How do I self-file a TM30 in Bangkok without documentation from my landlord?

Jul 13, 2019
5 years ago
Tod *********
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REPOST: Self File TM-30 BANGKOK ONLY.

This is the way you need to fill out the TM30 form if you are filing with NO documentation from your land lord

Your name goes at the top of the form, your address goes under it, then your address AGAIN as the address where the foreigner lives.

In the blank area at the bottom left hand side of the piece that they will tear off and give back to you write your address again.

On the second page (the table) put all your information.

You sign BOTH forms on the signature lines. Print the forms correctly. the first page is portrait orientation and second page is landscape orientation :O

Make copies of;

-lease

-data page of your passport

-visa (if you have one)

-extension (if you have one)

-entry stamp

-TM6 departure card

sign the copies of your passport stuff.

This is a way to file a TM30 in BANGKOK without any information from your land lord at all. <- (meaning you don't need their i/d, their house book listing, a power of attorney form with the 10 baht in tax stamps).

AFAIK: this ONLY works in Bangkok but I can say with 100% accuracy that it does work (y)

EDITED: to make some small changes to how you fill out the form so you have to spend the least time in front of the officers as you can ;)
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This post provides a detailed method for self-filing the TM30 form in Bangkok without any documentation from your landlord. It describes how to fill out the form, what copies of documents to include, and clarifies that this method is specific to Bangkok. Comments highlight concerns about time limits, fines for late filings, and suggestions for individuals who might be staying in rentals without a landlord's involvement. Additionally, the post has sparked a discussion on the experiences of others and the related procedures for TM30 filing.
Nymph ******
May I know where I can get a softcopy of this document? Or I do I just show in CW to get a copy of this form?
Nymph ******
@Tod ********
Thank you!
Tod *********
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it is listed in the Files section of the group AND you can down load it from the immigration website here;

It's the 12th one down on this link;

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Thomas *********
TM30 (address) . I do not have to fill out the address of my home country?
Benjamin ******
No, you don't. You fill out the address of where you live
MU ******
October 2019 Update; Today I did my TM30 with this method and it’s still okay. I arrived at CW around 13:15 and left around 14:00

But they didn’t fine me for being late reporting myself. I was late for 2 months. I don’t know if the rule has changed or the trainee girl just liked me 😂
Jon **************
Hi Tod - will I have to do two forms- one for me and one for my Filipina wife? All advice is appreciated, thanks 🙏
Jon **************
Thanks 🙏
Tod *********
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NO, just one form, look at the last form it is a TABLE and you can list a whole bunch of people on it.
Robert *******
yes, it counts for every single foreigner,
Jason ***********
Tod Daniels you are a star! I just got told a couple of days ago from a (well connected) agent that I have to supply all the Landlord paperwork for my new place I'm moving into, which will be a real pain. This alternative saves me tonnes of hassle.
Andrew *********
@Tod ********
Thanks, I've been waiting for my landlord to return from the US, and I can proceed without the authority. I am in Bangkok and I'll pick up the form on Tuesday. You have just relieved some stress. 🙏
Tod *********
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as long as you fill out the TM30 form exactly as I show in the examples (basically you at your address, saying there's a foreigner at your address that is you :O ) and your lease with your name and address on it you'll be fine self-filing.
Justin *********
Does anyone have this for Chiang Mai or know what may be different for self filing?
Tod *********
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The chiang mai immigration office by the airport has the TM30 section open 7 days a week. Stop out and ask them
Andy *******
Done date as above thx
@Tod ********
and finished at 8:50am as been here since 5.30am. Officer confirmed we need to do TM30 on our return to our BKK address for any trip abroad and/or within Thailand. Best to register with landlord and get the log ins. Now doing 90 days (ask for a higher queue if you so early like I was) notification as was late this time (usually do it by post) 😉
Andy *******
@Paul *******
not sure what you mean. Actually two different transactions, but with similar goals perhaps ;-)
Paul ********
@Andy ******
Guess this means that they are using TM30 as 90 days as some reported. It's a bloody duplication of effort.
Andy *******
thx a bunch
@Tod ********
will try as usually get stuck with taxi around MoChit 😜 good idea to try something new
Tod *********
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Glad it worked out (y) remember you can take bus 166 from the side of that building right back to victory monument on the freeway for 22 baht and catch the sky train from there ;)
Tod *********
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and somewhat on the topic of self-filing :O This is the address that people in BANGKOK can mail in TM30 forms. (Keep in mind there is about a 4 week lag time before you get your receipt back)

You fill out a TM30, include your support documents, along with copies of the data page of your passport, your visa/extension, your most recent entry stamp, your TM6 card and a self addressed stamped envelope.

