My landlord makes me pay for a tm30 each time I come into the country but online it says it’s supposed to be free. Can someone help me out?
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The TM30 form, which landlords must file within 24 hours of a foreign tenant's arrival in Thailand, is supposed to be free, and there are concerns regarding landlords charging tenants for this service. Many responses emphasize that it is a legal obligation for landlords to file this form without charge. Several comments suggest asserting your rights with the landlord, filing the TM30 yourself, or potentially finding a new place to rent to avoid such charges. The community expresses general disapproval of landlords who impose fees for this administrative task, reminding tenants of their rights.
it costs him nothing to do it but I guess he’d claim he’s charging you for the hassle 😂 but I’ve never been charged no because ultimately it’s their responsibility not yours
Callum *******
Youve been jewed big time
Sweet *****
Your “landlord” is probably not your landlord and is paying someone else/another landlord to do the TM30, don’t worry about it. Don’t make such a stink about it or you will just become another foreigner who never got his deposit back. 97% of people in the Thailand Facebook groups will take pleasure in winding you up to ensure you will become one of these victims, don’t take the bait is my advice 😊
Anonymous ******************
I've never been charged by my agent or LL to do the tm30 and I leave thailand every 1-2 months. I don't really know if they actually do it every time as I never asked for the receipt.
So far, I haven't stayed more than 90 days so haven't needed the tm30 for any immigration purposes.
Your LL sounds like they're charging you for the inconvenience of renting out to foreigners. I honestly would move as soon as my lease is up and look for someone nicer
Dany ********
Anonymer Teilnehmer 596 its not even only when you leave the country. it is every time you spend a night in a hotel when the TM30 has to be reported. so as a frequent traveler inside thailand, you will need many many TM30. and the landlord has to do it, for free
Landlord charging a tenant for a TM30 is a scam. It's the landlord's responsibility.
James ********
Anonymous participant 730 frankly if the renter is traveling often and making MANY ENTRIES into Thailand during the rental period, I don't think it's wrong for the landlord to charge a nominal fee for filing the TM30 each time.
it’s a scam, a ripoff. its not your problem if you leave offen and spend days traveling, in hotels… its a legal obligation for the landlord. there is nothing to be paid.
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Steve *******
It is 100% free and takes one minute to do.
Your landlord is a scam artist. If he doesn't fill out the TM30, HE is breaking the law.
Just take your rental agreement to immigration next time and do it yourself. And inform them that your landlord is charging money for it, which might lead to him getting a call from the local authorities (less than 1% chance of this though, this is Thailand after all)
Wannikea *********
Get the login details from the landlord and do it yourself
Anonymous ******************
FYI, My agent called the immigration and told me there is no need to do it each time I am traveling as I have a 1 year lease.
“It’s only necessary for the teachers from international schools that when they come back they have to re do every times for thire are repost to the government.”
“But normal working is fine as immigration will check on the last date in TM30 and lease agreement if it is the same, than you are safe. :)”
Ray *****
Anonymous participant 431 nope, that is not the case
Greg ********
Anonymous participant 431 It depends on the Immigration Office
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Anonymous ******************
Find an new landlord- easy problem fixed
Anonymous ******************
First of all it is a legal requirement for the landlord to file this within 24 hours of your arrival.
If a landlord fails to file the TM30 form, they may be fined between 800 and 2,000 Thai Baht.
Next time when you enter put your foot down and let them know you will no longer be paying any fees and you don’t appreciate being exploited by them, and remind them they are legally required to do this!
Greg ********
Anonymous participant 322 Put your foot down as much as you like. The immigration office has fined tenants.
you can mitigate this by doing it yourself, which is allowed.
if your landlord fails to provide you with the information to enable you to do it your self, and doesn’t do it then you goto your nearest immigration office with your rental agreement etc and inform them of the situation.
Greg ********
Anonymous participant 322 Yes, you can do it yourself. Hardly putting your foot down and forcing the landlord to do it though is it
Me personally I would be asking for my money back and if they refuse let them know I’ll be reporting them to the immigration office for their disingenuous behaviour.
And moving forward i want evidence/confirmation that they have submitted my TM30 going forward to mitigate any potential issues later down the line.
Greg ********
Anonymous participant 322 The immigration office will not give two hoots if you report the landlord for not updating the TM30. You are not in Kansas, Toto. The time to get it made concrete it to arrange with the agent and/or landlord when you rent the place this is a contract requirement
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Mo ******
I did not pay to get it in Phuket
Mo ******
Hold on do we need to do it anytime we leave and go back into the country?
you need a TM30 every time you spend a night in whatever accommodation. if you travel inside thailand and sleep in a hotel then they will do a TM30. when you go back to your own rental then you will need a new TM30. you allways need a new one when you sleep somewhere else
but the form you fill in when you enter the territory is precisely a declaration of residency? So you need to do it again after you go back from the airport?
I'm not sure what you're asking. TM30 is required by every property owner to be filed within 24 hours of a Thai arriving at their property. It has nothing to do with residency. Whether it's to spend 1 night or 100, it's the same requirement.
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You can do it yourself if you don’t want to pay. I guess it may depend on the immigration office but in Chiang mai it takes about 5 minutes.
Greg ********
Anonymous participant 608 When Jomtien required it I went there and did it. As you say it does not take long if the office is fine with it.
Mike *****
Did it in Udon myself 5-10 minutes. Landlord didn't know about it and didn't take the risk. Bangkok is another story...
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Anonymous ******************
How often are you leaving your home? It is free for them to do but they may get annoyed if too often and charge for it. Keep in mind this needs to be done each single time tenants are spending a night at another place and come back; how annoying. There is nothing much you can do but changing of place. Make sure you include it in the contract next time.
Greg ********
Anonymous participant 116 It depends on the Immigration Office too though. Some require it and some not. Some for both domestic and international and some international only
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Tan ************
Don't report the landlord for tax evasion too
Junior ******
The first one is the landlord responsible if you leave and return it’s then your responsibility
my friends never get charged when they leave and come back
Anonymous ******************
Participant(e) anonyme I doubt the owner reports them each single time they spend a night at another place and come back. That's how things should be done but that's definitely annoying for everyone.
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Wayne *********
Find somewhere else to live
Marianne ********
scummy landlord.
It is their legal obligation to do it. You should not have to pay.
Greg ********
It is free for him to do. My agent does it for free but some agents do charge. It is between you and your landlord