Can I re-enter Thailand after a 30-day stay and receive another 30 days without a visa?

Jun 16, 2024
5 months ago
Trace ****************
ORIGINAL POSTER
Hi there.. We are flying to Thailand early July. We have only just decided to go so don’t have time to apply for a tourist visa. We are planning on staying 30 days then flying to Philippines for a few weeks then back to Thailand. We will stay another 30 days then apply for an extension. We are not wanting to come home to NZ until Nov. I realise we can’t apply for another extension but if we leave the country and come back will they allow us another 30 days?
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The user plans to travel to Thailand without a visa, stay for 30 days, then visit the Philippines, before returning to Thailand for another 30 days. They inquired about the possibility of receiving another 30 days upon re-entry. The community confirmed that they could receive another 30 days if they re-enter payment-free. Suggestions were made about obtaining a visa extension in Thailand and considerations regarding the visa process and costs in New Zealand.
Jeff ********
Receiving a tourist visa should take less than a week. You probably have plenty of time.
Julian ********
Yes
Richard *************
you are doing exactly the same as me even the same time and im not doing the 60 day visa in nz its cheaper to do one extension over there then do a boarder crossing the last point im not shore id like to stay till november to we are going to have to hope the new 60 on arrival has kicked in by then,then the boarder run will cover us 🙏 good luck
Todd *********
Yes - if you re-enter visa exempt, you will get another 30 days which can be extended for 30 more within Thailand
Richard *************
@Todd ********
thanks 👍
Paul *******
In planning just remember arrival day is day 1.
Wayne *********
Visa are expensive in NZ anyway so better to do the exempt, hopefully by early July it will be 60 days exempt plus the 30 extension
Terary **********
@Wayne ********
I agree!. I don't know the costs of visa from NZ but they said they'll change the 30 day exempt to 60 days, that may happen before you need it.

You can cross land border twice a year for a visa exempt. You can fly for visa exempt as many times as you like.

If you have outside of Thailand travel plans then there really isn't a "need" for a vsia.
Richard *************
@Terary *********
i just whent to apply for it in nz $120 + your admin cost so still cheaper to get the 30 day on entry and pay 1900 bht to get the same 60 days and the visa sites very glitchy and they want quite a bit of information even who you work for and annual salary!
Trace ****************
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Richard ************
whoa really? 🙄 Won’t be doing that! We’ve got a Flexi ticket so better to just wing it I think…
Richard *************
@Trace ***************
yep thats my final conclusion to and part of traveling i feel if i can make it from the other side of the world back to nz in the middle of the pandemic im shore i can navigate a couple of visa hurdles😉 have fun i cant wait aye 😁
Trace ****************
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Terary *********
thank you 😊 we don’t mind doing a quick trip out (probably flying) again as long as we aren’t denied coming back in
Wayne *********
@Terary *********
your comment as if i did the post, it’s not me needing info on entering Thailand.
Wayne *********
@Terary *********
visa in NZ are 300nzd compared to 60aud
Brandon ************
You have plenty of time to apply for a visa. July is more than 2 weeks away and everything is done online now.

BUT if you would be applying from New Zealand then it's definitely not worth it since the Thai embassy there increased the price of a tourist visa to astronomical levels.

You shouldn't have any issues with your plan as long as you don't have an extension history of stays in Thailand previously. 3 entries shouldn't be too bad, and if you're worried you can just use a land border bounce agency for the final entry.
Jan ******************
Bed Kim 300 nzd
Brandon ************
Bed Kim apparently you haven't checked the embassy website recently. That's not the price anymore.
Chris ************
@Jan *****************
you have two points and both are wrong.

You say onward ticket is anyhow a formal requirement in general at visa exempted entry. Which is false.

And you showed as proof the screenshot from the mfa, where they say, a round-trip ticket is required. Only?

Which is so far also false.

Because 1. it is not at every airline or always needed

and 2. if an airline demand it it could be any flight. Round, return and onward.

So your screenshot of the mfa is partly correct only.

But you claim even if it is not fully correct, that it is the regulation.

You contradict your own statements with this "proof". So your statements are false.

Or your proof is not worth so much as are your statements.

Your claim that always an onward ticket is required - is false.

There are flights where you don't need to show onward or round-trip or return tickets.

You can board without them.

