Well, BKK Bank finally got around to my account. Frozen and closed.
Anyone find an agent that can make an account happen on a DTV?
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A user reported that their account with BKK Bank was frozen and closed, and they are seeking information on how to open a bank account while on a Digital Nomad Visa (DTV). Several comments indicate that it is currently difficult to open bank accounts with a DTV, and many recommend switching to a different type of visa, such as a non-immigrant visa, marriage visa, or retirement visa, which may allow for account access. The community discusses the challenges faced by expats with frozen accounts and the implications of visa types on banking in Thailand.
I can see why they do it but they should give someone two weeks to get their money out or close the account or get it validated. Just closing it is not a good thing
they don't just close it. They freeze it and you have to go in and show your visa and identity to unfreeze it. If you no longer qualify then they close it.
I have a BBK account I opened it a couple of years ago on a tourist visa. I paid into it & bought a condo. I don’t know if my account has been frozen until I get back to Thailand. I’ve been told that owning a condo is helpful for the account
I'm in the same situation, I won't be arriving until November. I also see my balance in the app, but it won't let me make transfers. I'm sure your app is also crashing and frozen. Try making an international transfer from your bangkok bank to your European bank. I was able to do so in May, but now it shows an error, but the app works perfectly visually. Do you know of any cases with a tourist visa and property that maintain his bank account?
I transferred from Wise 1,000 euros 4 days ago, despite having the account frozen. They went into the Thai account, and the app marks the sum as the total balance in THB. Some resident friends confirm the total refund of the account before closing it within a week to a month at most. So I'm not worried about getting that money back; it's confirmed that it will come back to me. My concern is the irreversible closure of the account, due to the expenses involved in having a domiciled condominium and now without a bank account?
I always own a condo, but I’ve heard that it goes in your favour for the account. K I’m going to visit the bank with my original paperwork & see what happens
It's as if they'd put a chimpanzee in the Economics Department.
We'll inevitably see a drop in condominium purchases and foreign real estate investment in Thailand over the next few years.
Who's going to buy a condo in a country that requires you to transfer funds to who knows where without having access to a bank account, unless you're over 50, or marry a local, or are rich??? I'll confirm you n November.
I have DTV and own a condo in my name, my account was frozen for 7 days only and opened as I said after 7 days.that was back in first week of June. My fingers are still crossed it continues
I’d have been a bit wary of doing that way. I’m glad it worked out for you. My mate lost a lot of money on a new development in Pattaya about 15 years ago
There was no other way, I think that has never changed. Foreign quota within the complex, the funds had to arrive from overseas. Even if, somehow, I had a Thai bank account and milions of baht in it, the transfer would not show as foreign funds transfer. Invalid.
that’s correct. I had been transferring money from wise to my account & it came up as a local transaction,because wise use a Thai bank. But I learned that when transferring money into wise you should state that it’s for property purchase it takes longer but goes through as a foreign transaction 👍
Wise does transactions within Thai through Kasikorn bank. From Kasikorn to anywhere within Thai (even within Kasikorn if your account is with them) it is a local Internet transfer. Whether you ask Wise to request Kasikorn to label it as FTT (Foreign Funds Transfer) or you call Kasikorn to adjust the code to FTT.
when I bought my condo I had a sum of money in my BKK account transferred from wise. But I didn’t put it down for property purchase, so it went through as a local transaction. I went to the BKK BANK & they didn’t want to know. I told them that it was an international transaction but they were no help. I then transferred stating that it was for property purchase & it went through with the right code
I bought a condo in 2008 (as nobody, as a tourist), the developer did not want to talk about sending the funds to my Thai wife's account and then to them. Had to be an one off transfer from my overseas account into their (the developer's) account. There was a specific purpose for the transfer, with exact address and land title. No way to send the money to an account of an individual (even if it was, somehow, my own) and then to the developer.
I inquired about that. The agent checked and said there is a deed showing the purchase was with foreign funds, stating the currency, amount and date.
The money from condo sale would just go into any out of Thai account I want or into my Thai account.
Anyway, the condo stays forever. When I crap out becomes my wife and daughter property, both Thai nationals, Blue book. (but not living in Thai full time).
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Owning a condo is helpful for one of the docs they'll ask for. If you don't have the right visa though...
wrong. I was at the branch today to close mine and it was filled with people who were in the same situation. None received any notice from the bank whatsoever. And, all, like myself had access to their banking app.
When you opened the internet application and the account was blocked, didn't you receive any warning? For example, a month ago I received a notification to sign the new Bank regulations. Until I signed this online, I couldn't use the application.
you can find out. Try to make any movement. Like buy some DTAC data or try to send money to someone.
