What are my options for obtaining a new visa after making a mistake with my marriage visa in Thailand?

Oct 28, 2024
24 days ago
Will ******
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Hi I've made a mistake on marriage visa and dipped below 400k two weeks ago.

The agent, who is more a lawyer, said I need to leave when visa finishes (5th), without really giving me much info of what to do next.

They said 'as by immigration regulation, the 60- days Thai visit family can only be obtained only once' (which I did last year)and that I need to make sure I leave on a multi entry.

What are my options for re obtaining a visa via Thai embassy in a neighbouring country?
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The user is facing issues with their marriage visa after dipping below the required 400k THB in their bank account. They have been advised to leave the country on expiry and mentioned that immigration rules state that a family visit visa can only be obtained once. The community suggests several options including applying for a Non-O visa based on marriage, potentially using a cooking class to secure a DTV visa, and options to re-enter Thailand on a visa-exempt entry before applying for a new visa type. Engaging with the immigration office or using a reliable agency is recommended for specific guidance.
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Rod *********
This happened to me. I had the funds for 1 year in the bank and provided the requested documentation from the bank that immigration required and surprise was refused. The funds must be in only 1 account. They gave me a 90 day extention until the account was seasoned for 3 MONTHS. My 1 year ext. was then granted. The funds have been in a Thai bank for over 10 years. The reason I used 2 of my accounts was because my immigration account was short by 6000bt so I combined the 2 accounts in my name but that seemed to go over their heads. There is no reference to have the money in only 1 account on their website. Haha and had to also pay 1900 bt for the 90 day ext to visit family..
Matt *******
My own experience, they tend to follow the rules as officers' files at immigration are audited by federal. It be foolish for any officer to sacrifice their career prospects for something obviously detectable by the auditors.
Chris ******
@Matt ******
Half the Visas are done nudge ,nudge ,wink ,wink ! How does this obvious and detectable activity get through the last 25 years of audits ,throughout the kingdom .?
Erik *******
@Chris *****
Time to take your pills dude
Chris ******
Erik *******
@Chris *****
Good boy
Greg ***********
@Will *****
Yes, you need to leave before your existing stay permit expires

*** then re-enter Thailand visa-exempt and get stamped in for 60 days

*** fill up your bank account above the 400.000.- THB mark. No seasoning required at this point!

*** visit Immigration with your updated bankbook showing the 400.000.- THB sitting in it, a rental contract (or your wife and her housebook & ID card) and apply for the

“Change of Visa Type”

From the 60-days visa-exempt, to the 90-days Non-Imm-O family visa.

***you will be required to pay 2000.- THB for this application to the “change”

*** the 90-days Non-Imm-O visa will be issued “under consideration” for 14 days (hence for the application to the change, a minimum of 15 days must be left on your stay permit stamp!)

*** You pick up your 90-days Non-Imm-o visa on the date they gave you

***As soon as the 400.000.- THB have been sitting in your account for two months, and you got the “bank letter of guarantee” to show this

you can apply for the “1-year Extension of stay based on being married to a Thai wife” using the 400K deposit as financial proof. This application will cost you 1900.- THB

*** And you will be back to where you lost the thread. Never ever let the deposit fall under the required amount

*** in case Immigration tells you that you need to prove a 2-months seasoning of the 400.000.- THB for the application to the initial 90-days visa, then just buy yourself the time by either extend the visa exempt entry by 30 more days, OR by applying for the 60-days “family visit extension”
Will ******
ORIGINAL POSTER
If I apply for non O in Hanoi ( which I might do) its asking for 400k for two months but doesnt explain of it's a Thai bank requirement

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Amgarozi ********
@Greg **********
you write at the end : "or by applying for the 60 days "family visit extension" ".

What is this "60 days "family visit extension" ? Does it mean when i am in Thailand with a tourist visa (i mean entering thailand without visa, just stamp in passport for 60 days) i can extend those 60 days by another 60 days (="family visit extension" 60 days) because my wife is thai?
Greg ***********
@Amgarozi *******
yes, that's what this extension is for. If your marriage to a Thai wife has been acknowledged in Thailand, you visit an Amphoe office and get the printout of your marriage registry. Visit Immigration together with your wife and apply for the "60-days extension based on family visit". You can but receive this 60-days extension only once per entry
Will ******
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Greg **********
thanks.. I'm using a company called Workmaster to process everything and they've told me since I applied for a 60 day 'visit Thai family visa' before marriage visa I can't do that again. Not sure if that includes any other 60 day visa.

They haven't given me any advice other than this hence why I'm asking here and will find another agent
Greg ***********
@Will *****
you don't need another visa. You just EXIT Thailand and re-enter VISA-EXEMPT. And then apply for the 90-days Non-Imm-O Family Visa on Immigration. It is called "CHANGE OF VISA TYPE" . . YOUR requirements are listed under number 6 . . . . . .
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Greg ***********
@Will *****
then visit Immigration and ask them if they will process your application for a "change of visa type" after you exited and reentered on a visa exempt entry. And ask them if the 60 days stay permit from the visa-exempt entry allows you enuff time to apply for the 90-days visa and from there to the 1-year extension. As normally there is no seasoning requirement of the 400K for the initial visa, only for the extension it needs to have seasoned for 2 months
Cris ******
I thought you only need the proof of funds two months prior to applying for it?? It's not for the entire year
Graham ******
@Cris *****
correct, there is no minimum amount until 2 moths before the next extension application
Cris ******
@Graham *****
OK ok 👍
Moshi *****
Why you use an Agent, you only need go Immigration office with proof of income of 40,000bt per month That's how I got my Marriage Visa no problem.
Graham ******
@Moshi ****
The only proof of 40k income now accepted by most Immigration Offices is from working inside Thailand, not international transfers
Frank **********
@Graham *****
that doesn't make sense. Most married people are probably not working in Thailand.
Graham ******
@Frank *********
why should it make sense? This is Thailand.
Will ******
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Graham *****
this is why I use an agent...
Kevin *******
This problem is fixable with a good agent.
Brook ********
This is why I recommend you put the money in a dedicated fixed deposit account and forget it exists.

