE is to blame. NOTHING is his fault. The battle cry of the truly delusional and depraved. Besides all that you mentioned it would be pure serendipity if you were to also leave with a little more than you arrived with. Don’t forget to mention the herpes!!!

Wow extremely disappointing and disrespectful to insult an entire people that you are most likely trying to take advantage of in the first place. Have some respect for humans please. I am a Thai American and find this hurtful.

At first living abroad is like a vacation - everything is amazing and cheap, and the people are so nice. Then you begin to realize that it's not all what it seems and they start to get under your skin. Things that should be easy are impossibly difficult. If only they would do things the "right way". A lot of expats give up here and move. But if you can make your peace with the differences, figure out where to fit in and accept what you can't change, you discover that your experience closely matches what you make of it.

I was thinking this post is just a wind up … especially as you’re even afraid to show your face Hoodie boy .. ?

I assume you are now no longer in the LOS ? .. so you’re happy now ?

Sounds like someone who wants to change paradise to the sithole he come from 🤣🤣

Some points sounds familiar to me 5

OP - are you ok? Do you need help?

But......he's right 555

The world is a reflection of our thoughts.

Joee Manny < some advice to the little poor boi that can't. Go back home to mommy and try to make a life and do the transition to becoming a Man. If you are successful you'll have a great chance at being accepted, no matter where your travels take you. Also, stop asking out the "girls" with large Adam's apples... 👍

What racist, sexist, dumb generalisation shit did I just read 😂 worst of all its hypocrisy as well, especially the IQ part.

Project much?

I have never been treated with anything other than the utmost respect from Thai people. Not once have I encountered any problems. Thai's treat me the same as I treat them ans as i treat people the world over.

Text book narcissism

This has been the funnest thread ever!!

You forgot to mention, THIN white women with blond hair.

According to fact checkers:

Mostly true... 555

There are good days also, but when you have had a day of 'challenging' experiences it's normal to want to vent, healthy too!

Possibly, or you may just not be used to the Thai way of describing people. They don't mess around with politically correct ways of describing you; if you're fat, then they describe you as fat, if you're Black, then you'll get described as Black; if you're not conventionally 'good looking', they will call you ugly ... It's not a criticism, it's a description, minus the political correctness.

Something you need to get used to ... They aren't 'judging' you, they are honestly describing you.

I believe it is important to consider a more nuanced view than the OP. Adapting to different workplace norms and cultures is part of working abroad, and many foreign teachers in Thailand report positive experiences, highlighting the welcoming nature of Thai schools and communities. Thai cuisine, known for its diversity, offers both healthy and indulgent (aka unhealthy) options. The use of sugar and MSG is not unique to Thai cooking, and many people appreciate Thai food for its variety and flavor. Living in a foreign country often involves learning new legal and bureaucratic processes, a common aspect of the expatriate experience worldwide. It's unfair and inaccurate to stereotype a whole population based on your limited experiences; Thailand is known for its hospitality and warm social interactions. Addressing racial and gender biases is important, but it's not representative or fair to paint any country with a broad brush based on these biases. Prospective teachers should seek out a variety of perspectives and approach such opportunities with openness and a willingness to embrace a new culture.

Life is hard and it's even harder if you're an idiot!!!

Seems like not a Thailand but OP problem to me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Was there a question or this just rant about how life can be unfair?

I taught for a couple of years. There were headaches, I was not treated fairly, there were most definitely teachers who were better than me. The food sucked and I had to be at school on time in the mornings, I had to grade homework and wear nice clothes, blah blah blah.

All-in-all, the experienced sucked (yes even for fair skinned people), but it was worth while and I would do it again, if for no other reason than experience, culture exchange, to give back to my host community..

I started out sympathetic to you... but just leave Thailand, If you haven't already. And don't come back.

This is not my experience

I see you've had a hard time and there's probably a whole lot more to this mishap than what you've written. I sew it jaunt been what you were expecting or what was promised to you. It happens in life and for some of us certain countries are just not the right fit. There are certain countries I'd never go to and certain ones which disappointed me and also made me slightly bitter and I never understood why others loved those countries.