So your claim that people must have that, is often wrong.

But I get meanwhile that you don't want to understand. You intend to stay stubborn.

your ridiculous "proof" actually contradicts your first statement.

You say onward is needed and mfa says round-trip.

Find the mistake.
Jan ******************
@Chris ***********
Onward ticket or round trip ticket is the same. Return ticket is something else.
Chris ************
Jan ******************
@Chris ***********
Tell it as an example to this member on the site who explained some days ago that he was denied flight with KLM from UK with a one way ticket until he could prove he had a Non Immigrant visa and didn’t travel on visa exemption.
Jan ******************
@Chris ***********
Sorry but your childish comment is without any substance, facts or interest.
Herve *********
@Brandon ***********
NZ nationals pay the astronomical level only in NZ's thai embassy, but same fee as others if filing for a tourist visa elsewhere?
Brandon ************
@Herve ********
yes it's the price the Thai embassy in New Zealand charges. Each embassy sets the fee
Herve *********
@Brandon ***********
I know about NZ hikes (at the time, people here, prédicted the hike would eventually spread to Europe and US) But let me ask again:: you are saying that it's the usial 35$ for a NZ national in, say, at the thaï Embassy in Phnom Penh?
Jan ******************
@Herve ********
yes in NZ the fee for a single entry tourist visa is €175 euros. The general fee is normally €35 regardless of your nationality.
Trace ****************
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Brandon ***********
Thanks for such a quick answer! We were in Thailand last year and applied for one extension - do you think that one count against us?
Jan ******************
@Trace ***************
No, and you plan to stay in Thailand for 90 days in total and you will be fine with two visa exemptions and one extension. For visa exemptions you get a free stamp and the extension is 1900 baht. In NZ you pay almost 7000 baht (!) just for a single entry tourist visa. Remember that it’s formally required to show proof of an (cheep) onward ticket within 30 days when you travel on visa exemption.
Jan ******************
@Chris ***********
And some of the airlines I know would deny you also state this on their own website.
Jan ******************
@Chris ***********
You don’t comment formal regulations, just stick to your personal experience. Onward ticket is formally required for both visa exemption and tourist visa. For people who have knowledge this is not even a question. Do you think the airline will ask for it just for their own sake. When you enter Thailand as a tourist you formally should be able to show proof of: 1) Funds 2) accommodation 3) Onward ticket. Just take it or leave it.🤷🏼
Jan ******************
@Chris ***********
I guess you’re one of only one I’ve seen on this site proclaiming that an onward ticket is formally not required for entering on visa exemption. Some at least say that a bus ticket could be sufficient. Just stick to yourself mate.👍
Chris ************
@Jan *****************
i fly very often (30 - 60 times a year) and so know it.

Then there are so many pretenders same you, who "theoretically" know so much...

For example friends fly tommorow from Bali to Bangkok. Without any onward ticket and on visa exemption.😉

It is fact that some airlines ask for it.

It is also fact that some don't!

So your claim that it is formal is false, whatever you want to lie to yourself.

If you make false statements to others, you should be corrected.

My friends will not have spent money on an unnecessary onward ticket.

That is how to help.

Not with false statements.

But we both know, why you need to do that.

you are not able to admit when you're wrong and try to argue the facts away.
Jan ******************
@Chris ***********
You obviously have better knowledge than the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
Jan ******************
Jan ******************
@Chris ***********
This is VISA EXEMPTION. And answered directly from ministry of foreign affairs. There’s no general paragraph in the immigration act regarding the specific visas and visa exemption. You obviously have very poor knowledge of immigration to Thailand and just base things on your own experience.
Chris ************
@Jan *****************
So mfa says it must be a round ticket?

That EXcludes an onward or exit ticket what YOU always talked about... and you don't see, how you refute yourself?

See how ridiculous it is? Don't you see the contradictions???

you dont use your brain and dont listen to experiences and want to be a strict believer against common sense OR you know it and try to argue around to be right. omg

But here we go 😄

You finally admit that there is no such regulation and so not always a requirement for that.

And you admit, that experience exists, that it is not always needed, and people can also travel in cases without that.

Nice. Thats all what i said from the beginning.

You slowly begin to understand.

So it can not be a general claim that it is always and everytime a requirement.

By all that, you finally know now, that your claim was in general false.

