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What should I do if my landlord refuses to provide documents for filing TM.30 in Thailand?

Ewuraa *******
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Hello Admins and Everyone,

I have a concern with the TM. 30.

I have read most of the posts here concerning filing the TM. 30, however I'm making this post because I perceive my issue is quite different.

I fully moved to a newly rented apartment in Bangkok on the 24th June and that's when I came back from a Visa run in Nigeria... Africa.

Since I came back, I've been trying to get my landlord to give me the necessary documents ( ie copies of his ID and House book with his signature) to file for TM. 30 but it has all proved futile.

I then downloaded the TM. 30 form... and requested him to fill and sign it but he said he can't do that too.

I asked him to go with me to the Immigration to file it or do it himself and give me the receipt and he still said No.

Just this Evening, I received a message from the caretaker that, the landlord said he can't provide me with the documents I need so I should move out.... apparently, I'm not the only one, we're about 3 foreigners facing this problem with the landlord.

MY PLAN:

I have decided to go to the Immigration with a copy of my rent contract and that of the apartment's advertising brochure which has the landlord's contact, address and the map of the apartment as well as my passport details to the Immigration tomorrow to file it.... and see what happens.

If they don't agree, I'll explain my situation to them.... because honestly, I don't have the funds to move out now.

MY QUESTION/CONCERN

In this situation what should I do?

Am I the one at fault here?

Is there anything the Immigration can do to assist me with the landlord?

Well, I have too many questions now.... I don't know what to do, I'm in a fix or maybe I'm confused.

Everyone, someone help!!!

Thank you.
Answer summary
The user is facing difficulties with their landlord in Bangkok regarding the filing of TM.30 forms required for immigration. The landlord refuses to provide necessary documents such as ID and house book, leading the user to contemplate self-filing at Immigration with alternative documentation. Comments suggest that self-filing may be an option and that the landlord's refusal is likely due to tax evasion concerns. Advice emphasizes keeping the filing process simple and relying on the rental contract, along with a filled TM.30 form and personal documentation.
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Tod *********
Tod *********
okay, you can SELF FILE a TM30 in bangkok with just your lease, your passport and a filled out TM30 form.

Do not put your land lord's name anywhere on the TM 30 form. you are reporting yourself. Your name goes on the front page, then your address, then your address AGAIN, and then your personal information on the second page (the chart).

You sign both pages.
Krishn *********
Krishn *********
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Nina *********
Nina *********
I had read in another post that the contract alone didnt work, but it could be just that one location. Good luck! If u need to move out, make sure u get all ur deposit back
Dominic *****
Dominic *****
OP is in Bangkok.
@Tod ********
has posted that CW allows self-filing of TM30 without landlord's documents.
Ewuraa *******
Ewuraa *******
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@Nina ********
ohk... thank you.

I'll go and try and see what happens.
Marcel *******
Marcel *******
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James ********
James ********
I think Bobby Howard has given you good advice. Do not create a problem at Thai Immigration by telling them of your problem with the landlord owner. Keep it simple and smile while doing as Bobby has said.

Good Luck...you should be OK...
Ewuraa *******
Ewuraa *******
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@James *******
ok.... I'll do that... Thank you 😊
Bobby ********
Bobby ********
If you've got a lease, you don't need the house book or the ID of the owner/landlord. Fill in the TM30, take the lease, your passport (and copy), your TM6 (and copy) and it'll be sweet. I agree with
@Donna *******
, many landlords are shying away from this because they don't declare the income, but that's not your problem
Ewuraa *******
Ewuraa *******
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@Bobby *******
Ok thank you.... I'll do that tomorrow and see what happens.
Donna ********
Donna ********
The reason he will not fill it in is because he is not declaring the rent for tax reasons. This is why a lot of them don’t want to do the TM30.

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