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What are the requirements for applying for a Non-O visa in Thailand while on a family extension?
Hi everyone
I wish to apply for non-O in Thailand, currently on 60 day visit family extension. I have been informed 40,000 baht monthly income, how many months statement ? and does it need to show deposit from overseas ? I have statement showing this amounts deposited in my account.
I wish to apply for non-O in Thailand, currently on 60 day visit family extension. I have been informed 40,000 baht monthly income, how many months statement ? and does it need to show deposit from overseas ? I have statement showing this amounts deposited in my account.
Answer summary
The conversation revolves around the requirements for applying for a Non-O visa in Thailand while currently on a 60-day family visit extension. Key points discussed include the necessity to show proof of regular monthly income (at least 40,000 baht) transferred from overseas into a Thai bank account, typically for a minimum of 3 months, with some immigration offices potentially requiring 6 months of transfer history. Essential documentation includes a bank statement showing foreign deposits, marriage certificates (if applicable), and possibly additional items such as insurance confirmation and pictures with family. Participants also highlight issues surrounding different immigration offices' requirements and suggest visiting the local immigration office for clarifications. Those in similar situations share their experiences and caution against making interbank transfers within Thailand, emphasizing the need for clear proof of foreign origin of funds.
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Mongkon ***********
To avoid complications, every time funds are remitted to your bank account in Thailand, demand proof document from the bank ( TT3, I think) or, less preferred, the entry printed in your account book. Retain these documents as evidence of funds coming in. Very handy when you are asked to show proof. You need these papers when sending funds back out: one baht in, one baht out. No more than that. Bank of Thailand regulations. Evidence valid for 10 years. Applicable to all banks. Staff are disinclined to do the paper work. Insist on it for your own good.
Allan ************
Wow this is getting dafter by the day, I put my money into my wife’s account, it’s used to pay all bills etc, what’s left goes into my account, not a direct transfer from UK, So having over 400,000 in my account counts for nothing.
Geoff ********
18 years ago I transferred 800,000 baht to Thailand from Australia so I could get Non O-A visa for retirement. During my time in LOS I have bought and sold four houses, all at significant losses. How can I now prove that the funds in my account are from outside this country ? I want to change my visa from Non O-A to Non O. In order to avoid the huge insurance premiums for a 77 year old single man.
Joe ***********
@Geoff *******
It is wiser to post your own topicTod *********
@Geoff *******
here's a thought, seeing as your question has NOTHING (as in zero) in common with the question the O/P asked in this thread how about making your own post so people can address your questions?Stefan ************
@Geoff *******
oh sorry I misunderstand. If you are single and don't have a Thai wife or Thai child to take care of, I am afraid the Non OA might be the only way for you. But I might be wrong. You can ask an expert about it. Stefan ************
@Geoff *******
the requirements for me were 400k for 3 months in the bank, marriage certificate and a few other documents. It should be easy for you. Geoff ********
@Stefan ***********
sorry. But your response does not address my comments. Tod *********
I see a trip to the immigration office where you live in you and your thai wifes near future
@Da***
, because that is the ONLY way you're going to find out A - can your immigration office issue an in country 90 day Non-O visa (because not all do) AND B - how many months of incoming overseas transfers they require for the initial 90 day Non-O 
David ********
OP@Tod ********
Thanks for your quick response, I guess be patient and hopefully these borders will open up before 31 July OR wait if the government will announce anything for us amnesty holders.David ********
OPThanks
@Tod ********
after receiving you response, valuable advice, seems that my only option is to get Non-O outside of Thailand, in my case. I have posted a new thread regarding obtaining the Visa from the Consulate in Cambodia. Not too sure if anyone can share and information regarding taking this path.Tod *********
@David *******
that is NOT a user friendly consulate for ANY visa let alone a Non-O Based on marriage. You should wait for this country to open up and the nearby ones to also open and then go to Savannakhet Lao or HCMC Vietnam. Those were the easiest consulates to get year-long, multi-entry Non-O visas based on marriage. Tod *********
Fred Mee and what would the REASON you would apply for that visa for be? We are talking about a non-O visa based on marriage to a thai, if you're not married to a thai you don't qualify for the visa
Tod *********
as far as those deposits into your thai bank account (which has to be an account in your name only) you HAVE to show that those came from abroad (they can't be domestic transfers) so make sure how ever you're moving the money that in your bank book it shows they are foreign origin transfers
Tod *********
IF you are on a 60 day visit thai family extension you SHOULD be able to apply for the 90 day Non-O visa by showing a minimum of 40K baht transferred into a thai bank account in your name only from overseas for a minimum of 3 months (some offices want 6 months of transfer history) there really is NO rule written about it
Keep in mind to apply for the in country Non-O you can't do it from amnesty AND you need so many days left on your current 60 day visit thai family extension to do it. (Bangkok requires 15 days, Chiang Mai requires 21 days) because the application goes under consideration for a period of time before you go back and get the Non-O visa and a new 90 day stamp inked in and you need to cover that time with your current stamp.
