Is a TM30 still required for extending a tourist visa in Pattaya, and can one night in a hotel suffice for it?

Mar 31, 2024
7 months ago
Latasha ********
ORIGINAL POSTER
Does Pattaya still require a TM30 to extend tourist visa. Also is 1 night in hotel ok to get the TM30 as my current accomodation will not do a TM30 for our stay thanks
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The conversation confirms that a TM30 is still required for visa extensions at Jomtien immigration in Pattaya. It is mentioned that even if a hotel does not provide a TM30 registration, one can submit a personal TM30 registration by using a written confirmation letter from the hotel as proof of stay. Recommendations are made for using visa agents in the area to simplify the extension process.
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Diana ********
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Latasha ********
ORIGINAL POSTER
Bob **********
Yes
John *******
I didn’t get a letter from condo owner he just said he’s done the tm30 when I got 30 day extension all went smoothly so it was done and all good
Andy **********
Visa agents in Pattaya, will get you a 30 day tourism extension, they will do everything for you, save yourself a headache, just give them ฿4000 and your passport, everything included.
Andy **********
I did read it, they state they are unable to obtain a TM30, it's cheaper and less hassle to just get an agent to do it for them in these circumstances, like I said at a total cost of ฿4000 including the immigration fee, so you suggest again!! to pay the ฿1600 fine + ฿1900 immigration extension fee + ฿360/$10 (good luck finding a hotel in Pattaya for ฿360/$10) let's assume they wouldn't stay in a ฿360/$10 room. You keep saying he, it seems to be a woman that did the post, not that it matters, but anyway, Your advice is not good and not tailored to this person's situation.
Marc ********
@Andy *********
That's why just rent a room for 10USD a night and get the tm30 online.

Print it out by the office at immigration
Henrik *****
Take control of your life, why pay more than double, for something you easy can do yourself, done it once, and you can do it at no time, instrad of keep paying others to do it.
Shane ************
@Henrik ****
because 4000thb is nothing when compared to more beach time unless you're broke like most of the guys on here
Andy **********
@Henrik ****
easy to do it yourself?? How many 30 day extensions have you done?? And most importantly, at which immigration offices?? Some offices in the tourist destinations make it a very difficult and a frustratingly long process, even tho you have all your documents in order, in this instance, I suggested using an agent because jomtien is one of them offices, that will have you there for hours and hours doing it yourself, and also there will possibly be a fine to pay at jomtien, if the filing of a TM30 is late.
Marc ********
@Andy *********
I did it myself yesterday before. Jomtien. It is so easy. You can pay 200b and they fill out the form for you. Make copies, foto everything. Outside immigration. All you need is TM30 form.

Paying 4000b is nonsense
Andy **********
@Marc *******
you are missing the point!! they don't have a TM30, I'm aware it's not difficult to get the documents together "if you have got everything" I have done it myself a few times, at the jomtien office, every time I've been there, they just send you from one desk to another, and it's packed out with people, telling you to sit down and wait, it's always takes hours and hours!! it's more frustrating and very time consuming than anything else, in this particular post the person cannot get a TM30 from there landlord, jomtien immigration I'm told now issue fines for late filing, in this instance I suggested using an agent at cost of ฿4000 all done, because if they try and do it themselves, they will likely get a fine of ฿1600 + ฿1900 immigration fee for the extension, they even mentioned staying one night in a hotel to get a TM30 that is further expense.
Marc ********
@Andy *********
He can check in a hotel and get the form. It really does not take long anymore.

I just did it 2 days ago.

Idk how many years ago you did it.

But it is not very time consuming now to make it worth paying 4000b

For Covid-Extentions yes it was worth it.

But not regular extentions
Andy **********
@Marc *******
I did it recently myself!! what do you not understand?? So your solution is to check in a hotel at around ฿700 is about the cheapest at the moment in Pattaya + ฿1600 late filing fine, + ฿1900 immigration extension fee, and hours and hours sat in the immigration office waiting, you obviously don't understand what I have tried to explain more than once, about this person's situation, or my solution is just pay an agent ฿2100 + ฿1900 immigration fee, your solution total cost= ฿4200, my solution and 5 mins in immigration ฿4000, do the maths and the time involved 🤷🙆🤦
Marc ********
@Andy *********
You did not read the post carefully. He just asks if he needs tm30.

The answer is yes

Your advise paying 4000b fee for agent only you don't have to show a tm30 form which is very easy to get.

Is absolute nonsense BS

10USD for another hotel booking

Or you just pay the fine at immigration for landlord for failing to register you.