Mostly correct to be fair.

Yikes. This is very ugly has ugly racial tones. Hope admin removes this post.

Wow, this is the most racist comment I have read on FB in a looong while. Are there Thais in the group? No one complaining to FB? To the OP: Thailand is for Thai people, they don’t need immigrants like Europe, USA, Canada etc as their demographic situation is still strong enough. They don’t want your culture, your “common sense”, your telling them how to run their own business, how to smile and how cook their own food (you can also cook your own). Has someone forced you to come here? It’s funny how you came into a country of people”with lower IQ compared to 5 years old with Down syndrome” in hopes to get a job and actually make living while the only “skill” you can offer is English language (and you are not even a blond). It certainly looks like someone has a very Low IQ, but they are not Thai

You should leave right away Karen

I assume that you have taught English in Thailand and had a bad experience. If so, you need to learn that paragraphs need to be organized and run-on sentences aren’t acceptable. Nobody likes reading a wall of text, especially when it’s hateful and racist.

I found your random hate of MSG especially random and unrelated. I would have left that out of your ‘dissertation’. It doesn’t pertain at all to the horrible point that you’re trying to make.

Based on your tirade and the way it’s been written, I don’t think you should be teaching anyone the English language, bruh.

absolutely true, well said

@Joee ******

, well this certainly went well

Please just leave.

I’m a “qualified teacher” (Master’s degree) who did a year in Thailand. Yes, a key reason why I left to teach in Japan was the crazy bureaucracy at all levels. But I never got the impression that it was caused by racism. Thai people have to deal with the same whenever they deal with the government.

And Thai people suffer indirectly from the red tape with visas and schools and agencies. Since people with options are put off teaching in Thailand, schools frequently have to scrape the bottom of the barrel to get anyone in the classroom at all. Thai students lose out when they have to learn from alcoholic sexpats who are only teaching because they can’t do anything else. You complain about foreign men in Thailand, but you don’t really have to associate with or rely on those kinds of people if you don’t want to.

Since Thai schools are so desperate for teachers that they’re willing to keep such lowlifes (absolutely nothing against boozing and whoring, but please don’t do it when you have people relying on you the next morning), it’s hard for me to believe that teachers get fired for suggesting common-sense ideas. Ignored yes, but fired?

Actually given what I saw foreign teachers put the agencies and schools through, I can’t blame them for becoming jaded with foreigners. And I didn’t really see much prejudice against foreigners anywhere else in Thailand.

The same goes for gossip: I never saw Thais gossip more about foreigners than they did about each other.

You talk about feeling like Thai people are stupider, but remember that foreigners in Thailand are a select group who inherently have broader horizons than most. There are lots of dumb and narrow-minded people in every country I’ve visited, including my home country of Australia.

And as for sugar in the food: I personally like my som tam and fruit shakes with on sugar, and it was the easiest thing in the world to ask the sellers not to put it in.

Even though I can’t see myself working in Thailand again, I’m glad I got the chance to experience it, because I got to see a side of life I otherwise never would have got to see. And I still like the place and enjoy visiting from time to time.

Wow comments! Joee Manny you're hilarious!

What is your native country by the way? Is everybody so hot tempered there?! No pictures of your fit body as well. But it's ok. Listen, Thailand is for kids, I agree, choose some serious country next time, like Russia for example- a lot of big fit men I tell you and they need English teachers too! Go try, cool down there, it can help you cure your frustration of being a looser even in such an easy place like Thailand

All the best

This is nothing less than hate speech. If they don’t take it down then it says bad things about this group.

I'm not sure why this post hasn't been shut down as other posts have in the past. However it's been an entertaining read 555

I'm a 16 years old Thai girl that has been to 17 countries around the world and have always been interested in other cultures, I never expected any country I'm travelling to to be perfect. Every country has its own goods and bads, so as Thailand. In the school I'm studying in (an international school in bkk), everyone respects other's cultures, black friends and teachers are loved and treated as equally as other colored skin. I do understand what you meant by racism in Thailand, you've probably met many stupid people here but that doesn't mean all Thai people are as bad as those few groups of people you went through. I don't think generalising a country by only the people you've met is a good thing. Sorry if you left Thailand feeling bad, it's life, I hope you'd move on soon and become happier as a human being. Have a good day.