Keep in mind to apply for the in country Non-O you can't do it from amnesty AND you need so many days left on your current 60 day visit thai family extension to do it. (Bangkok requires 15 days, Chiang Mai requires 21 days) because the application goes under consideration for a period of time before you go back and get the Non-O visa and a new 90 day stamp inked in and you need to cover that time with your current stamp.
Canice ******
@Tod ********
I’m from Singapore. If I have a payslip 40k month into Singapore banks instead of thai bank and have letter from embassy to show that is real. Is it possible to do the extension under 40k per month proof ? 
Daniel ***********
@Tod ********
I also got advice from Tod Daniels and he is 100% correct. Stefan ************
Mogens Nygaard how I can be Besserwisser if I had experienced it myself?
Sammy *******
@Stefan ***********
perhaps your memory is mistaken or you're off your meds; we can't explain your inaccurate statements other than to reiterate that Todd's advice is accurate-- friends and I have done it ourselves and know it to be accurate. Sammy *******
Stefan Wellhoefer report way--if that helps you explain your misleading information.
Aminul *******
@Stefan ***********
Everytime I read your comments here, I wanted to tear my hairs out. I don't know how @Tod ********
can keep replying to your comments so calmly. Like the others here, I would like to reiterate that Tod is 100% correct.Stefan ************
@Sammy ******
whatever. I have done it also and I'm not stupid. Keep your insulting comments for yourself before I report you to the admin of the group. Stefan ************
Good luck to you all...
Stefan ************
Mogens Nygaard I live in Chonburi I only can tell you what I need to show. And I am not wrong. It is a fact.
Tod *********
@Stefan ***********
You can get a 90 day Non-O visa based on marriage or retirement from the immigration office at Jomtien as long as you meet the requirements AND have at least 15 days left on your current 30 day visa exempt or 60 day tourist visa entry OR from a 30 day extension or 60 day visit thai family extension from one of those two entries. Stefan ************
@Tod ********
cannot. Credit of 40k per month alone is not enough. They need to have a confirmation from embassy on where the money comes from. And for this way, 3 months 40k is not enough. You need 12 month. 3 month is for 400k deposit in Thai Bank.Tod *********
@Stefan ***********
that is not correct, we are NOT talking about applying for a year extension we are talking about applying for the initial 90 day Non-O visa ONLY. Stefan ************
@Tod ********
and married visa and retirement is two different things. And has different requirements on documents AND money deposits. Stefan ************
@Tod ********
the question is: HAVE YOU DONE IT YOURSELF? FYI I have. Tod *********
@Stefan ***********
It totally CAN work out like I outlined IF you have the required time on the correct stamp to wait for the under consideration period AND you meet the proof of funds requirements (which I admit can vary office by office) I am reasonably sure that Chaengwattana requires a minimum of 3 months (but it could be 6 months) of 40K baht being transferred into your thai bank account to issue the 90day Non-O.I do know with 100% certainty you CAN get 90 day Non-O visas inside the country based on marriage to a thai or being over 50 (retirement) :)
Stefan ************
@Tod ********
I have my shit together. Its just not that simple as you have described it here and I thought this groups purpose was to help each other to make things easier in Amazing Thailand. Stefan ************
@Sammy ******
this is Amazing Thailand. Sammy *******
@Stefan ***********
sorry, not sure what experience you've had or maybe someone "got away" one time with doing it wrong, but Todd is 100% correct from my own experience at the Chiang mai office and also from friends and fellow expats and friends doing exactly the same thing. your misinformation does damage to those accurately trying to obtain visas.Tod *********
@Stefan ***********
nope, sorry I'm not a hold your hand push paper for you kinda guy, I'm a tell you what you need to do and you get your shit together and do it yourself kind of person :P Stefan ************
@Tod ********
good for you. Maybe next time I ask you to do for me, I can save a lot of hassle. Tod *********
@Stefan ***********
I have stood by and watched many MANY people go thru the process out at Chaengwattana in Section C-1 the section that issues in country Non-Immigrant Type visasStefan ************
@Tod ********
nevermind you are so right... must have done it yourself for so many times. Unlike me, i only know it from other people telling.😄😄😄Tod *********
@Ste***
, that is not required.. you only need to show that it's international transfers comin' in from out of the country into your thai bank account in your name Stefan ************
@Tod ********
still need the letter from embassy confirming the source of your income. Unless you have a WP and can show Thai income tax document. Tod *********
@Stefan ***********
It works at the immigration offices in bangkok, Chiang Mai, Phuket, Surat Thani, Hua Hin, Korat, and other immmigration offices. I think you don't know your ass from your elbow about what you're talking about :P
Stefan ************
@Tod ********
you are a dreamer. Reality is different. Anyway, give your good advises to others they will just waste their time at IO and arguing with the officials. Tod *********
@Stefan ***********
, there are two ways to show proof of funds for a Non-O visa, ALL banked money (400K baht in a thai bank account in your name only transferred in from abroad) OR 40K baht a month transferred in to a thai bank account in your name only for a period of months (usually 3 but sometimes 6) This is ONLY for getting the in country 90 day Non-O visa based on marriage NOT the yearly extension.
