How can an Australian citizen with a Thai mother obtain a Thai passport?

Aug 19, 2020
4 years ago
Melissa *******
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Hi. I’m Australian and my mother is Thai. How can I get a Thai passport?
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An Australian citizen whose mother is Thai can obtain a Thai passport by proving their Thai descent. The first step is to acquire a Thai birth certificate, which involves contacting the Thai embassy for specific documentation needed, including proof of the mother's Thai nationality. The process can be complicated, especially without proper documentation from the mother, who has been living in Australia. It is suggested to have a relative present in Thailand during the application process for assistance. Once the necessary documents are gathered and validated—a Thai ID card can be issued, followed by the passport application. Seeking legal assistance and ensuring the completion of paperwork at designated Thai government offices is advisable to navigate potential challenges.
Geoff *********
There is a Bangkok Bank in NY which is a commercial branch.
Tammy ******
What bank in USA 🇺🇸 can connect to Thai Branch ?
Daniel *********
Khaosan road
Fred *********
Matthew *******
Contact the Thai consulate closet to where you live
Tomnoi *********
I think mum and you with DNA go to Thai embassy
Gordy *****
Wow ! Some very nasty toxic people on this ! Shocking ! Just be kind !!!!
Sumai ********
Let’s cut through the bullshit. The only way if your mum is not documented as you say is she needs to be in Thailand and will need a family member to vouch for her plus be registered on the house address. A birth certificate helps. Once those things are establish birth certificate , house registration and family members to be present with her at the Amphoe. You will fill in a shit ton of paper work and if she has Australian citizenship that must also be translated into Thai as also her marriage certificate. This is just to establish you for a Thai ID card they will notify you when to go back it can take a few months it depends. Once you have your Thai ID you can then a month later apply for your Thai passport.(has nothing to do with immigration)

I went through this in 2013 to have my Thai citizenship reinstated having lived in Australia as an Australian citizen for 40 years. Now I have dual citizenship.

Oops .. as long as your mothers name is registered on your birth certificate and she can prove who she is in Thailand with family members to help her.

You will need your Australian citizenship & birth certificate translated and be present at the Amphoe where this is all done . They are the ones who determine if they will issue you a Thai ID based on the documents you are requested to submit. It takes patients believe me and if you want it fast an envelope helps 😉
Zed ********
Wow. This group used to be helpful. A respite from the other visa group. Good luck Melissa..
Johnny ******
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Nina *********
Hi! I did this but from america which should be the same. You first have to file for Thai birth certificate. The thai embassy tells you what documents you need from both your parents. I had to lcall into the Thai embassy in LA, which answered my call yesterday about another question, so if you want call that one. However, you local one may ask for something slightly different. Also, they give you forms to fill out. There are more work if your parents were not married and you use your dads last name. He must write a letter saying he allows you to use his last name.

-thai birth certificate form

-your birth certificate

-parents ID

-thai parents thai ID, i forget if passport is ok

-your ID

Then when you get this, you can apply for thai passport. Then when in Thailand, you can apply for Thai ID which requires your thai parent to register you into a house (tabien baan). Thai parent has to be present. If already passed, they accept dealth certificate. Or 2 siblings can come and verify. This was the hardest part for me. But you dont need Thai ID if you dont plan on working or buying house here. If you just want the passport, you dont need this.
Re ****
I have no intention of attacking you personally. I'm a adult woman and I'm capable of criticism and I wish very much that I knew about everything. I don't want to write anything more about it except that you might read it yourself before posting it. All the best!
Re ****
@Nina ********
The way I read it, she's mixed. Mum thai father australian. Those are very different conditions.
Nina *********
Only one parent needs to be thai
Re ****
@Nina ********
I guess that's the assumption when she asks a question like that
Nina *********
@Eu *****
it should be the same info, doesnt matter if ur mixed.
Re ****
@Nina ********
That's not true. You give a lot of misinformation. As an example with the house registration... both parents have to be present total nonsense. She can register with anyone who gives her permission.
Nina *********
@Eu *****
i didnt use both parents for tabien baan and i didnt say u did. To first register a thai citizen into a home, usually they need the mother to register first into any home. Its way easier as a baby, im assuming OP is not a baby. However, i dont know why you think you're the only one who knows anything. Ive seen you replying to others. That was your experience, that was mine. Dont know of you know but thai embassies and kades dont always require the same thing. OP asked for help, i gave her mt experience. She did not provide full info on her post and i did not feel the need to read other comments or responses. I replied to what was written, but your first response made me want to read others and i saw many that were similar to mine. I didnt think your comment matched her but im not the OP, so maybe it did. So, i minded my own business, offered what happened to me, and let OP decide. Which you should as well. Not everyone has the exact same experience.