Lets name the facts again:

1. it can happen that SOME airlines demand an exit flight at the checkin counter and others not

2. even if they demand, it still can be changed by some reasons and you can then fly without

3. there is no official law or regulation making that an always requirement

4. it could happen, but rarely, that immigration officers ask for that at entry

5. it is always possible, if one comes into such a situation to buy cheap online an onward ticket to solve

6. for to get a visa such can be demanded

So the advise must be:

please check IF your airline demands an exit ticket for checkin or not.

please check IF your embassy demands that for to get a visa or not.

it's good to have, but not always necessary and can then save such efforts and money.

Your general statement was false.
Jan ******************
@Chris ***********
Return tickets is never required, onwards tickets or round trip as stated. I both understand regulations and listen to personal experience. I’ve been travelling to Thailand several times myself on just an inbound ticket on visa exemption. Anyway for people with knowledge and experience is child learning that an onward ticket formally is required for visa exemption. That’s why I don’t find your personal experience relevant when I de facto know that -even people I personally know- are denied check in regarding this. The only reason why the airline would ask for an onward ticket is because they know it formally it’s required and they can be fined and responsible for return if formal requirements aren’t fulfilled. They obviously don’t just do it for their own sake. Onward ticket is rarely checked at the immigration unless you’ll get pulled aside for some other reason regarding your travel patterns. Then you formally have to be prepared to show funds, proof of accommodation and onward ticket.

At the end this is one of the stupidest discussion I ever had on this site with a person obviously without any more knowledge than his own experience who goes on personal attacks and gives others people different motives just for passing on well known information regarding immigration in Thailand.
Jan ******************
@Chris ***********
I know the regulations, you don’t know anything else than your own personal opinion and experience. Return ticket has never been mentioned. What’s still is required and you still obviously don’t understand is an onward ticket or a round trip to another destination.
Chris ************
@Jan *****************
this here is what you claimed and that is false. Full stop.
Jan ******************
@Chris ***********
Yes onward ticket to another destination is still required. Not a return ticket.

So that’s why you didn’t get it in the first place then. You misunderstood the meaning of onward VS return ticket.
Jan ******************
@Chris ***********
The day you get denied check in with an airline regarding this, it’s no help that other airlines would accept you. BECAUSE AN ONWARD TICKET OR ROND TRIP TICKET IS STILL FORMALLY REQUIRED FOR USING THE VISA EXEMPTION SCHEME TO THAILAND.
Chris ************
@Jan *****************
false. It is not for every flight - but some of course, needed and so not in general formally required.

And then it could be any flight ticket and sometimes even bus. Don't spread bullshit.
Jan ******************
@Chris ***********
Ok, let’s say it’s just for some airlines because some particular airlines misunderstand the formal requirements for entering Thailand on visa exemption. So maybe you can pass on advice for members worldwide which airline people should use and which they should avoid in the future.
Chris ************
@Jan *****************
now you got it.

But it's for sure not, because the airline misunderstands... that is an infantile view.
Jan ******************
@Chris ***********
The airlines knows, but not all are strict. That’s the point. And you can’t tell in advance.
Chris ************
@Jan *****************
you are only stubborn 😅😅
Jan ******************
@Chris ***********
and it seems that you are a sympathetic person. I used ministry of foreign affairs as a source in my cuts, and here’s the formal regulation regarding formal requirements for the different visa types. You can study then further yourself because you obviously don’t have any other knowledge than your own personal experience:

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Jan ******************
Jan ******************
Jan ******************
@Chris ***********
Ok, I’ll do it a bit short. Your personal experience doesn’t help all the people over time who are denied check in and even de-boarded on a three legged flight because formal requirements aren’t fulfilled. Why? Because the airline can be fined and responsible for your return.

For entering on visa exemption you’ll formally need to prove an onward ticket within 30 days even if you’re entitled to do an extension. Why? Ask MFA.

Regarding online check in I guess you’re ticked anyway is visible in the airlines check in system.

People entering Thailand as tourists on visa exemption or tourist visa formally need to show proof of funds, accommodation and an onward ticket. Long term stay on Non Immigration visa doesn’t require an onward ticket.

The source is the Ministry of Foreign Affairs general requirements;

“- Evidence of travel from Thailand (air ticket paid in full)”
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