What Will Happen to the DTV in Thailand After Five Years?

Sep 20, 2024
2 months ago
Janelle *****
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Any word on what happens after the 5 years on DTV? So far it appears it’s renewable again. But what if that changes and you’ve built your life in Thailand kinda thing?
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The Digital Nomad Visa (DTV) in Thailand is not a renewable visa but rather requires a new application after the initial 5-year period. Users express concerns about building a life in Thailand if visa rules change, emphasizing the uncertainty surrounding long-term stays in Thailand. The conversation highlights how the DTV functions more as a workcation or tourist visa rather than a pathway to permanent residency or immigration, with advice to keep options open in other countries due to fluctuating immigration laws.
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Agustin ***********
You could save money and get the Thai elite visa.
Janelle *****
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@Agustin **********
ya but I’m not gonna spend $60k on something that doesn’t give you permanent residency
Rober *******
@Agustin **********
how does Elite save money over DTV?
Ivan ************
@Ro***
it doesn't save money, it's much more expensive. But it does give you up to 20 years security of tenure, or even 30 years or life if you find a second hand one. Up to individual if they feel it's worth spending what is a lot more money to get that, but you do can over 5 years, that's the point.
Rober *******
@Ivan ***********
well I know the relative prices so I was checking on his claim about saving money somehow.
Ivan ************
@Ro***
I read it as him saying you could save money as in, save up the money and then buy Elite. Not that you pay less for it.
Rober *******
@Ivan ***********
lol, actually yes that interpretation does make sense. But - the OP didn't mention cost was an issue, so the comment could've been simply to get the Elite. Anyway.
Barrie *********
It depends if the Officer wakes up GRUMPY???
Jo **********
you gots to get more visa then
Chris ******
The visas are built on uncertainty . Having a villa,wife and dog will count to nothing when immigration check you out at the airport on re-entry. You should be ok ,But!!!
Brandon ************
@Chris *****
why would a having a villa (it's not legal for foreigners to own land) or a dog mean anything to immigration? Their job is to enforce the laws of Thailand, not to find a way to let you in?
Janelle *****
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Pete ********
People barely know what’s happening tomorrow and your asking 5 years down the line ?