Also while reading through some, seems the problem is thai mom doesnt have some thai papers needed to do this which makes my response and some of yours useless as mom needs to get her docs first. OP original post isnt clear. I cant help with her mom docs since i dont have experience with that and if she clarified that we wouldnt have this convo. Responses like yours seem like an attack on someone whos just trying to help, my response is better than those negative comments.
Joel *********
Ask your mum 🤪
Melissa *******
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Re ****
@Melissa ******
It's not hopeless. Your mom can still get a birth certificate at the Australian Embassy for you. It is important that she has the 13 digit identification number, id card or house registry. If you can find that out then it's easy. I went through the same thing. Call the Embassy. Explain your situation. Tell them why it is important for you to get Thai citizenship. They will be happy to help you. If you have any questions... you can send me a pm.
Melissa *******
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@Eu *****
thank you so much.
Moaya **********
It’s not that complicated but it requires you have a copy of your birth certificate , and you need you to present your mother’s “Tabien baan” . You need to do this in Thailand and it should be in the district the Tabien baan belongs to . You should speak thai , but it’s not necessary, you must have a relative that’s listed on the Tabien baan with you if possible and hopefully you were listed on it - if not you will be once the paperwork is issued , you will get a thai citizenship ID card , depending on your age you may have to register for military service , you then can apply for a thai passport - all of this is very quick if you have your paperwork filled out and a family member with you - your papers translated and certified lots of photocopiex etc ... it took my daughter no time at all ...

If you don’t have these things, then it becomes more difficult , and tea money is not in play for this ... you will

Need a thai relative in Thailand to work with you - they must bring all thier papers with them - you mother would need her id and passport too and both you and them need pgotocopies of everything !! And pasport photos .

In bkk the main office is Chaeng Wattana Government complex ... dont bother with agents and just get your number and wait !

There is a wAy to do this with some embassys but i only know the way we did my daughter - who was an adult ...

It was less than 2000 baht and you pick up your passport in two days .. it’s pretty straight forward
Stephen *******
@Moaya *********
You don't need to go to Thailand if you have the right documents here.
Moaya **********
Brian ********
@Moaya *********
Great advice
Joe ******
I thought Adult Thais can't have dual nationality.
Rob ******
@Joe *****
Lots of wealthy thai both USA and Thai passports .
Melissa *******
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Hi guys. Thanks for the advice. The rest of you,

I’m sorry you felt the need to be idiots.

Mums been very sick with cancer. She can’t read or write.

We don’t know how to have her documented as a Thai person. She has no paperwork and has been in Australia since 1963.

Embassy has been reached out to many times over the years but they aren’t easy to navigate. I was hoping to reach out to the wider community for the knowledge. Thanks
RV *************
Sorry to hear it but if you cannot obtain proof that she is a Thai national then you probably won't be able to. Unless you do the full process as if you never had a right of nationality to begin with.
Zed ********
@Melissa ******
it's so sad that you have to even explain that. People should choose to answer with helpful comments or not at all.
Stephen *******
Your mum will need a Thai birth certificate and hopefully a Thai id card. But maybe she never had one. It will be difficult without these 2 things. Good luck.
DustySu **********
Sorry that you are experiencing this difficulty and your mother's sickness. This is hard if there is no documentation. It's a must for Thailand. Any relatives alive? Where was she born? The Ampur must have registered her if she was born in Thailand. Though that's not a given always back then. You'll have to work from creating a proper paper trail.
Melissa *******
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@Du***
she has some. Very selfish ones. Most died. Born in the bush in the 1940’s so o don’t like our chances. I’d fly her Canberra but the border restrictions are super hard right now. I will recontact the consulates office. Thanks
DustySu **********
@Melissa ******
I wish you all the best with this journey. I am in lockdown in Melbourne too, it's hard enough being forcibly relocated to Australia after 40 years and proving who I am. Due to COVID I could not return to Thailand, my home of 30 years, and have lost my long term visa there. Thank goodness I could have my friend in Thailand DHL my paperwork to Australia. Otherwise, I'd be destitute. It's hard proving and then establishing who you are, but one thing I know is persistence is key.
Melissa *******
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@Du***
I’m so sorry that your life’s been turned upside down. I can’t even imagine how hard that all is. Stay strong xxx
DustySu **********
@Melissa ******
yes, trying to make something good out of it all. CLosed down apartment, donated everything to charity in Thailand, had two small boxes sent to me. New life, lighter one at that, awaits. Sad, but okay...cheers Melissa, all the best to you too.
RV *************
Send your birth certificate and mother proof of Thai nationality to your nation's Thai Embassy for a Thai birth certificate registration (If out of country) and then just go to the local Amphor office when in Thailand. Much faster than Doing the whole process in Thailand as they will have to mail paperwork to you country of nationality told me about 3 month for my kids.
Stefan *******
Can have both passports. Go to Thai embassy
Paul *********
@Stefan ******
yep the wife and daughter has uk and Thai
Stefan *******
@Paul ********
my son has German and thai
Re ****
I cannot speak for Australia but I think they are the same requirements.