Stefan ************
@Tod ********
go to any immigration office, they will tell you.Tod *********
@Stefan ***********
you are mistaken, and 90 day Non-O visas based on retirement or marriage can be issued IN country as long as you have the required days left on your current stamp to apply Stefan ************
@Tod ********
and still you need to show 400k as I mentioned before, even for the initial one. Been there, done it.Tod *********
@Stefan ***********
You are also incorrect about the banked money method, there is NO seasoning required when using 400K baht to get the in country 90 day non-O visa issued, The requirement is that you show the money came from abroad ONLY. Stefan ************
@Tod ********
this visa can only be applied outside of Thailand. Stefan ************
I assume you are talking about a spouse visa. You need letter from your embassy confirming the source of funds. Or you can deposit THB 400k in a thai bank account but you need to show this for the past 3 months plus a letter from the bank. And that is not all. It requires a lot more documents such as house book, rental contracts, pictures with you and wife/kid inside and outside the house and maybe more.... if you are over 50, you can apply non OA which requires 800k.
Joe ***********
Stefan Wellhoefer - It is a Wife Visa. Not a Spouse Visa. Women marrying Thai men do not have to go through any of this income proof crap. Women marrying Thai men are Exempt. Or did you not know?
Brett *******
You can't apply for a Non O-A in Thailand. Has to done in your home country.
Stefan ************
@Brett ******
when I applied my initial 90 days mutliple, I went to Lao and had to show the 400k for 3 months in my bank account together with a letter from bank.... but the experts here said 40k credit per month is enough. Sorry I just tell what I needed to show, dont want people to get the wrong info.
Steven ***************
Stefan Wellhoefer . Its 2 months prior to application and then 1 more month while it's under consideration for 30 days. Eg it doesn't need to be in for 3 months prior to applying, just 2 months.
Stefan ************
@Brett ******
that's what I'm trying to tell those experts here but....Tony ********
Unfortunately I am in the same position and so the only way to get a Non O is through “an agent”. We cannot do the mandatory out/in border run to get a 15 day tourist visa first. 800k Baht for 2 months in a bank and letter of confirmation from the bank. You would need 6 months of monthly payments to yr Thai bank account. Also insurance confirmation required according to my local immigration official + the normal residence, passport papers etc.
Christov ********
@Tony *******
can get a 3 month visa for 20k think it’s the volunteer visa. Easy enough - expensive but saves all the fuss coming in a few weeks Tony ********
@Christov *******
thanks but already sorted at a lower price.Christov ********
nice! Better than me then haha. I’m happy I think they said I can turn it into a year but I dunno. At least we both sorted and we can sit back and watch the fun lol
Bim *******
@Tony *******
what agent you use and what was the cost Tony ********
@Bim ******
pm meTony ********
@Dan *********
nothing received 
Daniel **********
@Tony *******
check your PM'sTony ********
You obviously know everything
Tod *********
@Tony *******
I think you are mistaken a bit. It sounds like you're currently on "amnesty"<- meaning what ever entry stamp you had expired and you're allowed to be here until the 31st of July. IF that's the case you can't apply for an in country Non-O visa because you need "hard stamp" days left on your passport not fairly tale amnesty days :O.
The O/P has a 60 day visit thai family extension (which anyone who is married to a thai can apply for and which does not require proof of funds AND which you can apply for from amnesty too).
With that extension they then have the required "hard stamp" days left on their passport to apply for the in country 90 day Non-O visa
Tod *********
that is not correct :(
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