Sorry to hear that with your bad experience but it’s not fair to being bad country with your attitude and not even know your behavior, lots of friends they are happy with are working here and living here, the agency must sign the contract with the school and looking for the teacher for them,the color are not important we have the dark skin too, about thai food you can order none sugar or not spicy it easy and make sense, if the Thai food are bad we should not be in the world ranking or can call here is the world kitchen (we export alot of food)!, Thailand law we have used for everyone who breaking the law here, never have the rules that from the immigration opening the bank account to get the visa if you are not applying the retirement or marriage visa that you need to show your statement have the money enough for living or taking care your family here, for Non b teaching visa you must have the Non B visa + work permit otherwise you can’t open the bank account every bank are the same, if you want to stay here you should apply the visa and many types that have lots of foreigners applying or you want to have the business we are welcome, if I have the IQ lower than 5 years old, should not have the 3 companies that can call I m the owner, work hard, royal, positive attitude, I believe that if you hate here should fly out to country that you love, should not leaving with the country that you hate will not make you happy and good healthy.

The degree of anger, bigotry, and outright racism displayed by this poster says everything about Joee Manny (who is not a member of this group) and nothing useful about Thailand or Thai people.

What a miserable human being. 🙂

Interesting perception & yes some of what you say is true but not all and different levels.

You sound like your need to get out if Siam for a while or permanent..

Bruh who hurt you?

alot of that is true

Is everything ok at home?

MSG?? 😂 That's been debunked long ago.

The usual bunch of psychopathic judgemental ass holes commenting here. They don't like their fantasies being questioned.

There is a lot of truth in what you have to say. Thailand can be a very difficult place to survive and there are a few more challenges than those you mentioned.

Every country has its challenges and weirdos and Thailand is no different.

I guess that you find life is challenging wherever you are?

If you haven't figured out what our point is by now, you're beyond chronically clueless

What "point" are you demanding. You say Thailand is miserable, we say it's not. That's our point.

Thai children speaking English with a Ricky Ricardo accent. What could go wrong?

I’m enjoying my time in Thailand.

I’m a self funded retiree and don’t have those employment pressures you spoke of.

I enjoy my interactions with Thai people and certainly I’ve had nothing but courtesy and respect from them.

I’m happy living here.

We were back in Australia last month and whilst I love my home country it is micro managed. Everything.

Food is an individual’s choice.

Unusual for Thais to comment about a stranger’s behaviour - usually “it’s not their business”. You can pass through a village and no one (except the kids🥰) will notice you.

If you are being noticed I expect it’s because of behaviour.

Keep safe

👍😁😎

Oh wow 😯. Well I am a male white European living and working in Thailand for the past 4 years in hospitality area.

I will make people upset here but yes most Thai people are racists especially vs tain colour skin.

White skin colour is to them a sign of beauty... Same as in Japan, Korea, China etc....

They have been educated and formated this way it isn't their fault but their education.

Yes Thai people love gossiping even in front of you outloud (in Thai language obviously).

French people also love to gossip that's a global problem.

The country isn't perfect but it's a wonderful place to be. The life quality is good. The food well like everywhere you can eat healthy or not. If you don't want MSG you can always cook by yourself.

You are either a troll or one of the most hateful people I have ever met.

Go home.

Do you think you did anything wrong during your time here?

Could you have done anything differently that might have made your time here more enjoyable?

I go to live and work in a foreign country and the natives do not do everything the way I like so it must be their fault. Hummm... maybe it's me? Nahhh... I'm sure it's their fault after all they all have low IQ's.

Sounds like Thailand ain't the country for you then

Seriously, how do you really feel?

How was this post approved?

Someone had a bad trip

Just FYI, msg is not bad for you. The falsehoods of msg actually have a racist background in the usa those rumors were spread to stop people from eating Chinese food. Before u get on your soapbox, learn your facts.

You are just a racist....that is all.....