I grew up in Europe and my children were born in Europe. We all have 2 citizenships and all 2 passports. It has only advantages and it is a mistake to choose one. It is even very difficult and sometimes impossible to get rid of the Thai citizenship.
Warren *********
@Eu *****
yes Thai born stays for life.
เอ็ดเวิร์ด *******
Have you heard of the Oedipus route?
Warren *********
If you were born in Australia you can get a Thai by decent citizenship. Or if born in Thailand it's the other way around. First step is getting the birth certificate from where you weren't born. Once you have that it reasonably easy. As you said you are Australian I'll tell you the Thai end. After you get the Thai birth certificate you need to get your house registration over there. Your mum will know about it. Once you have that you can get a Thai passport. But remember when you leave Australia you must leave here with your Aussie passport only otherwise you will have to get a visa to get back. Or a shitload of problems. My wife and adult daughters have both passports. And my 2 Thai Aussie grandaughters have both birth certificate. But only Australian passports. They were both born here. Whenever you need advice on this stuff you should always ask the embassy. Good luck
DustySu **********
This is the best advice and rings true of all cases I have witnessed to date. My grandson is half Thai.

My friend's daughter had to do a DNA test, she'd never met her father, he was willing to sign on that he was her father at the Ampur, update the birth cert, and then with DNA results she was in. Much more complicated than your case.
Ricardo ********
Yes u can but u will lost ur Australian passport.
John ******
Thai & US passports are no poblem, use the Thai PP going in/out of Thailand, after that you use the same passport exiting as entering for any country you are visiting .......
Steve ***********
Ricardo Chinês
Paul ********
Lies. My daughters have both.
Paul ********
@Paul *******
my children have both as well
Ricardo ********
lies...???
Steven ***************
@Ricardo *******
. Whoever told you that was wrong.
Ricardo ********
@Steven **************
I don’t want more conversation, I know what I know and you know what you know, our conversation ends here.
Alessandro **********
My son has both Thai and Italian passports as both countries use jus sanguinis. So, you're just providing uncorrect informations. You don't need to give up your former citizenship and maybe it's not even possible
Lee ******
My daughter who has a British citizenship and passport her Mum is Thai would it be worth getting her a Thai passport. Just curious 🤔
Marcus ***********
My kids have both passports.... why not I say... I'm jealous.
Rob ********
@Lee *****
my daughter has Thai and British passport , the way I see it she can use her Thai passport for ease of entry into Thailand and other border countries and uk passport for the majority of the rest of the world. 😊.
Julian ********
@Rob *******
correct. My kids have Thai/ German citizenship and that's how we are traveling.
Warren *********
@Lee *****
get her the Thai birth certificate by decent. If she wants to live there or buy land she will be ok. You need that to get the passport. But don't really need a passport.
Lee ******
@Warren ********
She has the thai birth certificate and I've got a copy translated into English
Warren *********
@Lee *****
it's not necessary for her to have the passport unless she wants to stay for an extended time. Call the embassy where you live and they can tell you all you need.
Lee ******
@Warren ********
Thanks mate 👍
Warren *********
@Lee *****
no problem just message if you want
Warren *********
@Lee *****
your welcome. I've been through all this so was only to happy to help.
Lee ******
@Warren ********
I maybe need your advice in the future mate
Edwin ****
Doesn't bother where you are borm, you just need to have a thai birth certificate from thai embassy, which they will need either one of your parent with a thai citizenship. they will do. And you wont able to have both citizenship, so need to cancel the one you are in
Yves ********
David Broadfoot This is the info I got about 20 yrs ago from my embassy in Bangkok when my country changed its laws to allow dual citizenship... and they said that even if Thailand would require to renounce our current citizenship from birth my country would still recognize me as one of their own since one can never lose citizenship regardless the law in Thailand. And whereas Thailand may not specifically ask or force you to renounce your nationality, you may not make use of it and stand to be stripped of Thai citizenship if you do and are found out doing so... This includes using you former passport to enter Thailand, live outside Thailand for an extended period, etc. That is why I used the term “covertly”...
Stephen *******
@Edwin ***
They do nothing to stop you having dual citizenship. That's all you need to know.
Yves ********
@Edwin ***
officially Thailand doesn’t allow dual citizenship but if your homecountry allows it it is possible to keep that one too but covertly
Warren *********
@Edwin ***
you can have both. My family have both. So please give the guy good advice.
Raf *****
Buy it on Craig’s list lool
Andrew *******
Where were you born?