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Can you survive on a DTV with out a bank ? Whats the reasons you need ? (Curious as im hoping to be on DTV aswell ) its all a bit nerve racking , but at least they have visa requirements, our country could learn a lot from Thailand!! Peace ✌️
The fact I own a condo legally and in foreign totals here and cannot legally open a bank account is about the most backward and idiotic thing imaginable.
Except for all the other idiotic things the Thai government does 🤣
it’s not idiotic on the part of the Thai government. It’s the banks but it’s their choice. It’s a lot less idiotic than the other countries I have lived in. Easy to leave if you don’t like their rules.
they lied to you. I just opened with Kasikorn two days ago on a 90-day non-o. Zero issues because I was on the non-o. I’m not eligible to apply for my extension yet because my funds are days old and need to season for 60 days. You do not need a one-year visa to open an account by law. That’s just Bangkok Bank paying penance for previous misdeeds.
your inability to open an account has nothing to do with the Thai government. Those are bank decisions to limit their liability. There's no law or regulation telling the banks they can't open an account for you.
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Brandon Thurkettle thy did open the account. And yes, there is. The bank rep told me herself that it is now the same at all banks because new regulations from the government distaste that banks can only issue accounts for people with visas valid for a stay of one year or longer at a time.
And, I verified that the account was perfectly legal and eligible at the time I opened it.
the banks say whatever they want to sound correct. Thais do not admit when they are wrong as it would make them look bad which is a huge negative in their society. You can find multiple reports from people who went to their banks and are told straight up lies.
You need a long term visa DTV no longer eligible for bank accounts. Marriage visa / retirement - perm resident visa or the like ed visa qualify if you are attending a 4 year program
Do you know if there is an exception and if it will be possible to unfreeze bank account this November if you own a property with a tourist visa or DTV?
from what I have seen with bank accounts is solely dependant on visa you hold your assets can assist you in getting visa as I mentioned. Marriage visa seems to be the quickest way to get a bank account my understanding it comes with an income requirement like retirement
nope none that I know of owning property has no affect on bank accounts or visa you can own land on visa exempt however owning land does count to a few visas for example the LTR 10 year visa the account for ownership or investment into thai economy but that is for high end earners like in the millions - in thai baht
yes but not all apply sadly like the ed visa depends where your visa is for. If the school or classes you attend are certified for 4 years then it can apply but they are strict with the ed visa as well. Im on ed visa and I been to 4 banks and denied going from june if this year. What I been told by the banks
I recently had to go to Bangkok Bank to verify a long term visa and show a one year lease, or home ownership in order to not have my account frozen. They told me they are closing all accounts that aren't on a long term visa. They said it's complicated and will take time, as just that one branch has over 800 foreign accounts and some of the people on a visa are out of the Country. If you can, you should apply for a long term visa. It's a bit crazy. You need a bank account to get a long term visa, but can't get one unless you have a long term visa. Catch-22. Agents seem to be able to work around this issue. You were lucky to get one on your own.
I've seen that Thailand's banks have made it pretty much impossible to open accounts over maybe the last year when only there as tourists, but what I've heard, is that if you enter the country on a long term Visa, it's not hard to open an account.
no, the DTV, although it's valid for five years, you are required to exit Thailand at least once a year and, I think, is considered a Tourist Visa. I'm not up with all the DTV details, but I believe that proofs of eligibility particularly for 'soft power' options, are required to re-enter. The long term Visas are the Non-O based on being over 50 (retirement), or married to a Thai, LTR Visa and what used to be known as the Elite Visa (now called Privilege Visa, I think)
they’re misspeaking. Most non-o visas are for 90 days, after which you apply for a year-long extension of stay, which people confusingly refer to as a “longterm visa”. Any non-tourist visa that you qualify for will allow you to open a bank account. There is no catch-22 that people keep bringing up. Leave the country, apply for and receive a non-o. Ask whichever bank you want to open with what their requirements are, return with those requirements, and you will have a bank account in your name. It can be tedious, but people do it all the time without issue.
it's not sorted I had to travel from sakon nakhon to pattaya and then back and it's still locked nearly a month since I went,it's been locked 6 weeks 🙉🙉
Sorry; you misunderstand. It's a retorical question. Because you aren't a Thai citizen, or have a proper, non tourist visa, you can not have a bank account in Thailand. Same like in most parts of the civilized world.
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11 December I opened my account
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visa-free entry on December 5th
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😉 You can believe me or not. I just checked the account and it's working. I wanted to take a screenshot to prove it to you, but the app doesn't accept screenshots.
you obviously were lucky to be able to open a Thai Bank Account while in Thailand. It's become increasingly more difficult over the past 12-18 months at least.