Damn, I love the answers to his post. 5555

I guess you left already , otherwise , just wrap up and run now but fast ,

btw keep your rubbish with you ,

we do not need your filthy opinion ,

just because you did not understand that this is not your home comfort zone ,

Get the fuck outa here

You came to Thailand and tried to make it the way you wanted. You failed as everyone knew you would. Go and try it somewhere else. If you ever decide to teach English anywhere else you realy should improve your skills somewhat first if your comments on this thread are anything to go by.

Fake profile

So, you’re a failed English teacher with a chip on their shoulder about race?

Why don’t you fuck off back to whatever shithole you came from and get a real job instead of calling the entire nation of Thailand retards with the mental capacity of 5yr olds.

The idea that there are no physically fit foreign men in Thailand is utterly absurd. You obviously spent most of your time in Pattaya or nana. Ever heard of muaythai? Ever been to Phuket? It’s hardly full of fatties….

Honestly, I wonder how high your IQ is compared to an average Thai, the fact you felt the need to post this indicates you’re not as intelligent as you might think.

This kunt

You are a racist as well as an idiot.

That's all correct and the low IQ is not exclusive to Thailand, it's common in most of south east asia. I will however argue this point, Thailand is still an amazing place to live and a great country with lots to offer in terms of lifestyle. Being an English teacher would obviously be miserable but if you have money already or an easy online source of income, Thailand can still be paradise. The thai people can often ruin the experience with their dishonesty, racism and greed but it's the same in all poor countries.

NEWS SCOOP: Humans colonize in like subsets and probably have since the advent of fire for cooking, and because of this, we have a predisposition to tribalism. It's just the way Humans roll.

Something tells me this dude got dumped by this ladyboy friend. He's also a minority in the western world so he gets discriminated against in the west also. Poor guy, came to Thailand with no money and wasn't welcomed.

Habibi come to Dubai.

This pearl of wisdom helps explain why you have one Facebook friend 😂 😂 😂.

Go home to your mom and cry your little baby,you sound not mature enough to stay in another country

Some of his points are not wrong but you have to roll with the punches here and learn to make it work for you. On the flip side most western countries are awful to live in now certainly the UK for instance. Thailand certainly has its faults and drawbacks but there are far worse places to live.

If you’ve got something to say, say it, don’t hold back 😭😭😭

You better be nice to him or he'll call you fat. Just sayin'

If you think you're only finding arseholes everywhere and anywhere you go, its worth asking yourself; what's the one, single common denominator in all these encounters?

Answer: It's you.

You're the problem.

Sounds like a sacked teacher 🙄😂

As a lot of people often say, people that go into teaching do so simply because they can't think of anything else to do or don't have the motivation to do something more interesting and exciting.

I have first hand experience of teachers and I can tell you they are mostly university educated spoilt brats who totally owe their existence to 'mummy and daddy' who came up with the money for their education only for them to take the easy route at the end of it.

I have only respect for Thailand and it's people yes not every one is nice same as everywhere else. Thai culture is about their deep routed religion and IMHO smacks western countries and their culture out of the park.

I see extremely hard working people in Thailand working long days (normally in excess of 12 hours) and 6 days a week mostly on low pay. Brats would never even notice this 🙄

🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

Don’t get discouraged mate. Clearly this isn’t the first country you failed at. And definitely not the last either. You sound like a 5 year old with Down’s syndrome. But not as smart. Take your beating like a man and move on.

This is a perfect summarisation.

I don't think it's just a Thai thing. I think the disliking of you is a universal phenomena

Go home, we don't want foreigners like you.

So you hate living in Thailand? Go home and crawl back under the rock you came from. What a disgrace you are

@Joee ******

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I found this difficult to fap to........ difficult but not impossible.

Hi my friend

Thai food is not healthy for sure, and thaiwomens love to much money every body know that , but you can avoid this twos things

-cook yourself your healthy food it s easy and a real pleasure many organic farm everywhere.

-never talk to thaiwomens they always finish for beg for money and give unforgettable head hashes

-Thailand is for chill and relax but not for work or drink alcool

If you put those basic rules in your life you will

Enjoy the country for long

Remember that the farang will be always an walking ATM here

And really nothing wrong can happen to you...