Send it to this address; Just cut and paste the thai into something and print it out as the address label it's easier

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Tod *********
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and here's a image if that works better
Rene ********
Hello
@Tod ********
. I'm planning on doing the "self-file" in Bangkok. My Thai husband and I share an apartment in Bangkok. I have a copy of the lease, but my name is not on it - only my husband's name is on the lease. Do you think this will be ok? Will they require a lease with my name on it? Thank you.
Rene ********
@Tod ********
Thank you!!
Tod *********
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I had a couple who weren't married self file with just one of the people on the lease so you shouldn't have a problem BUT you could take a copy of the marriage certificate (just in case)
Richard *****************
Can you fill in the TM30 form online or do you have to visit the immigration?
Henry *********
@Tod ********
I sent in a signed copy of my landlord's ID and housebook, with the lease.
Tod *********
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@Henry ********
did you mail it in with only your lease as proof of documentation when you did it OR did you have your land lords id and house book too?
Henry *********
@Richard ****************
it can be mailed in too.
Tod *********
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This post is ONLY for self-filing in Bangkok, and for everything else about a TM30 you go here

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Tod *********
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You have to register to apply to USE the TM30 online system with documents from your property owner,
Henry *********
Tod Daniels The TM30 for me and my family is on file - I submitted it by mail, and got the receipt back 3 weeks later. Now my wife and son are due back from Laos next week, so presumably I need to re-submit it again for them. Do I have to mail in a new TM30 form, signed by my Landlord, with just my wife's and son's new arrival details on the schedule; or can I just cross out the original details on the schedule and fill in the new ones, and re-submit that? In the case of the latter, my original arrival details (which haven't changed) will still be on the same schedule as my wife's and son's? At the moment I have one TM30 receipt for all 3 of us. Can the schedule of "aliens" attached to it be updated, without the TM30 having to be completed again (I can send a copy of the original TM30 application)?

In 3 weeks, we will all go away again. So, following the letter of the law, I will have to submit new arrival details when we get back, this time for all 3 of us, when we get back. I will, again submit by mail. As it seems to take around 3 weeks for a mail-in TM30 to be processed, it's likely the one I submitted for my wife and son will still be being processed when they get the new one!
Tod *********
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Henry *********
@Tod ********
Thanks. So a completely new TM30 form and schedule; not just an updated schedule with a copy of the original TM30 form?
Tod *********
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by law you need to do it every time. :/ I don't have the answer for you about the lag in mailed in TM30's sorry :(
Bing *******
Is there a company or agent who can do this in Bangkok?
Bing *******
@Tod ********
thanks, ever reliable.
Tod *********
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Nope, not that i know of. It's a go do it yourself sort of thing :/

There might be some law firms etc that do it but they'd probably charge an arm and a leg in service fees.
Amornrat **********
CW, for western passport at CW only.
Geoffrey ********
When completing this form for an address confirmation letter (not address registration) The 'Date, month and year' at the bottom, is the date of the rental agreement/arrival, the date of the previous TM30 receipt, or the current date? 🤔
Tod *********
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Geoffrey Morris that is the certificate of residence application you fill out up here in Bangkok too.

I thought they only needed that your passport copies (extension entry stamp TM6, data page) and a TM30 receipt along wiht that form to issue you the certificate. :/
Geoffrey ********
@Tod ********
This was the old form for the Residence Certificate. Phuket immigration don't accept it, anymore. Only ask for a TM30. 😉
Geoffrey ********
@Tod ********
The volunteers/officers at Phuket immigration, ask for a TM30, one photo and a copy of the passport. If you don't know, I'll have to return and ask what date they want putting on the bottom. Thanks anyway.
Tod *********
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@Geoffrey *******
you don't use this TM30 form for that. :/

AND sadly it is NOT thai VISA related.

Go to the immigration office and apply for a certificate of residence.
Tod *********
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@Geoffrey *******
, you want a certificate of residence <- which has nothing to do with your status here, it's the form immigration gives you to prove you hold an address here for a drivers license or buying a vehicle etc.
Geoffrey ********
@Tod ********
I'm not resident status. I just need an address confirmation letter to renew my driving licences, next month
Tod *********
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@Geoffrey *******
, what are you trying to get? A certificate of residence? OR what?
Geoffrey ********
@Tod ********
I haven't completed a TM30 for 4 years and the receipt for the last one in my passport is dated 2015. I only want an address confirmation letter - not re-register my current address, which has never changed (I never leave Thailand). Still confused!
Tod *********
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i just have people put the date they're applying for the TM30
Andre ***********
Is it acceptable to post (enclosing self-addressed stamped envelope) as is with 90 days notification?
Tod *********
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This is a topic ONLY about self filing in person, you need to contact the immigration office and see if you can post a TM30 using this method.
Marcel *******
Do someone know there is an officer at Chengwattaba who can help step up the Online registration?

