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Where can my Thai wife obtain property deeds for her houses, and how does this affect my visa application?

Thai visa Non-O visa property ownership TM30 Tabien Baan Thai ID card Thai citizenship immigration process blue house book

May 19, 2025

23 days ago

Robert *******

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I have a roundabout Thai visa question. My Thai wife of 45 years has owned a few houses in Thailand. One in NamPhong and 1 or 2 in Nakon Phanom. But I have never seen an ownership document like a Property Deed - โฉนดที่ดิน. So I was wondering where she could get that document. ( she isn’t very good with paperwork). So if I secure that document, I was thinking of applying for a 1 year non-immigrant visa to visit my wife ( family)  in Thailand. We are both in Florida currently, but technically we would fly to Thailand together and then I would be visiting her. I have had 3-4 non-immigrant visas in the past but over 10 years ago. It seems that the TM 30 is more important now than in the past and maybe I could be put on the House Registration that would simplify the TM 30 process. Good idea or some other alternative???

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TLDR : Answer Summary

The user seeks guidance on obtaining property ownership documents for houses owned by his Thai wife, which may assist in his application for a Non-O visa. There is confusion regarding the necessity of a property deed (Chanote) versus the Blue House Book (Tabien Baan) for immigration purposes and the TM30 registration. Users in the comments clarify that the Blue House Book is essential for ownership details and can enable the acquisition of a Yellow House Book and Pink ID card, although it does not directly influence TM30 requirements.

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1.) A Thai Citizen needs to currently be in a Blue Thai Household Book ( ทะเบียนบ้าน ท.ร. 14 / Tabien Baan) in order to obtain a Thai ID Card or renew a Thai ID Card

2.) Except in the rare instance of their very first Thai Passport issued by a Thai Embassy/Thai Consulate (e.g. born outside of Thailand), all Thai Citizens need a current (unexpired) Thai ID Card in order to obtain or renew a Thai Passport

3.) A Thai Citizen can only be listed in one (1) Blue Tabien Baan (ท.ร. 14) at any one time/instance. A Thai Citizen may own multiple properties (be listed on multiple land title deeds, โฉนด / "Chanote" ), but can only be listed on one Blue Tabien Baan at a time

4.) For you to be listed in a Yellow Tabien Baan ( ท.ร. 13 ), then that can only be done at the District Office ( ที่ว่าการ อำเภอ in the Provinces / สำนักงาน เขต in Bangkok Metropolis), and also be issued the Pink Foreigner ID Card subsequently after being listed in a Yellow Tabien Baan ( ท.ร. 13 )

5.) However, a Yellow Tabien Baan ( ท.ร. 13 ) has Nothing to do with Thai Immigration matters as it pertains to a potential Change of Thai Visa Type in-country, getting an Extension of Stay, submitting a 90-Days Report, or even for a Hotel, landlord, or property owner to file a TM.30 at your local Thai Immigration Office

6.) So, what exactly do you want to do?? Do you want to stay continuously in Thailand for a longer period of time (more than 90 days, 1 year continuously, etc.)?