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What are the TM30 requirements for expats living in Thailand on a guardian visa regarding the filing process for a non O visa?

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Hiya. This is pertaining to TM30.

I live here on a guardian visa, and we are planning to convert my husband’s tourist visa into a non O visa. We took out a contract on a house. My hubby and my name is in the contract. In the meantime, my hubby have been coming and going via tourist/APEC visa and obviously stays with us whenever he’s here. We are relatively clear about the application process and documents needed but are tripped up by the Tm30 requirement which says that i or my hubby should have done a TM30 within 24 hours of his arrival. We have never done that. So does it mean he needs to leave the country again, come back in, submit a Tm30 within 24 hours, before he put in the application for non O visa? Or can we do the TM 30 now, he has been here nearly a month and was just granted a 30days extension.

Thank you once again to all the nice folks for taking the time to answer and help.
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The post discusses the TM30 requirement for expats in Thailand, focusing on a couple where one partner holds a guardian visa while the other is on a tourist visa. The poster is unsure about the TM30 filing process, as they haven't done it within the required 24 hours of arrival. Comments provide various insights, highlighting that the property owner should ideally file the TM30, the infrequency of legal repercussions for late filings, and the importance of local immigration rules. There's also mention of needing sufficient time left on the tourist visa extension to apply for a non O visa.
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Bob **********
Bob **********
Just remember your husband will probably need 20 days left on his current extension to apply for the non-o jomtien office requires 800k in a Thai bank in his name only for 2 months prior to application most other offices do not
Adrey *****
Adrey *****
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@Bob *********
got it thanks
Stuart *********
Stuart *********
TM30 requirements differ from one province to another. By law a property owner must register a foreigner at their address within 24 hours of arrival. Many don’t and usually there’s little ramifications for them if they don’t.

Some offices require you to file a new TM30 if you’ve stayed somewhere out of the province, some require you only to refile if you’ve been out of the country, yet some say if you’re returning to the same address even from being overseas you don’t need to file. A crap shoot.

Many immigration offices require you to have a valid TM30 to do an extension. The within 24 hours bit is just a mockery. Whether you file one online or at an immigration office how are they going to know that you haven’t just returned from your mate Rogers house in Nakhon Si Nowhere and are filing within 24 hours of your return. They don’t. Just file it. Use todays date and go from there.

If having to do it at an immigration office rather than online it will depend on who owns the property where you stay as to the required paperwork. Usually best that the homeowner files it if possible, but if not you may be able to file on their behalf with copies of their ID, house book and a power of attorney form authorising you to do such a filing. Requirements will differ depending on who owns the property- a Thai national, a foreigner or a company. Best to check with your local immigration office as to what you’ll need to file.
Gary *********
Gary *********
@Stuart ********
in Phuket, I just got my TM30 stamped going through the drive through window after a border run to Malaysia. They just stamped the old TM30 since I did not change address.
Adrey *****
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@Gary ********
Great. I live in Bangkok I think it’s a bit stricter here. Fingers crossed
Adrey *****
Adrey *****
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@Stuart ********
hello

Stuart. Thank you as always. The property management office files the TM so getting a copy is not issue. Trying to match the TM to my husband’s arrival - assuming the 24hour rule is the issue. But like you say makes sense to just file it and see what they say:) Strangely my husband managed to get an extension with no TM 30 form. As you say every day it’s a surprise with the immigration folks. Cheers!!!
Nick ************
Nick ************
@Adrey ****
Land Of Surprises. Thankfully, mostly good ones.
Adrey *****
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@Nick ***********
Definitely.
Stuart *********
Stuart *********
@Adrey ****
some offices like Phuket as an example do not require a filed TM30 for short term extensions
Henrik ****
Henrik ****
Your immigration should be very hostile if doing the TM30 reporting late and getting a ticket for that (max 2,000 THB for a private property owner). I didn't get a ticket even though I originally did it more than one year too late 🙂 when going from multiple Non-O into Non-O extensions...
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@Henrik ***
I’m glad you got lucky:) I don’t mind paying the 2000baht if that’s the only penalty:)
Henrik ****
Henrik ****
@Adrey ****
, no guarantee. The max. penalty is 10,000 THB but is meant for hotels and the like. Go to Immigration with your (Thai) house lord and tell them that none of you knew about this until recently 🙂
Brandon ************
Brandon ************
A TM30 is a legal requirement for all property owners in Thailand. They must report the arrival of a foreigner within 24 hours. It sounds like you're not the owner of the property so you may not be able to file a TM30. You would need to contact the property owner to file the TM30 for you and your husband.
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@Brandon ***********
Hi again and thank you again for your help. Mt property agent can do that for us, and they have done it for my 90days reporting. So no issue there.
Brandon ************
Brandon ************
@Adrey ****
Then just have them do it and print proof to take to immigration when you go.

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