Don’t jump ahead too much
Janelle *****
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@Pete *******
facts lol
Barrie *********
Uncertainty on Visas
Barrie *********
That's why I left after 4 years
Manuel *********
Pretty easy if you want to live in Thailand you get the long term visa that’s available at that time. The DTV was pitched as a workcation never as an immigrant visa
Todd *********
@Manuel ********
that’s how it was pitched. However… it’s basically a 5 year residency visa with incredibly low requirements. And dirt cheap
Manuel *********
@Todd ********
it’s still not a resident visa. If op wants to be an immigrant not a tourist. He/ she should get the immigrant visa 😁 a lot of people report you can’t even open a Bank account on it without agents help
Todd *********
@Manuel ********
it’s not. But it functions as one. And getting an actual immigrant or residency visa to Thailand is a major endeavour. The best option is LTR, DTV or elite. All of which allow full time residency
Manuel *********
@Todd ********
and still all of the 3 are tourist visa 😁 non of the 3 open you the route for PR requirements. Believe me I’m shocked how often I need to show my WP to get a simple service. The struggle with that on a TR going to be annoying as hell
Todd *********
@Manuel ********
and yet you are mistaken. The words LTR stands for are a bit of a giveaway. Long term residency. Not long term tourism. And so far, haven’t had to show it for anything in the first two years. I doubt Thailand will ever open a gateway to easy PR or citizenship which is a smarter move than western countries are making.
Graham ******
@Manuel ********
Correct, it's a type of tourist visa
Jet ********
Some countries are just getting crazy they’re asking for US$50,000 deposited bank account and some countries are asking more than US$100,000 deposited into a bank account that is not guarantee so if the country suffers they can simply take your money with no recourse
Keil ******
@Jet *******
its so hard to make 100k it takes me 10 years
Jet ********
@Keil *****
$100,000 is a lot of money to risk at least for me
Janelle *****
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@Jet *******
yup Japan getting like that however they do guarantee permanent residency within 1 year if you qualify
Jet ********
@Janelle ****
yeah and then they’ll change the qualifications possibly they are making it tougher I used to live in Japan. They are making it much tougher for foreigners to reside there because they really don’t want us there.
Joseph ****
@Jet *******
That's incorrect. There are more foreign workers in Japan than ever. And that's not counting the illegal workers who went there on a tourist visa for the purpose of finding work. Immigration there knows this but they know small and medium companies there are starved for labor so they look the other way. Same in Korea.
Andi ***********
@Joseph ***
Yeah lots of farms, rural firms desperate for workers. Care homes too.
Joseph ****
@Andi **********
Yep. And all hotels, restaurants. Even many of the combini's in Tokyo are staffed by South and Southeast Asians, these days.
Andi ***********
@Jet *******
I have lived in Tokyo 15+yrs and it is easier to live there as a foreigner, than ever before, I think. Lots more foreigners have their own business in Japan and the range of jobs available to foreigners is the most it's ever been. Renting an apartment is not that hard anymore. The visa regulations for long term stays have relaxed. The Japan digi nomad visa though is very, very difficult to obtain unlike in Thailand.
Joseph ****
@Andi **********
You beat me to it. You're correct.
Janelle *****
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@Jet *******
that’s what I feared too, and even if you did such things , you still can’t easily rent a place . Funny you can buy one for $1 but forget about living in it 😂
Jet ********
Build your life somewhere else that’s why personally I still live in BKK, but I kept a property in the United States just in case a very small studio condo because countries like Thailand, the Philippines everywhere else except America and Canada change their palsies as often as you can change your socksso basically they always increase fees. They make it more difficult the more popular the country gets.
Christopher *******
@Jet *******
well said, me too.
Andy **********
@Jet *******
LOL. So you don't live in a country where your leaders don't consider foreigners to be thugs and criminals, and there wasn't flip flopping with Muslim bans, accusing foreigners if eating cats and dogs.
Jet ********
@Andy *********
no I do not. I live in Thailand, six months out of a year and then six months out of the year I live in either Paris or back in the United States. I have properties in both countries actually all three countries.
Andy **********
@Jet *******
The US constantly reviews immigration practices. Just a day ago, Canada announced changes to cut work permits by 30% this year and 10% in successive years. A lot of the time immigration rules are driven by reciprocity, and the US drives a lot of this. But 2 out of 3 countries you named have political climates that are generally anti-immigration, and that's driving legislative changes. You are surely aware of the recent fallout of the French elections, plus upcoming US elections where it's looking increasingly likely the challenger will win the electoral college vote. All these things will drive churn in legislation that you claim has hardly changed.
Janelle *****
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@Jet *******
so you bought a small studio in the usa just in case, and what does it do now? You renting it out or?
Jet ********
@Janelle ****
plus I leave a vehicle there for my friends and my son to use
Janelle *****
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@Jet *******
wow you are super generous. Love that !!
Jet ********
@Janelle ****
plus I still have assets in the United States so I use it once in a while. I think my son uses it more than my friends he likes the United States. He likes to come visit their often.
Jet ********
@Janelle ****
no I don’t rent it out. I let my friends use it. I have friends all over the world so I just let my friends come use it when they need a place to stay in the United States.
Todd *********
You start from scratch and re-apply with whatever the rules are then. There are never any guarantees with visas in thailand and permanent residency/citizenship are very difficult to get.
Janelle *****
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@Todd ********
yup seems that way. Will get my Vietnamese passport then just in case lol
Cary ******
Don’t think it’s really meant for you to live in Thailand.
Janelle *****
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@Cary *****
that’s what I think too
Brandon ************
There's no such thing as a visa "renewal."

The DTV is no different from any other non-extendable visa. When yours ends, if the DTV still exists, you can apply for a new one. It's a brand new application for a brand new visa. Nothing being renewed.
Janelle *****
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@Brandon ***********
right ok that’s what I meant then
Neil ******
@Janelle ****
nobody knows yet what will happen with anything in 5 years. The government could stop issuing new DTV visas. Nobody knows.
Janelle *****
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@Neil *****
very true
Neil ******
@Janelle ****
if you want to live here long term you either buy Elite or find a way to be eligible for a non-immigrant visa. Personally, I wouldn’t trust this DTV for the long haul, but that’s just me. I have a non-immigrant visa.
Janelle *****
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@Neil *****
I am trying to get talent representation for a performers O visa
Neil ******
@Janelle ****
are you an American musician? Do you have representation?
Janelle *****
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@Neil *****
I’ve been on Dan Nguyen podcast so cool you know him!
Neil ******
@Janelle ****
Dan and I are friends.
Janelle *****
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@Neil *****
same!!!!! known him a few years
Janelle *****
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@Neil *****
yes and actress. No currently no representation in Asia. I am looking for that
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