I'm doing it a month through before but until now I don't get my login..
Ekaterina ************
@Marcel ******
it is quicker when you tell them you have t he registration done, i had a printed out form with me from the webpage, got my passwords in 1 hour
Matt *******
I think if you or your landlord go in there you can get them to process your application on the spot and they'll give you the username/password.
Tod *********
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you can print the pending status screen when you look up your application and go out to Section B at Chaengwattana.

OR

have a thai speaking person call the number at the bottom of the website where you registered
Marcel *******
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Lesley **********
Many thanks! Not sure why I was then told last week by IO at Chaeng Wattana that this was not possible? It’s all still quite confusing but will give it a try or would like to hear of others that were successful with this approach.
Mallari *******************
Excellent. Thanks Tod
Tod *********
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Okay, this is NOT the general TM30 question topic that is open and you can ask various and sundry questions on. This is a topic ONLY to tell people IN bangkok how to file a TM30 on their own with their lease and passport.

The TM30 topic that is open for questions of all sorts is here

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Tod *********
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Come on now people;

This post clearly says for BANGKOK ONLY.

I have no idea what your immigration office requires for you to file a TM30. :/

Check with the immigration office you use for the exact requirements.

This is for Bangkokians to file a TM30 without their landlord being involved at all.
Bryan **********
@Tod ********
this method works in Korat also. I have done it this way before, but I didn't have to complete the table just the form
Coady *******
I am staying in the apartment of a Thai girl in Bangkok on a tourist visa,I have given the apartment owner a copy of my passport and they said they would take care of it, since they are used to it having alot of Burmese people staying there. Do you think I should go to immigration to make sure things are sorted out ?
Coady *******
Thank you very much
@Tod ********
, your help is always appreciated
Tod *********
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AFAIK burmese do NOT go to Chaengwattana, they go to one of the other 4 immigration offices (Soi Suan Plu, Big C Lad Prao, Big C Ratburana, or Big C by Don Mueang).
Tod *********
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You can ask them for the receipt of them having filed the TM30 in person OR get the screen shot print out of them having done it online.
Tod *********
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Keep in mind IF you file a TM30 later than 24 hours after getting back to your main address or coming back into the country you WILL get fined 800 baht (which is half the 1600baht fine they usually charge)
Tod *********
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@Phuc *******
nope, IF you file on the very next day the immigration office is open you're ok
Phuc ********
Hi Tod. I arrived on saturday, when the immigration bureau was closed. Monday is also a holiday (Aug 12). Would i be fined if i file the TM30 on tuesday?
Ekaterina ************
@Tod ********
update from Pattaya immigration office from my friends they were made to pay the full fine
Tod *********
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@Matt ******
, when you exactly need to file a TM30 is between you and the immigration office. I'm telling you HOW to file one without your land lord being involved.
Matt *******
Are Bangkok enforcing it if you travel somewhere else in Thailand then? What if you happen to "forget" your passport when checking in at a hotel, they would have no way of knowing you'd left the province right?
Tee ******
@Tod ********
Thank you for this helpful info❤️
Martin ********
Hi great information. Is there a time limit on when this must be done by again. And can it be posted/mail and to where. Or has to be done in person at Immigration, TYIA
Tod *********
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@Joseph ********
you need to understand that it is a THREE step process to even BEGIN to use the online TM30 program for anyone.

-They register to USE the system, by filling out the registration page and submitting the documents for the property they are register

-They get a confirmation email that they answer

-They get a user name and temporary password set to them

-They log into the system, change their password and AFTER ALL THAT they can start registering foreigners with the program.

IF your land lord has not gotten a username or a temporary password sent back to them they (or you) need to go file a TM30 in person or by post.
Joseph *********
So will I receive a paper for my passport or is it unnecessary?
Robert *******
@Joseph ********
There is no response at all. The land lord make the registration in the datebase and that is it.
Joseph *********
What is the average time to receive response from immigration after landlord notifies online? It has been over a month and no response.
Tod *********
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You are supposed to do it within 24 hours of taking up residence or getting back in from out of the country. SO if you're doing it later than that you're going to get the 800baht fine.
Tod *********
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AFAIK it only works in person :/
Dylan ********
Excellent post. I have just had to find a new place to live after landlord decided to kick me out after requesting he notify immigration I was staying here. Wil just do it myself now. :)
Tod *********
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Hands down (at least in Bangkok ;) ) this is the easiest and most trouble free way to do it.

You don't even have to TELL your landlord anything when you do it this way.. They aren't involved at all.
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