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What are the consequences of not filing TM30 in Thailand every time I return from travel?
Feb 15, 2025
a year ago
Anonymous *************
ORIGINAL POSTERTM30
I live in Bangkok and travel every month for work. I always return back to my rented apartment and I am starting to feel like I am inconveniencing my landlord to do the tm30 so often. I've offered to do it myself at the beginning, but they said no (maybe they dont want to give me their login). As I am not staying in Thailand long enough to do a 90 day report or visa extension (so no need to go to immigration), are there any consequences to not do the tm30 everytime I come back from my travels? Thank you for any input
I live in Bangkok and travel every month for work. I always return back to my rented apartment and I am starting to feel like I am inconveniencing my landlord to do the tm30 so often. I've offered to do it myself at the beginning, but they said no (maybe they dont want to give me their login). As I am not staying in Thailand long enough to do a 90 day report or visa extension (so no need to go to immigration), are there any consequences to not do the tm30 everytime I come back from my travels? Thank you for any input
TLDR : Answer Summary
In Thailand, the TM30 form must be filed by landlords whenever a foreign tenant moves in or out of a residence, including after travels. While the procedure can be cumbersome, especially for frequent travelers, it is technically the landlord's responsibility to file it. Failing to do so could lead to complications for the tenant if they need to visit immigration. Some users suggest that if you don't require a 90-day report, you may not need to worry about it as the system tracks immigration more than individual activities, but it's ultimately safer to ensure that TM30 is filed to avoid potential fines during your next interaction with immigration.
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Anonymous ******************
Most people don't bother with tm30 until they need to get it for immigration. It's admirable you want to follow the rules and shows what tpye of person you are. Most people don't bother. Actually I think most people don't even know that is what they are supposed to do.
Cliff *********
You don’t need it if you come and go without 90 day report
Johnny ********
Just don't tell landlord you are leaving. Would that work? Does TM30 track your comings and going out of the country?
Greg ********
@Johnny *******
The Immigration system tracks you and that is where your TM30 is recorded.Reply to
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Christopher *******
Bring the Home Rental Contract and Landlord's ID to Government Complex .
They will give you some kinds of forms . After you filled them, you'll get the bangkok tm30 receipt physical paper .
They will give you some kinds of forms . After you filled them, you'll get the bangkok tm30 receipt physical paper .
마리오 ***
So my gf went down to do her visa extension after paying the landlord to update her TM.30 the night before. Apparently it takes a day or two to process because when she went to immigration they said her TM.30 wasn’t valid and tried to fine her 3000 baht. She ended up doing a border run to restart the clock instead.
Moral of the story is don’t put it off to the last minute like we did. Be aware that immigration has to process and formally accept the TM.30 report online before it’s “official”.
Moral of the story is don’t put it off to the last minute like we did. Be aware that immigration has to process and formally accept the TM.30 report online before it’s “official”.
Stuart *********
@마리오 **
It doesn’t take any time to “process” once you save the data inputted it’s on the system. Why they said it was invalid is another matter. Perhaps they hadn’t filled in the data correctly. I see a lot of people where their passport has been entered wrongly or has the wrong country of origin etc. But it’s not because of any processing time.
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Seun **********
Hold up! With a DTV, you need a new TM30 every 90 days? Whether you leave the country or not?
마리오 ***
@Stuart ********
I had tried using the old TM.30, but the agent checked my passport stamps and saw an exit/re-entry after it and sent me off to do the TM.30 .Greg ********
@마리오 **
At Jomtien you had to re-register TM30 after travel out of country? They are really inconsistent with this. Last time told me no need ie last April. February 2024 I had to lolReply to
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마리오 ***
@Stuart ********
Chonburi immigration requires a current TM.30 for the 90’day report. That’s based on my personal experience in late January.Greg ********
@마리오 **
Correct. They will send you away if no TM30 at Jomtien. Seen it happen to couple on front of me last year.Reply to
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마리오 ***
Seun Handyman you need to have a current TM.30 to do your 90 day report, yes. If you haven’t left the country you can still use the TM.30 you did when you (re)entered Thailand.
Stuart *********
@마리오 **
That’s office dependent. In places like Phuket you need a filed TM30 every time you re-enter the country or even if you’ve stayed in a hotel or hospital in country. Of course whether you need to file one is debatable. You really only need one for interaction with immigration.
