Is it possible to leave Thailand after completing a 3-month cooking class on a DTV and still re-enter under the 5-year visa?

Aug 9, 2024
4 months ago
Bob **********
ORIGINAL POSTER
Question if you book a 3 month cooking class for the DTV you complete the course leave and re enter with nothing booked are you still allowed entry for the 5 years TIA
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The conversation discusses the implications of completing a 3-month cooking class on a Digital Visa (DTV) and whether individuals can re-enter Thailand under the 5-year visa rule after leaving without booking further classes. Comments reveal skepticism about visa regulations and highlight the difference in criteria between the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Thai Immigration officials. There is uncertainty regarding the future of visa extensions, especially with concerns about potential abuses of the system. Several users express a need for clarity regarding entry requirements, such as financial proof at immigration checkpoints, and commentary about the administration of the visa rules.
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Henrik *****
That’s what the graphic tells, if it is to good to be true, then be aware, that may not be the way it will be administered.

Nobody will know until about 6 month from now.
Alex *******
Where and how you can apply for cooking class?
William ******
Think we need a DTV group. This has a lot of interest. I assume 3 day cooking class doesn’t get you visa. But I could be wrong. Let me know if anyone gets a visa with 3 day classes. 6 month classes are not cheap either Muay Thai or cooking. We are only one month into this new visa. Nobody has posted leaving and returning experience. I read (which can be wrong 90% of the time). The immigration officer at airport can ask for proof of money in bank to get visa exempt stamp. I am sure not very often if true because would slow down the processing at airport. But like someone said the embassy and IO are not always on same page. But how much information is in the computer for IO to review. I would guess not the company you work for. But if requirement is 500,000 they could ask to see that every time. But based on the interview by Chris it didn’t appear likely. But that interview seemed to good to be true. I am sure there will be changes because this is one of the easiest visa in Thailand and could be higher abuse levels. I am truly surprised they did 5 years and not one or two. Seems like retirement visa should be 5 years. They already have 90 day check in so all they do is look to see if you have
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0baht. I am sure they could make a system to have bank report any accounts dropping below acceptable level and then email visa holders.
Chris *******
Yes, once this visa is issued, it is a 5 year multientry visa regardless of the length of the program you are approved for.

The idea would be to encourage you to return again over the 5 yrs.

The only exception is that if you intend to do an incountry extension, you will have to qualify again for finances and possibly courses, (that is unseen yet).

As well as the extension fee of 10k.

It would make no sense to extend in country, just leave and reenter requires nothing.

If you qualify get it NOW before they tighten the qualifications.
Nongnuch ********
@Chris ******
may I beg to differ. I have read something completely different recently
Chris *******
@Nongnuch *******
that is the embassies qualifications and has nothing to do with immigration and the Visa once it is approved.

The embassy give the approval based on their own rules.

Thai immigration follows the specs of the visa duration and entry single or multiple etc.

2 different things.

** as stated the only time further qualifications will be needed is if you try and do an extension in country,** otherwise the multientry is just that.
Declan **********
@Chris ******
I've been informed by reliable immigration officers I know that they have been informed to check both finances and appointments on reentry not just when someone is applying for an extension
Stephan ***********
@Chris ******
So... one doctor's appointment or a 3 day cooking class for the application and after that every 6 month a border bounce would do the trick for 5 years? No further need to fulfill the initial requirements? Hard to believe... 🤔🙄
Bob **********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Stephan **********
I’ll believe it when I see it 😎😎😎
Chris *******
@Stephan **********
in theory if you find an embassy that will approve it.
Bob **********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Chris ******
Embassies can approve a visa but it’s up to Thai immigration to let you in
Damo ***********
@Stephan **********
exactly.. it is a rort which will be abused by many cheap charlies to stay in Thailand. Forget about the 5 year Elite Visa, get the DTV haha.
Pete *******
@Chris ******
the extension fee is not 10k. To extend the fee is 1900 baht.
Declan **********
Arguing about the extension fee is a waste of time. Firstly, the first application for extension is about 5 months away; secondly, there is a lot of misinformation and unknowns surrounding it; Thirdly, I and many suspect there will be huge changes over the next 6 months - 1 year regarding the DTV
Stephan ***********
@Pete ******
Some say this, some say that... time will tell...
Chris *******
@Pete ******
the extension fee for the DTV is 10k for 6 more months.

It is an anomaly in it's fee and will require fund proof again etc.
Pete *******
@Chris ******
nope, the DTV extension fee is 1900 baht. Same as any other visa extension.
Bob **********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Pete ******
your stamped in for 180 days aren’t you? So my point is I don’t think anyone has tried to extend a DTV
Brian ********
@Pete ******
for every source that says 1900 baht, there is another that says 10,000. The 1900 baht is based on one interview where the officer said "I believe every extension is 1900 baht". Now everyone knew before that that the DTV was announced at 10,000 baht. The interviewer used the words "I believe" which shows he wasn't sure and then quoted the price for every other extension. Now I could be wrong, but I wouldn't bet on it. Time will tell, though. If I was going to get one I'd keep the 10,000 baht mindset just to be sure.
Chris *******
Strangley so far yes, if you get the embassy approval for it.