About 1500b
Dovdov *********
@Marc *******
its different for everyone depending on if you have 3 hours to loose or not
Andy **********
@Dovdov ********
the first time I did an extension in the jomtien immigration, it took 4+ hours, because of all the messing around, and plus I didn't know they close for an hour for dinner time 12:00 till 13:00 😅
Marc ********
@Dovdov ********
If they take your passport and tell you to come back next day... even better.

Then you only spend about 15 Minutes
Marc ********
@Dovdov ********
It's same for everybody.

They give you appointment now. It was not more than 1.5 hours.

1.5 hours for 4000b I will even work in my own country for that money
Jan ******************
You’ll need a TM.30 for extension at Jomtien immigration. My hotel didn’t give me a screenshot of their TM.30 registration, just a written letter confirming my stay and I did the TM.30 myself and just attached their letter. The responsibility for a TM.30 is as we know the landlord and I think the immigrations are aware of not everyone fulfils their responsibility.
Darin ********
@Jan *****************
it is not your responsibility to report TM30 if you stay in accommodation with landlord, he will be fined for not filing on your behalf. If they refuse report then at immigration
Frances ********
@Darin *******
I wish I had turned in our slimey ABnb host. 🤬
Darin ********
They try not to do TM30 to avoid taxes
Jan ******************
@Darin *******
As said, the issue is when the landlord doesn’t fulfill his responsibility. And I was just referring to my own experience at hotels and TM.30 for extension.
Darin ********
@Jan *****************
as l said if the landlord doesn’t do TM30 it’s his problem, you just show proof of rent payments and he will be fined
Andy **********
@Darin *******
there are many cases where the landlord wouldn't do a TM30, and also will not go to the immigration to sort it out, so then you're on your own, the tenant then goes to the immigration office to explain, sometimes the immigration officer will ring the landlord, that's if they answer the phone, and tell in future they need to do a TM30, the officer then explained that unless YOU!! pay the late filing fine, you won't be getting the extension that you need, that is the reality of it, so you can't just say it's the landlord's problem like you're saying, because they put it back on you.
Latasha ********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Jan *****************
ok did you just stay the 1 night or does it need to be more than 1 night to get TM30
Andy **********
@Latasha *******
if you go to jomtien immigration, to do a 30 day tourist extension, and you don't have a current TM30 in the system, some people have reported getting a fine, ฿1600 fine + ฿1900 immigration extension fee, and hours and hours waiting, that's why I've suggested just pay an agent ฿4000 everything included to do it for you.
Frances ********
@Andy *********
absolutely!!! That’s what we did. Save time, hassle. Agent happy, immigration happy, I’m happy.
Henrik *****
If you only stay 1 night, and then go stay somewhere else, then the 2 place you stay also have to do TM30.

Everytime you change room, the new room have to do TM30
Sue **********
@Jan *****************
Can you please explain how you can do the TM30 yourself if the Landlord of your house doesn‘t do it every time you come back after a holiday in another province? Thx
Jan ******************
@Sue *********
@Latasha *******
I’m not so familiar with this as I’ve just stayed in hotels myself, but I’ve read that some people have contacted the immigration and the immigration again has told the landlord that they are responsible for the TM.30’s. Latasha I stayed several nights at the hotel, but I know people have just booked in for shorter time to fix the formal TM.30 registration.
Latasha ********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Jan *****************
thankyou for your feedback
Sue **********
@Jan *****************
But you wrote you did the TM30 yourself, how did you do that? Online?
Marc ********
@Sue *********
You can do it behalf your landlord. And they have to sign documents aswell but in the future you can always register yourself by going to immigration.

Once you are in the system for them to see
Andy **********
@Sue *********
I've seen people post that you can do the TM30 yourself online, but I think you need documents from your landlord such as Thai ID, and chanote or house book, I'll send you the link from another post (just check it looks legit, I've never used it myself, it's just what someone else posted)
Jan ******************
@Sue *********
No, I got the letter from the hotel downloaded the TM.30, filled it out and attached the letter from the hotel together with the regular TM.7.
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Christopher *************
John **********
@Chris******
not BS. Do via app
Andy **********
@Sue *********
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Christopher *************
@Sue *********
you can't do the TM 30 yourself , legally otherwise the immigration system would be completely compromised. Its the duty of the landlord or hotel , if they fail and grt reported its 4000 baht fine. If they stoll refuse go to the police they will make them do it differently
John **********
@Chris******
can do on behalf of Landlord.
Andy **********
@Christopher ************
I've seen people post on here, that have got difficult landlords that won't do a TM30, they have said they do it themselves, but you do need your landlord's cooperation by supplying the relevance documents.
Jan ******************
@Christopher ************
The hotels do routinely online registration of the TM.30 immediately when check in. Some hotels give you a screenshot of their registration , some just a confirming letter you can attach the TM.30 and TM.7 yourself at the immigration as explained.
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