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Can I apply for a visa extension on a Non-O visa while living in rented accommodation and what about the TM30 requirements with usufruct?
Hi a question if i may. When i arrive on a O visa marriage.
I will need a TM30 but if the house is not finished being built, and we have to stay in rented accommodation for a while will I be able to still do my visa application.
Also am putting land in my wife's name and a usufruct for me. Is the usufruct classed as my TM30 or will my wife have to give me a TM30.
Last time we lived in Thailand I had a company and only had to take blue book to immigration.
Any information much appreciated.
I will need a TM30 but if the house is not finished being built, and we have to stay in rented accommodation for a while will I be able to still do my visa application.
Also am putting land in my wife's name and a usufruct for me. Is the usufruct classed as my TM30 or will my wife have to give me a TM30.
Last time we lived in Thailand I had a company and only had to take blue book to immigration.
Any information much appreciated.
Answer summary
The user inquires about applying for a visa extension on an O visa while temporarily staying in rented accommodation due to their house under construction. Key points include: the need for a TM30, which must be filed by the landlord when renting; the role of the wife's land ownership and usufruct in relation to TM30 filing; and previous experiences with immigration processes in Thailand. Commentary suggests that accommodation registration is important and that there are options to navigate TM30 filing, even if the current residence refuses to comply.
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David **********
you need a tm30 can be on rental
Jim *******
You are not puting the land into your wife's name that is how it must be, nobody is asking whether you agree or not. You have no any right to any land ownership in Thai.
Stuart ******
OP@Jim ******
read my post im putting the land in my wife's name.Jim *******
You are buying the land in her name, you name will be nowhere as if you never existed.
Michael ********
Usufruct will make no difference to TM30 it will be the holder of the Blue book for the house and land. You can get the house only registered to you but to me thats a bit pointless and will just mean you can do app in your name which is quite a simple process
Jim *******
Nooo. The house Blue book is for Thai nationals, they can sign you in as a tenant, called Yellow Book, with your name in it. That is the most you can get.
That took me 1 month to get, I am the owner of the condo, I bought it. Bangkok, Samut Prakhan. Thai wife and daughter have the Blue Book, me, the owner, Yellow book.
That took me 1 month to get, I am the owner of the condo, I bought it. Bangkok, Samut Prakhan. Thai wife and daughter have the Blue Book, me, the owner, Yellow book.
Jim *******
@Michael *******
No. The Blue Book is for Thai nationals only. No foreigner can have the Blue Book.Stuart ******
OPI knew all that and will get a usufruct and get it registered at the land registry office.
Nongnuch ********
@Michael *******
a foreigner cannot get a house registered to him. he cannot get a blue housebook with his name in it, nor can he get named as owner on the Land paper the house is sitting on. WHAT are you talking about?Michael ********
@Nongnuch *******
for house can not for land. You can have seperate owners of house and land, something that has caused problems in the past where people have bought land thinking they own everything, but they dont own the house. Google itJim *******
@Michael *******
From posts like yours all the rubbish comes to light.What lawyer could have ever said that a foreigner owns the house (the land and the construction).
Go back to your Google education .
Nongnuch ********
@Michael *******
ecactly. . .you never really own the house no matter what a lawyer told you
Andy *****
While the discussion is on TM30, we are needing to stop in resort accommodation while the house build is being completed and in rural N.E Thailand both resorts we have used have point blank refused to do a TM30. I know it is their responsibility but I have managed to get around the problem however what would the course of action be if I was not able to side step it ??
Nongnuch ********
@Andy ****
so leave the resort and book into a REAL hotel which does properly register you per TM30Andy *****
@Nongnuch *******
oh and reading your reply’s and seeing your attitude to other people I’d rather you don’t bother answering in all fairness. Thanks for your time 👍Nongnuch ********
@Andy ****
😂😂😂😂😂 you can't be more daftAndy *****
@Nongnuch *******
Ha ha.. what are you doing on an advice forum then, unless it’s to make you feel special. Did you trip over your over inflated ego and bang your self important head tonight or are you just mea !!! Either way have a great night. 😜Nongnuch ********
@Andy ****
you might have to travel a bit further to find something in the Eesan that can be called hotel. I live in the Eesan for 27 years and I can only tell you: get your A into motion. There are resorts, and there definitely also are some hotelsNongnuch ********
@Andy ****
then FIND a resort which properly registers you per TM30. I am not your nanny holding your hands, buddy. You gotta GROW UP and get things doneAndy *****
@Nongnuch *******
there are no REAL hotels locally, they are all resorts.