I strongly feel that there is no way it will last in its current configuration.

But that is only an opinion.
Chris *******
@Pete ******
please provide your source?
Nongnuch ********
@Chris ******
the extension fee is 1900.- THB
Pete *******
@Chris ******
Interview with the Deputy Director-General of the Consular Department, Thai Ministry of Foreign Affairs

Video blogger Chris Parker (Retired Working For You or RW4U) conducted an interview on YouTube with Mr. Naruchai Ninnad, Deputy Director-General of the Consular Department of the Thai Ministry of Foreign Affairs, regarding the DTV.

He specifically mentions DTV extensions are the same price as any other visa extension. 1900 baht.
Chris *******
@Pete ******
I have been through the immigration training on this visa myself.

Its current configuration is as stated.

I personally believe this visa will change drastically in configuration, Qualifications and implementation in the coming months, but that is an opinion only.

Get it now is my advice to all.
Brian ********
@Pete ******
if you listen closely, he said "I believe". And he was incorrect. The fee for a 180 day extension is 10,000 baht.
Pete *******
Brian ********
@Pete ******
and I didn't include a source because for every source that says 10,000 baht there is one that says 1900 baht and the official site doesn't mention the cost at all. So it really is up in the air, I suppose.
Brian ********
@Pete ******
everyone agreed that it was 10,000 baht until that interview. Now, there is conflicting information as to whether the 10,000 baht cost for extension still stands. I see no reason a single interview with the words "I believe" changed the rule. I suppose we shall see the first time someone goes to extend.
Pete *******
@Brian *******
“Everyone” is not an official source. A minster from the MFA is. Meanwhile there are plenty of unofficial websites all stating 1900 baht extension fees which kind of dispels your claim that everyone prior to interview thought that it was 10k. In any event you are right we will have to wait until Immigration publish their DTV extension requirements.
Nongnuch ********
@Brian *******
the extension fee is 1900.- THB
Chris *******
@Nongnuch *******
I asked this question directly from high ranking officers providing training on the DTV.

It is indeed 10k at this time, as always subject to change in Thailand.
Nongnuch ********
@Chris ******
I thought this question was sufficiently answered in the interview of the deputy minisiter of the MfA given a week ago. He expressively stated "1900.- THB extension fee"
Brandon ************
@Nongnuch *******
but the MFA doesn't do extensions
Erik *******
Nobody knows for sure yet. But very unlikely. It’s not logical. It would look like a visa abuse. Folks struggle to understand this : people who advertise and grant you the visa are from MFA (ministry of foreign affairs) , people who let you in and extend your visa are from Thai Immigration, which belongs to Royal Thai police. And there are often more than dissonances between these 2 …
Erik *******
@Chris ******
You forgot one important thing: This Is Thailand (TIT) and they can do whatever they want, even if it’s a first. This visa is a first as well anyway.

Moreover I wrote about this earlier because I got the exact same info from a reliable source 👇🏼
Lena *******
Well, logically, does the immigration officer know that? Seems to be some dissonance between the embassies and the people who actually let you in.
Erik *******
@Lena ******
Everything related to your visa is stored in the immigration computer under your name. Besides your extended history of stays, visa history etc… That’s the computer you see in front of every IO (immigration officer) at the airport for example.
John ********
@Erik ******
Well logically how long does it take to learn how to cook Thai food? So your first entry gives you ,180 days. You can then go to immigration and get a 180 day extension. Then you have to leave for five days. Then you can enter again and start the process all over again. South East Asian cuisine is mostly wok cooking, which is fairly simplicity in itself I'd of thought. So I reckon if you can't learn how to cook most Thai dishes in your first 180 days, try another type of education.
Erik ***********
@John *******
Oh, the bliss of sweet ignorance! Don´t mean to be rude, but basic formal education for a Thai-born chef is at the least three years. My wife only has the basics from Thai vocational college, but she can still smell if the paste has been added before the coconut cream (or the other way around, I tend to forget). Try teaching that or how long different herbs should be pound to get the correct chemical processes to a farang. My guess is that the horticultural practices and more might take a wee bit more than 180 days. Bon apetite!
John ********
@Erik **********
sorry if you think I'm ignorant. When I used to eat at many street Lockup places, they had numerous dishes on the menus and without getting into the intracasies of Michelin 5* to apply for the DTV visa why would you want to take up years of learning. Just basic Thai dishes is sufficient.
Lena *******
@Erik ******
Silly me. Forgot that useful piece of info.
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