The surety account should be separate from all your other accounts. It probably would also be advisable to use a different bank than your day to day accounts to prevent the bank from doing anything as well.
Will ******
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Brook *******
yes I'm stupid not to do this earlier. Thanks for advice
Erik *******
Apply for DTV visa with 1 week Thai cooking class. You will get in 2 days a 5 years multiple entries visa with far less headaches. No stupid rule like 400k THB in a Thai bank account .
Guddu *************
@Erik ******
keep it a secret as well even from your Thai wife . Save your passport info as well. Don't be an emotional person as
Thomas *******
@Erik ******
If you did something like this to start out your stay in Thailand, even though you are over 50, would it have an effect on moving to a non-o visa later?
Vlad ******
@Erik ******
isn't for a DTV visa 500k THB requirement?
Erik *******
@Vlad *****
And you are good to go for 5 full years !!!
Erik *******
@Vlad *****
Yes. But money can stay in a foreign bank account (no need yo transfer in a Thai bank account and to let it there sleeping): it’s a one time show when you apply (1 bank statement ) then you can spend it all the day after you get the visa. No need to keep the money above a limit . No stupid things like this.
Vlad ******
@Erik ******
thanks for clarification. How does it work with that 1 week Thai cooking class? I have income from an online business registered in a Western country, but I see some hurdles with providing all necessary documentation to prove this. Idea about 1 week Thai cooking class seems much easier. How would I proceed with this? Do you have experience with successful application for DTV this way?
Wiz *******
@Vlad *****
this is the group for you:
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Vlad ******
@Wiz ******
thank you
Wiz *******
@Vlad *****
you do not need to prove income, you need to show above the threshold on your most recent (or last X months, depending on the embassy) bank statements. The official rules say that you must be outside of Thailand to apply, but not necessarily in the country of your passport. You apply via an official online portal and select the embassy corresponding to your physical location. That embassy may have additional or specific requirements so look it up ahead of time. The visa they issue is in pdf format and everything is done online. Some embassies in the region however still process manually so look into this and select what best fits your needs and your situation. It's a great visa to have. Best of luck 🙏🏻
Colin **********
I did this once on a thai spouse visa, I paid a bill from the wrong account, but realised 20 minutes later and correct it, the immigration lady asked what happened I told her and she overlooked it, but I guess it will depend on the amount and if you corrected it quickly.
Will ******
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Colin *********
my card was overcharged. I didn't notice for two days unfortunately 😕
John **********
As long as you have the money in the bank and can prove that you can leave the country close to the expiry date and either apply for a 90 day non-o visa based on marriage and return after its granted, or return visa exempt and apply at your local immigration office
Will ******
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@John *********
yes have it in bank. No choice but to leave. But question is how do I apply for new one, on line with Thai embassy in Thailand or thru Thai embassy in country I visit?
Greg ***********
@Will *****
you exit Thailand and don't apply anywhere. You just come back visa-exempt. And then apply for the "change" from the visa-exempt stamp to the 90-days Non-Imm-O Family Visa on Immigration
Will ******
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@Greg **********
I'm reluctant to do visa exempt as a few years ago I had a similar thing happen - immigration stopped me and said I shd have applied at embassy. I was v lucky to get back in
Greg ***********
@Will *****
then before you apply outisde of Thailand, open the website of the embassy or consulate where youwish to apply, and READ carefully what they require for the application to a 90-days Non-Imm-O family visa. It is NOT the same requirements everywhere! There are slight differences for example between Hanoi and Savannakhet
Will ******
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@Greg **********
thanks, that's really good to know. Was thinking Hanoi or Tokyo, as I know the cities well.
John **********
@Will *****
then exit Thailand and apply for the non-o using the method for the country you apply from
Frank **********
@Will *****
Thailand does not have Embassy in their own county. Lolol
Will ******
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Frank *********
I'm being a dumbass.. not thinking straight atm
Frank **********
@Will *****
it's okay. We all go through that at one time or another.
Will ******
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John **********
@Will *****
you need to apply through the thai embassy for the country you are physically in at the time, if they use the online system use that, if they don't go in person. There is no thai embassy inside Thailand. If you want to apply inside Thailand you do so at immigration but you'll need to get off your current extension and return on either visa exempt or on a tourist visa to do so
Will ******
ORIGINAL POSTER
@John *********
the agent did tell me to apply for non immigrant O, I'm guessing that's the same thing
John **********
Will ******
ORIGINAL POSTER
@John *********
ok thanks for clearing that up.. appreciated
Kool *******
@Will *****
this is the easiest way. Make an appointment at the Thai consulate in savannakhet Laos first thing. Then you should already have the rest of the documents on this list, under visa type on the website. You'll get your 90 day type O entry visa, then extend it in Thailand for the year after your money is seasoned again for at least two months. You started over just like before. It works best if your wife is with you, but not required for this part.

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Marc *********
Thai Visa Centre BKK give them a call or message
Will ******
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Marc ********
thanks will do.
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