Jan ******************
If you are renting the property, the responsibility lies with the landlord. However, you may personally visit the Immigration Office to submit a TM.30, provided that you bring a copy of the house registration book, the owner’s identification card, and the rental agreement.
Once your wife has obtained her house registration book and you reside at the property, you may jointly register a TM.30 for yourself. This procedure may also be completed electronically.
Once your wife has obtained her house registration book and you reside at the property, you may jointly register a TM.30 for yourself. This procedure may also be completed electronically.
Marianne ********
@Jan *****************
I will add here that whenever I've gone to Immigration ( Cha-Am, Petchabri ) to get this done personally, the Immigration officers wanted a recently dated confirmation from the landlord that they indeed was letting me do this process myself. I didn't have a recent letter, and they still did it, but they told me next time I would have to get a updated confirmation. Mileage may vary, but something to note.
Graham ******
@Marianne *******
Next time use the documentation you have to set up an online account and do your own TM30s online as requiredMarianne ********
@Graham *****
Yeah, I've done that now. I procrastinated it because I was super overwhelmed. Got some help with putting in the name of the owner and whatnot correct and it was smooth sailing. 😛
Michael ********
Within 24 hours from entering Thailand
Nongnuch ********
@Michael *******
oh we all know this, Mister Wohl it all. He but cannot get registered in a house which is not finished, yet, because it doesn't have a blue housebook, yetNongnuch ********
and if you stay in a rented accomodation, then make the landlord register you by TM30, and be ready & fit to apply for the extension
Michael ********
Only landowners must make TM30
Kim *********
@Michael *******
I did it for my wife many times on my own tm30 account.Marianne ********
Wherever you are staying will need to file the TM30 for you.
Everytime you sleep somewhere else, you are supposed to get a TM30 filed.
Rented accommodation is fine for visa applications.
The last part I'm not clear on, but assuming it will technically be your wife who would need to do it. But you can make a account online for yourself and adding the address yourself there, with her owner documentation, and file it all yourself when needed.
Everytime you sleep somewhere else, you are supposed to get a TM30 filed.
Rented accommodation is fine for visa applications.
The last part I'm not clear on, but assuming it will technically be your wife who would need to do it. But you can make a account online for yourself and adding the address yourself there, with her owner documentation, and file it all yourself when needed.
Stuart ******
OPThanks for answer's. Yes need to know procedure before wife getting blue book.
Cheers all.
Cheers all.
Marianne ********
@Stuart *****
The landlord of the rented accommodation will need to do the TM30 for you, or give you the documents required to do it yourself at Immigration or registering the address on the TM30 website so you can do it yourself there. But rented accomodation is fine for visa application and extensions, as long as you are staying there at the time of applying. Immigration might come visit you.
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Marianne ********
@Stuart *****
You can register av account as a foreigner.You add addresses seperate under your account, you will need documents from the owner for that part.
And then you register yourself at the address later.
Not a very intuitive website. But you can have your own account
Stuart ******
OPReading that it's for my wife to do. She's in the UK with me and have been for 11 years now. We are going back next year.
Stuart ******
OP@Marianne *******
thanks for that can I register now before moving to Thailand.Nongnuch ********
@Marianne *******
his wife cannot register him in an unfinished home as she would not yet have a blue housebook for this house .. sorry but you are wrongMarianne ********
@Nongnuch *******
Well, sure. Might not have come across well, but that part was when their house is finished and they moved into it.
Marianne ********
@Nongnuch *******
I feel this part kinda answered what to do NOW.---
Wherever you are staying will need to file the TM30 for you.
Everytime you sleep somewhere else, you are supposed to get a TM30 filed.
Rented accommodation is fine for visa applications.
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But I guess this might have been a bit too unspecific not mentioning that the landlord of the rented home needs to supply documents.
The other part touched on the last question in OPs post.
Nongnuch ********
@Marianne *******
he is asking what to do NOW. Not what to do later when the house is finished and his wife got a blue housebook for it . . as this takes some time . .Thai bureaucracyNongnuch ********
I would not overcomplicate matters. Just book into a cheap motel near where you are building the house, shortly before you want to apply on Immigration, and make sure they register you properly by TM30. Use the printout from the accomodation or a screenshot, and visit Immigration to apply for the extension
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