You obviously also, have not been keeping up with news about what's been going on in Thailand. Have you heard of the problem with scammers and Scam Centres based just outside Thailand's borders, initially in Myanmar and now moved over into Cambodia? With these scammers, apparently they've been opening Thai bank accounts to 'launder' money scammed from innocent people. Many people were aware of these scammers operating just outside of Thailand, who were secretly going into Thailand and abducting people to work as slaves, after luring them into Thailand under false pretences and also hacking into Thailand's electricity grid to power their Scam Centres.
The Thai Government a few months ago, decided to try and clamp down on these scammers. While they can't do anything outside Thailand's borders, they have been trying to identify these fake accounts and close them down to interrupt the money flow from innocent scammed people going stop scammers from receiving the storm money.
Only the Thai Government would know how many fake accounts have been closed, but in the process many people with Thai bank accounts, Thai people and foreigners have had their bank accounts frozen, some for only a couple of days, some are told a few months, until the account and the account holder are are proven to be genuine. So yes, as you don't live in Thailand and don't have a long term Visa that allows you to live in the country, the chances of your account being frozen or even closed is very high.
I also read the press from Thailand. Only MULE accounts were suspended. My Thai account only receives money from my European account, so no stress with the problems you reported.
suspended/frozen is different to being closed. Mule accounts closed - yes. As I said, a lot of innocent people's accounts are being frozen while authorities check that they are genuine or not. Criminals move their stolen money through accounts across the globe to try and avoid authorities knowing who the money is really going to and just because money is going from an account on one continent to an account in another continent doesn't mean it won't be affected.
Yes, there are scam call centers. Yes, they have been luring people into Thailand and shuffling them across the border to Burma and Laos to “work” as scammers. They typically take their passports making it virtually impossible to leave.
Yes, those scammers are using Thai accounts to launder money. The kingpins are all Chinese mostly.
That’s about where the truth ends and the fiction and propaganda start.
The Thai government couldn’t give a shit about slave workers here in Thailand, in Laos, Berma, Cambodia or anywhere else let alone laundering money.
As with almost everything the Thai government does this is a big dog and pony show.
No real kingpins, money launderers or criminals will be affected. No lives will be saved and no difference will be made.
It’s all about showing the authorities and foreign partners what a great job they’re doing by closing accounts that aren’t squeaky clean and properly filed. Except the ones that matter of course.
one of the reasons of why Thailand closed the accounts for DTV or tourists is, some of them on DTV or Tourism, sold it to the scam gangs. They just left Thailand and no need to have this accounts any more. So they just sold it with high price. They do not care of their accounts and scammers used this nicely. yes some of those on DTV or Tourism. But for long term visa holders, who mostly reside in Thailand or make Thailand as home, of course, they really care for their accounts. They must pay bills and rentals, everyday foods and essentials and drinking too.. They must care for their account. That is why they are upset when their accounts were frozen. i was also very upset and this made life hard in Thailand.
yes agreed. even though I have long term visa but my account was frozen twice. Maybe frozen again soon. Frozen and unfrozen and frozen and unfrozen again and again, this may be new life order in Thailand.
the only one I’d qualify for legitimately is a retirement visa and I’m not quite 50 yet. A couple months. And even then I’d rather apply from there than try to figure out this idiotic issue we have now of having to have a bank balance for X months. But not qualifying to have a bank account.
true. I did my application outside the country. 2 trips to the embassy (and 40,000 pieces of fairly easy to obtain paper) and it was done.
Flying in and doing the O after arrival exposes one to a world of silly hassles. Sure, lots of people get thru it but many use an agent, why have that cost at all?
you just have to accept it. Once you are 50 it’s easy enough to apply outside, get an account and then get an extension of stay. I don’t think they are stupid - it’s their country, their rules. Same as every other country.
what? Yes I live here and have a Thai wife. If you think a valid suggestion to someone asking about a bank account with a DTV is ‘most people can apply for another visa’ when that is unhelpful and factually incorrect, then I can’t help you. Offer some help and advice if you can. Only one nasty person here with nothing better to do.
I didnt call you nasty. I said you seem to be nasty. And there was nothing to call out. They gave another option on how to qualify for a bank account. Stop being a bully Mr
“I didn’t call you nasty, I said you seem nasty” 🤣🤣. So tell me Ryan, exactly what was their suggestion? They said anyone can qualify for another visa. Just like that. If you live here, which you clearly don’t, you would know that is not true. You do you mate. Why don’t you offer some help or advice to the OP instead of trolling. Pathetic.