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Marianne ********
Greg ********
@Marianne *******
Some Immigration Offices require the TM30 updated if you leave the country and re-enter. Need to check local requirements. Some no need if coming back to same address.Marianne ********
Greg ********
@Marianne *******
More than once I have gone to reregister TM30 after overseas travel and been told no need. Last 2 times did not bother. 90 Day reporting done no issue twice and visa renewed no issue.Reply to
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Siggi *******
@Marianne *******
no only reentering the countryMarianne ********
@Siggi ******
No. Any time you change apartments, or hotels, you need your landlord or hotel management to send in a new TM30 for you.
Every time you change accommodation, a new TM30 is required.
Siggi *******
@Marianne *******
when I have a steady address then I don't need it. And anyway how long I don't need anything from imigration it's not bother meLuit *****************
@Siggi ******
When you stay at another place, they have to do TM30 for you, and that automatically ends the TM30 of your previous address. How do you think immigration would know you did return to the previous address?Reply to
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Amin ************
The owner or agent (realtor) of your condo should file a TM30 every time when you come back to Thailand. Explain your situation and offer some tip for their extra service every month, 1-2k baht.
Steven *******
Do the TM30 before you need something (90 day, or renewing visa), otherwise forget about it.
Matthew *************
If you don’t need to go to immigration, don’t bother 👍🏻
Alessandro ***********
@Mat****
it’s illegal for landlords not to register their tenant. They have 24 hours to do so, or THEY get fined. Not you.Cissi *********
@Alessandro **********
wrong... sure the landlord can get fined for not doing the TM30 registration BUT so can you! I.e. even tenants get fined if there is no valid TM30 for them when they interact with immigration.Dyg *****
@Alessandro **********
I rented a house for 1 year and my landlord took care of TM30. Does he have to re-do TM30 every time he enters and exits the country? Considering that I enter and exit every 6 months and do 90-day reports, is it necessary to renew it constantly?Greg ********
@Dyg ****
1) Not every Immigration Office required a TM30 update after overseas travel - check local requirements 2) When I had to do it I coukd do it myself at the local office if I was returning to same address - no need for landlord to do anythingDyg *****
@Greg *******
Is it enough to do this at the immigration office every 90 days?Greg ********
@Dyg ****
If your office requires TM30 re-registration after overseas travel it must be done within 24 hours of arriving back in Thailand. A friend just did it last week. No all offices require the re-registration though. Many do not bother as it is a lot of work at a busy office with lots of foreigners registered.Dyg *****
@Greg *******
Thank you. I will ask the immigration office in my first 90-day report.Greg ********
@Dyg ****
Good idea. Even the same office can change its minds on these re-registration requirements depending on which way the wind is blowing. Jomtien for example requires it sometimes then others I have been chased away saying "No need, no need". When they first implemented this a few years ago you needed to re-register even after domestic travel. So going to Bankglok for a night meant people had to go to local immigration next day. Did not last long as it was impractical and too much workAlessandro ***********
@D**
for him yes. As far as I understand yes, It is his responsibility to register you. even with 1 year + rents.
Dyg *****
@Alessandro **********
He did this once and if I don't notify him he won't know I left the country. It seems more logical for him to do this once but I will look into it, thank you.Matthew *************
@Alessandro **********
you are correct about it being the landlords responsibility (as per the law) but they very rarely (if ever) get fined or even checked. In practice, the responsibility falls with the tenant as they are the one requesting a service from immigration and therefore must ensure the TM30 is up to date to facilitate the processing of their request. The tenant is also the one who usually pays the fine as they are the ones having to face immigration.Alessandro ***********
@Mat****
where I am it seems to be very different. I often see immigration going to hotels to check registrations.Reply to
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Brian ********
Small gift on your return - for their inconvenience. Find a local great cake shop or something else that’s minimal but shows how much appreciate them.
Ping **********
Other option find people who ok to do tm30 service to you , with the price you both happy :)
Anonymous ******************
Can you just stay at a hotel for one night before you go to immigration for a 90 day extension? The hotel will issue you a tm30
Luit *****************
Anonieme deelnemer 511 Normally that will work
Latt****
Anonymous participant 511 don’t think so, TM30 also includes your check-out date which must cover your entire stay.
Luit *****************
@Latt****
check out is optional to fill in, a new check in at another house/hotel will end the previous one.Reply to
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