no, after your 90 O visa you apply for a retirement O visa in Thailand that is valid for 12 months. When the 12 months is up you then apply for an extension, you don't apply for an extension on your 90 day visa. It's pretty simple to understand, 12 month O retirement visas are issued in Thailand, and 12 month OA retirement visas are issued in your own country. FYI I have already done this.

@Steve ******

yes that's just the 90 day visa before you apply for the yearly extendable O retirement visa in Thailand.

I doubt anyone is going to retire for 90 days 🤣

But you can apply for the annual extendable OA retirement visa within many countries.

I already had an annual extendable O retirement visa plus the 90 day O visa at the start.

You cannot get the annual and extendable O retirement visa outside of Thailand. Only the OA.

@Graham *****

there is a 90 day non-immigrant O visa, you get before the non-immigrant O retirement visa, which is valid for 1 year.

Generally in Thailand you get the 90 day O visa before you transfer to the yearly O retirement visa. You get the O retirement visa in Thailand.

Outside of Thailand you can straight up apply for a retirement OA visa which gives you a year.

If you use an agent or lawyer in Thailand to get an O retirement visa after arriving visa exemption, you will get a 15 month retirement visa, which is the 90 day O visa plus the 12 month O Retirement visa. It's a bit of a grey area to have them all at once, but you pay for the convenience.

@Steve ******

there are 2 types of retirement visa, the O and OA.

You can get the OA outside of Thailand, but the O inside only.

They have slightly different requirements.

You cannot get the non-immigrant O retirement in the US, just the OA retirement.

Why don't you just apply for a non-immigrant OA retirement visa in the US?

You can't apply for the non-immigrant O retirement visa in the US though, just the OA.

20 years if you get invited to apply

I don't see why not

@Sionann *****

no worries

Do you need someone to hold your hand?