If you was born in Australia you mother should have registered you with the Thai embassy in Australia.

Talk to the embassy they will advise you.
Dylan ***********
Messaging you.
Jitender ***************
Local population will be 50% from father's as farangs in next 25 years
Tony ******
@Jitender **************
not indians as thais hate them see why now
Jitender ***************
@Tony *****
..... Indians are loveable that's why we are everywhere and doing well and respect countries where they are living not as farangs thinking.... They are spoiler of local social system !!
Tony ******
@Jitender **************
not u your a terrible person my comment was aimed at you ive spent a year of my life in India and good Indian friends
Melissa *******
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@Jite****
Australia is full of multicultural people and well, for the most part, they don’t feel the need to be upset because the colour of their children in 25 years. 😒
Jitender ***************
Means you are belongs to Nana area...
Tony ******
@Jitender **************
this is à low point in this group sad sad Man U troll
Dominik **********
@Jitender **************
that’s where you have been born?
Melle ***********
Khaosan road
Alex *************
@Melle **********
man 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Patrick ************
Fb can not give u anny good answer call the local embassy to get a clear and only justify answer
Melissa *******
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@Pat****
wasn’t able to navigate them sorry
Brian ********
I think if you contact the Thai Embassy they may help you Were you born in Australia? Or in Thailand ?
Melissa *******
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@Br***
tried. Weren’t too easy to navigate
Brian ********
@Melissa ******
because of the Coronavirus (COVID-19) everyone is having difficulty in taking to anybody at the Thai embassy
James ******
Why don’t you ask your mother to help, considering she’s Thai would help right?
James ******
Troy Martin I have 7 kids FYI and an opinion is just that, an opinion.
Hitachino ******
James ******
@Hitachino *****
really, I’m fed up with people here asking dumb questions that can easily be resolved with either 5 mins of serious thought or 2 mins on Google.

The internet is there to be used, just like the brain, problem nowadays is people want spoon fed and simply can’t be arsed. Prime example of laziness.... so there’s definitelyThai blood there 555
Phil *******
@James *****
if you don't like a question, ignore it and scroll down! No need to show the world how grumpy you are!
Melissa *******
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@Ja***
hi James, mums dying. She super sick with cancer. Also she can’t read or write with language. I’ve been all over online and the embassy in Canberra. It’s not that easy to navigate.
James ******
@Melissa ******
apologies and sorry to hear of your mother’s illness, much the same as mine who passed a few yrs back.

Then surely the other embassy advice etc here can get it done.

Good luck!
George *********
Thai embassy will advise.
แมทธิว **************
I don’t know if Australia allows duel nationality but in Europe I know many people who have 2 passports. They get mothers details and copy of birth certificate and apply for a passport however if you are in Oz the embassy is the right place to start.
Melissa *******
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@แมทธิว *************
mums actually sick. We don’t have documents for her
Steven ***************
@แมทธิว *************
. It does. Child born in Thailand or Australia to Thai/Aust parents is eligible for both .
Steve ******
Khao san road 800bht
Hakan ************
I'm Australian... my wife is thai... my daughter born in Thailand and she has both Australian and thai passport...
Phil *******
@Hakan ********
easier if from birth
Rob ***********
@Hakan ********
one of my girls born in Thailand the other in oz. not sure how hard for my Aussie born to get a Thai passport but can imagine the headache I’m going to have to go through
Ravinder ********
@Hakan ********
do you have thai passport ?
Hakan ************
Hakan ************
Richard **********
Get a lawyer and about $3000 to start. You will have to make at least one trip to thailand.
Paul *******
I have mine
Paul *******
You can't if you weren't born here
Paul *******
Klara Thomas I hear whst you are saying. I personally have been through this. I won't argue with you. If you say so
Paul *******
Klara Thomas I see what happened. "I've personally been through it" means I've personally made my own Thai ID card and thays how I know what I said. Lol
Paul *******
Klara Thomas sorry, what? I have Thai ID
Dylan ***********
@Paul ******
you can, but you have to start through your embassy.
Paul *******
@Dylan **********
I've tried. They will tell you yeah. But when you actually try. Won't work
Paul *******
Why don't you do thst then? It's not gonna work tho bro
Dylan ***********
I have it.
Dylan ***********
however it’s very very complicated
Dylan ***********
@Paul ******
if you have a Thai parent you can (like myself, born in the US).
Fadi *********
aaaaand unfollow !
Sean ******
Ask the thai embassy
Will *****
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