D

This is disgusting and disrespectful

So how was your first Thai school teaching experience? Ha ha

To be fair I have seen and experienced many similar things in thai schools...

But don't get bitter or it'll never work out.

There are many good things as well obviously - try and find the positives or ur gonna have to leave for sure....

People who don’t have English as their first language should not teach English no one likes your stupid accent

I can understand if your afraid to show your face and only show the back of a hoodie also those with heavy accents from there countries are frowned upon

I think about Thais not wanting foreigners in their country is true They tolerate but don't really accept . Just happy to get the money

Can't say I've had any issue with Thai people in around 10 years on and off of living in Thailand. When it comes to making expat friends, I find it to be very introverted compared to where I lived last, Mongolia. Not that there's anything wrong with that, it's just not really my vibe.

This is a good to the bone example of The TRUE Thailand...and before any of you say it's not ...I've been married to a Thai and lived with her family for 10 years . I'm just the family ATM machine . I put.uo.with it for.my.wife and kids .

Can you actually be any more offensive? Seriously, just because you have had a bad experience doesn't mean everyone has or will. Thai people are beautiful, intelligent and caring ....unless you disrespect them. Obviously from reading your rant, you haven't treated others with respect and it's come back and hit you square in the face.

Satire

Wow. Sounds like Joee Manny got out of the wrong side of bed ... like forever... get over it mate move on get a life

Life abroad can be hard. It’s harder when you’re stupid.

I don t like visa burocracy in thailand but is better then in europe. Try to move a thai to european country and see how is difficult, also for tourism only is expensive and you instead can get visa free for 1 month here

Every line here is true. They also have name here for skin color. Its no more farang, it is khek, if you have more melanin in your skin lol.

Thai people are Judgmental. They will judge you by your look. And since the teaching job is entirely based on how much the parents would pay, they always want a homeless white nomad who ended up somehow in Thailand rather than you. Get used to it.

Cba reading all that bye 👋

wake up and look at a country like the USA far from perfect, serious mass shootings monthly in a mall, school, or university. so many countries have their downsides. And if Thai does not want people long term then why was I given a long term 10 year visa without 90 day reporting based upon my working experience. And I work out 1-2 hours for 6 days a week for the last 39 years and I am in good shape. not like the people you describe. yes I am aware of all of the downsides of Thai culture but I see and experience more upsides. The west is no paradise.

The only time I experienced anything near what you described was on my visit to the immigration office in Chon Buri. I was told I would encounter disrespect there but it shocked me just the same.

Someone should call him a WAAAAMBULANCE

Thanks for sharing your negativity🕶

I am willing to bet you do not get along with anyone except a few close friends that you may have. You give me the feeling that you are entitled and not willing to adapt to other customs and most likely view Thai people as below you. Just my opinion.

OK

When you can not adapt, well, you found out.

Somebody has obviously been rejected and has anger management issues

Time for home. You obviously have challenges with human interaction, Thais are friendly, outgoing and love to interact with people.

You might be a native English speaking somebody, but definitely not a qualified English language teacher holding a diploma issued by an University. You seem to come from the bottom of society using gutter language. Sure, there is no place for you here 🧑‍🎄

Joe Manny you sound so bitter about life in Thailand. You insult people right now with your comments. If you couldn't survive or like Thailand that is fine, just move on to the next chapter in your life. You had a bad experience but others have good experiences. There is good and bad in every country. Maybe you was fired from being a teacher because of your attitude.

Other than that Mrs. Lincoln, what did you think of the play?

According to his profile he has one friend. Says it all really.

Imagine thinking that your skin color and appearance don't matter in other countries...

Adapt, evolve, survive. We're not in Kansas anymore.

Bro, what is your issue. Just because you don't know how to play the game. I love Thai food but I also eat foreign food. No one told you to come here to be an English teacher and get treated like shit. You should have known better. The ones that know how to play the game come here and be their own boss. We have enough money saved and are willing to spend it for fun. Thai people can be fake but so is aevery farang here. Sorry you had a bad experience, but I love being treated like a King here. #passportbro

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Bizarre rant. Lots of offensive opinions on display.

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